mobaz
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Post by mobaz on May 21, 2019 11:09:57 GMT -5
Good news (JE11) bad news (Veldheer).
Edelman adding $19M in new money through 2021 ($12m guaranteed); makes you worry a little given his age but he's been so underpaid they actually threw him a solid.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 21, 2019 11:31:42 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on May 21, 2019 14:11:11 GMT -5
Veldheer retiring does suck but if we have health in camp then he may not have made the team.... was probably between him and Karras for the 8th spot. I have to assume the 2 draft picks make the roster and I don’t think they were carrying 9 linemen with all the depth elsewhere and possibly carrying 3 QBs
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Post by texs31 on May 21, 2019 14:22:49 GMT -5
Was leaning towards Cajuste coming up with some sort of injury. Cannon and 2 rookies (basically) makes me a bit nervous
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Post by rjp313jr on May 21, 2019 17:55:00 GMT -5
Was leaning towards Cajuste coming up with some sort of injury. Cannon and 2 rookies (basically) makes me a bit nervous Was definitely a possibility but I’m not too worried about it. This team has a history starting rookie linemen without issue. That being said there could still be a veteran cut Or a guy like Penn is still unsigned. |
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Post by voiceofreason on May 22, 2019 7:50:23 GMT -5
Veldheer retiring does suck but if we have health in camp then he may not have made the team.... was probably between him and Karras for the 8th spot. I have to assume the 2 draft picks make the roster and I don’t think they were carrying 9 linemen with all the depth elsewhere and possibly carrying 3 QBs Not so sure the Pats considered him the 8th guy and a possible camp casualty based on the contract they gave him. He got a decent contract that could have payed him a considerable amount, IMO he was perfect for the Pats. They have to go back to the drawing board and solidify the depth at OT. Running the ball and keeping Brady clean are the priorities for this O. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 22, 2019 11:47:49 GMT -5
It's a big loss, we have never started a rookie LT. Brady is older now and both guys are coming off injury. The injuries being huge, because they might miss time or need time to get 100%.
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Post by beasleyrockah on May 22, 2019 12:07:45 GMT -5
It's a big loss, we have never started a rookie LT. Brady is older now and both guys are coming off injury. The injuries being huge, because they might miss time or need time to get 100%. What about Matt Light? |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 22, 2019 12:08:09 GMT -5
Not saying it’s not a loss but let’s not act like this guy was a shoe in as a starting left tackle... he hasn’t been that great lately, plus injuries. I never thought of him as a starter... it’s the depth especially with Cannon
Brady has had 2 left tackles before last year so 3 total and 1 of them started as a rookie.. Matt Light... He might not have started week 1 but he started the majority of that year so they’ve started a rookie. Beyond that Wynn is not a true rookie.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 22, 2019 19:44:01 GMT -5
It's a big loss, we have never started a rookie LT. Brady is older now and both guys are coming off injury. The injuries being huge, because they might miss time or need time to get 100%. What about Matt Light? Grant Williams started game one, then Light became the starter for most of the year. Starting 12 of the 14 games he played in. |
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Post by voiceofreason on May 23, 2019 9:15:04 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2019 10:49:40 GMT -5
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Post by voiceofreason on May 23, 2019 10:52:32 GMT -5
One thing we can agree with. |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2019 11:02:24 GMT -5
Marijuana is illegal, if a private business wants to make sure their employees aren’t using drugs then they should be able to test. That being said I don’t see the point of it in the NFL. There’s no competitive advantage to be had other than pain management. And the NFL has no leg to stand on from a moral perspective. If there is even a moral perspective on marijuana any more.
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2019 11:29:34 GMT -5
Marijuana is illegal, if a private business wants to make sure their employees aren’t using drugs then they should be able to test. That being said I don’t see the point of it in the NFL. There’s no competitive advantage to be had other than pain management. And the NFL has no leg to stand on from a moral perspective. If there is even a moral perspective on marijuana any more. Well Chris Long said exactly what players do when they have to get clean for testing. They take more painkillers, sleeping pills and alcohol. It's clear what is worse for your health. |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2019 14:55:31 GMT -5
Marijuana is illegal, if a private business wants to make sure their employees aren’t using drugs then they should be able to test. That being said I don’t see the point of it in the NFL. There’s no competitive advantage to be had other than pain management. And the NFL has no leg to stand on from a moral perspective. If there is even a moral perspective on marijuana any more. Well Chris Long said exactly what players do when they have to get clean for testing. They take more painkillers, sleeping pills and alcohol. It's clear what is worse for your health. Agreed. Although, besides the whole addiction thing and going broke and possible over-dosing, painkillers don’t really have negative health consequences the same way alcohol and smoking do |
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2019 15:28:24 GMT -5
