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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 27, 2019 16:44:46 GMT -5
Since 2000 Patriots have had more than two QBs eleven times. The two QB thing is a very recent trend 6 out of the last 8 years. Given Brady's age three QBs make sense unless you get a guy who can beat out Hoyer. They just need to find the right guy and that isn't easy. Yet if they like a guy they will draft him, even if he's raw and it means carrying three QBs.
The pass interference challenge rule will be interesting. There could be a ton of red flags thrown and it could really change the game.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 27, 2019 17:14:19 GMT -5
May as well be able to challenge holding non-calls while they're at it.
I predict this will ruin the playoffs by changing the outcomes of games since there is pass interference on every single play and 100% of reviews will have to be called interference. If they don't, then it's just a meaningless, undefined penalty. It's like calling interference penalties in hockey every time there is any contact at all away from the puck or every touch foul in the NBA. Hooray for powerplay contests in hockey, free throw contests in basketball, and jump ball contests which 100% go to the offense in the NFL.
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Post by philarhody on Mar 27, 2019 19:23:35 GMT -5
Did that happen? I can't think of anything worse, considering there is pass interference on every single play. Yes unfortunately it did - very vague too and there will be booth reviews in last 2 minutes like everything else.... that cooks drop in the end zone likely would have been reviewed and a PI called because Gilmore grabbed his hand Awful news. I’m not sure if this helps or hurts NE considering this is going to hugely benefit receiving corps and hurt defensive back play. On one hand, the Patriots have the best defensive backfield in the league, so maybe they can offset the change in rules. On the other hand, they definitely don’t have the weaponry to take advantage of these rules. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 28, 2019 8:56:08 GMT -5
Bad news UMASS your boy Boykins is set for a top 30 visit with the Pats.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 28, 2019 10:44:46 GMT -5
Bad news UMASS your boy Boykins is set for a top 30 visit with the Pats. Noooooooooo! Well that sucks unless he's one of the guys like every three years they take. Yet it's 100% now we won't get Grier and Boykins. |
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Post by aboynamedkimandrew on Mar 28, 2019 10:56:47 GMT -5
Imagine the uproar the first time a PI call is reviewed and the receiver was grabbed at the line or before the ball was in the air but there was no PI. They will have to overrule the PI but can’t, by rule, call the earlier holding penalty on the same pattern.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 28, 2019 12:47:11 GMT -5
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Post by beasleyrockah on Mar 28, 2019 13:22:38 GMT -5
It figures the NFL makes this pass interference replay change right after Gronk retires. I doubt there's a player in NFL history who was held or interfered with more often than Gronk on a per route basis.
I wonder if this interference replay will impact wide receivers more than we think, there's a lot of offensive interference that doesn't get called in real time but is clear on tape, so a frame by frame review might negate some offensive big plays too. It'll definitely impact defenders more, but wide receivers will have to adjust too (I hope).
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Post by philarhody on Mar 28, 2019 13:37:46 GMT -5
It figures the NFL makes this pass interference replay change right after Gronk retires. I doubt there's a player in NFL history who was held or interfered with more often than Gronk on a per route basis. Not to mention the numerous times Gronk was called for pi for literally running routes |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 28, 2019 13:54:40 GMT -5
What the burden of proof? Like are they really going to overturn a call if in slow motion the defender was there 1\10 of a second early?