Well Chris Long said exactly what players do when they have to get clean for testing. They take more painkillers, sleeping pills and alcohol. It's clear what is worse for your health. Agreed. Although, besides the whole addiction thing and going broke and possible over-dosing, painkillers don’t really have negative health consequences the same way alcohol and smoking do They're bad for your liver and the addiction thing can't really be brushed aside. Cannabis really has no harmful effects unless you start looking at inhaling lighter fluid vapor when lighting a bowl but that is the lighter doing the harm. I had a horrible hockey injury where I dislocated my ankle and broke my leg and had pins and screws put in. I was on painkillers for 3 weeks and my ex had to hide the pills from me because I was so hooked on them in just that much time that I was throwing tantrums about it. And I wasn't even on oxycontins either. I'd bet that most NFL players are battling addiction all the time. |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2019 16:33:12 GMT -5
Agreed. Although, besides the whole addiction thing and going broke and possible over-dosing, painkillers don’t really have negative health consequences the same way alcohol and smoking do They're bad for your liver and the addiction thing can't really be brushed aside. Cannabis really has no harmful effects unless you start looking at inhaling lighter fluid vapor when lighting a bowl but that is the lighter doing the harm. I had a horrible hockey injury where I dislocated my ankle and broke my leg and had pins and screws put in. I was on painkillers for 3 weeks and my ex had to hide the pills from me because I was so hooked on them in just that much time that I was throwing tantrums about it. And I wasn't even on oxycontins either. I'd bet that most NFL players are battling addiction all the time. That was tongue in cheek - not brushing it aside. Addiction and the life ruining aspects of addition speak for themselves. 3 weeks is forever - you can be physically addicted in 5 days. It’s a joke they prescribe them for these minor surgeries. They legit give them some people don’t experience discomfort. |
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Post by voiceofreason on May 23, 2019 20:02:03 GMT -5
They're bad for your liver and the addiction thing can't really be brushed aside. Cannabis really has no harmful effects unless you start looking at inhaling lighter fluid vapor when lighting a bowl but that is the lighter doing the harm. I had a horrible hockey injury where I dislocated my ankle and broke my leg and had pins and screws put in. I was on painkillers for 3 weeks and my ex had to hide the pills from me because I was so hooked on them in just that much time that I was throwing tantrums about it. And I wasn't even on oxycontins either. I'd bet that most NFL players are battling addiction all the time. That was tongue in cheek - not brushing it aside. Addiction and the life ruining aspects of addition speak for themselves. 3 weeks is forever - you can be physically addicted in 5 days. It’s a joke they prescribe them for these minor surgeries. They legit give them some people don’t experience discomfort. I am very happy to see that they are going after Purdue Pharma after the internal messages show they preyed on those who would become addicted. They became billionaires off of people becoming addicted to their drugs. They are no better than the cartels and should be treated the same!! Cannabis is the least harmful thing people can do to get a buzz and should be legal everywhere, just my opinion. |
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Post by jimed14 on May 24, 2019 6:28:42 GMT -5
Pats are unsurprisingly interested in McCoy.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 24, 2019 10:21:30 GMT -5
Pats are unsurprisingly interested in McCoy. Yea but we won’t have the money |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 27, 2019 5:51:13 GMT -5
Ben Watson suspended first 4 games... sucks but could be a blessing. They get an extra roster spot out of the gate and give some extra rest to a 38 year old guy...
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Post by natesp4 on May 27, 2019 8:25:17 GMT -5
Ben Watson suspended first 4 games... sucks but could be a blessing. They get an extra roster spot out of the gate and give some extra rest to a 38 year old guy... Also probably the best apology for getting caught violating the drug policy that I've ever seen. He did have unique circumstances that other players typically don't have, but that doesn't take away from how refreshingly genuine and honest it seemed. |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 27, 2019 18:11:18 GMT -5
Ben Watson suspended first 4 games... sucks but could be a blessing. They get an extra roster spot out of the gate and give some extra rest to a 38 year old guy... Also probably the best apology for getting caught violating the drug policy that I've ever seen. He did have unique circumstances that other players typically don't have, but that doesn't take away from how refreshingly genuine and honest it seemed. Yea i agree - it was legit and honest... it also highlights how dumb it is that players can’t get those treatments under doctors supervision. I don’t care if it could be abused. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 4, 2019 7:02:22 GMT -5
I’ll be watching our offensive line most closely during camps. I believe with any QB, but especially with an old Brady the Oline is the key to the team. Keep him clean he can be healthy and highly effective even as he ages, whenever that happens and it’s key to the run game too. Seems simple, but most teams don’t do it, probably because it’s not sexy and most are fighting for their jobs. Also, no other teams have the wizard Dante. Anyways, I’ve always thought it was a forgone conclusion that Thuney was going to be gone after this year and it’s highly likely he is. However, he’s been an iron man and very good and quietly has gotten better and better. He’s nearing elite status as a pass blocking guard and you’ll notice he graded as the 11th best run blocking guard as well. Although, by the grade, he’s likely closely graded to a lot of other players.  One big thing to watch is his ability to play left tackle. He’s actually got better size 6’5 to play there versus Wynn. I know he’s only there in camp because Wyn and Cajuste were out but it’s a wrinkle. So anyways, I will be watching Wynn (of course), but also Cajuste and Froholdt very closely. Froholdt is the one that interests me the most for not so obvious reasons and that’s Thuney’s replacement. I really like the reports on him and have high hopes he can be that next guy, but if not, won’t shock me to see them spend on Thuney as well s long as they can get him for Mason type money. Here’s a little Shaq Mason porn: www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-the-nfls-top-offensive-linemen-in-run-block-success-percentage-at-each-position |
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