What about the tons of times where the defender and offensive guy are both pushing and grabbing? I would hate to be a ref trying to judge a ton of those per game in slow motion
In general I love more replay options, get it right. Yet this might go too far, because of one horrible missed call. It's like allowing Basketball coaches to challenge fouls and non fouls, that just goes too far.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 28, 2019 13:57:40 GMT -5
From the draft point of view, it kinda increases the value of the bigger yet slower WRs no? The guys that can go up and get the ball because now you can challenge Everytime the defender plays them physical.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 28, 2019 13:58:46 GMT -5
What the burden of proof? Like are they really going to overturn a call if in slow motion the defender was there 1\10 of a second early? What about the tons of times where the defender and offensive guy are both pushing and grabbing? I would hate to be a ref trying to judge a ton of those per game in slow motion In general I love more replay options, get it right. Yet this might go too far, because of one horrible missed call. It's like allowing Basketball coaches to challenge fouls and non fouls, that just goes too far. They said that Gilmore grab of cooks in the SB on the play before the pick would have been reviewed and called PI. So there’s that kind of crap. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 28, 2019 13:59:34 GMT -5
From the draft point of view, it kinda increases the value of the bigger yet slower WRs no? The guys that can go up and get the ball because now you can challenge Everytime the defender plays them physical. It could but I believe this rule is on a one year trial so not sure you’ll see teams putting stock in that. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 28, 2019 14:44:26 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 28, 2019 14:50:03 GMT -5
What the burden of proof? Like are they really going to overturn a call if in slow motion the defender was there 1\10 of a second early? What about the tons of times where the defender and offensive guy are both pushing and grabbing? I would hate to be a ref trying to judge a ton of those per game in slow motion In general I love more replay options, get it right. Yet this might go too far, because of one horrible missed call. It's like allowing Basketball coaches to challenge fouls and non fouls, that just goes too far. They said that Gilmore grab of cooks in the SB on the play before the pick would have been reviewed and called PI. So there’s that kind of crap. And if a DB isn't doing that, then he's not doing his job. There are literally no DBs in the NFL who don't commit PI on just about every play if you watch the play in slow motion replay. They have not thought this through at all and it's going to be the worst backlash out of all dumb rule changes they've made. |
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Post by texs31 on Mar 28, 2019 15:37:20 GMT -5
Well that was a short tenure. Schiano stepping down.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 28, 2019 15:40:31 GMT -5
God I hate the idea of taking Butler. That guy drops so many passes, I can’t get over it. 3rd round I would be fine but I can’t imagine a scenario I’m ok with it in the first or second. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 28, 2019 15:41:53 GMT -5
Well that was a short tenure. Schiano stepping down. Might be a blessing |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 28, 2019 21:18:53 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 29, 2019 6:39:36 GMT -5
It’s so hard to believe reports like this these days. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 29, 2019 7:36:40 GMT -5
Yea it is, but I kinda buy it. If they like him a late second makes sense. They won't get a first unless some team is stupid.
We need a QB for the future. If not Rosen, then someone. I wonder if we aren't thinking big enough in the draft. If there is a guy you like we really need to get him so he has time to learn from Brady.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 29, 2019 7:59:19 GMT -5
Yea it is, but I kinda buy it. If they like him a late second makes sense. They won't get a first unless some team is stupid. We need a QB for the future. If not Rosen, then someone. I wonder if we aren't thinking big enough in the draft. If there is a guy you like we really need to get him so he has time to learn from Brady. This team also has some major holes to fill for both this year and likely the following so it’s hard to give up a ton for the future QB unless you’re in love with a guy |
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Post by texs31 on Mar 29, 2019 8:00:01 GMT -5
He would make sense given that he could supplant Hoyer as the backup while also being our best option for the future. They'll have 3 more years plus an option to determine if he's the future.
Had heard early in the rumors that a 3rd might be his current value which seems extremely low (and I thought cars depreciated quickly). Don't like the idea of a 1st but a 2nd (especially when they have 2) could be appropriate.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 29, 2019 10:18:06 GMT -5
Yea it is, but I kinda buy it. If they like him a late second makes sense. They won't get a first unless some team is stupid. We need a QB for the future. If not Rosen, then someone. I wonder if we aren't thinking big enough in the draft. If there is a guy you like we really need to get him so he has time to learn from Brady. This team also has some major holes to fill for both this year and likely the following so it’s hard to give up a ton for the future QB unless you’re in love with a guy I don't really care how they do it, they have a bunch of options. Yet let's get a guy that has a chance to be something unlike Etling. Bill might love everything about Etling, but I just don't see the talent. Last year you were limited, not many options in the mid rounds. This year there are a ton. You also have Rosen as an option, plus I get the feeling QBs could drop in this draft. Well if you trade up you have to love the guy. I'm not talking crazy trades, they can't get that high. Yet if one of these guys starts dropping and you love him go get him. A guy like Jones. You hear top 10 pick to second round. I wouldn't be afraid to take him in the first if he's your guy. Every year we can pull talent from anywhere in the draft. Yet QB is just different, you can't expect another Brady. So if you find a guy, go get him. I don't care about other needs. While I like a bunch of Guys, Jones and Thorson are my top targets. They did more with less compared to every other QB. Every other top QB has a bunch of weapons that will get drafted in this draft. Not those two guys and yet they still got wins and good stats. Yet if Drew Lock drops I might go big. So many options we better come away with a guy that has starter upside. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 29, 2019 19:15:04 GMT -5
N’Keal Harry in for a visit
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