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Post by ryan24 on Aug 17, 2019 10:03:26 GMT -5
What is going on with our rookie OT? My question? LT position wise no NFL experience! Seems like a questionable area? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 17, 2019 11:12:07 GMT -5
What is going on with our rookie OT? My question? LT position wise no NFL experience! Seems like a questionable area? It sure is and that was before Yodny is now in danger of missing the whole year. He's a rookie, but had high upside and added depth. Yet still hasn't been cleared from quad surgery from like six months ago, which seems like a crazy long time. He's not even back for non contact drills yet. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 17, 2019 13:55:13 GMT -5
My question? LT position wise no NFL experience! Seems like a questionable area? It sure is and that was before Yodny is now in danger of missing the whole year. He's a rookie, but had high upside and added depth. Yet still hasn't been cleared from quad surgery from like six months ago, which seems like a crazy long time. He's not even back for non contact drills yet. It could be a roster management thing at this point. where they didn’t think he’d be ready and activating him just screws things up. He’ll likely be on PUP or possibly it’s a red shirt season. Thuney offers them a safety net. Let’s see how Froholdt looks - in a way he’s our tackle depth. Right now they are being smart with Wynn / taking it slow. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 17, 2019 13:56:21 GMT -5
Curious why you included Berrios and not Myers? No particular reason. Don't know much about Meyers. Always had hope for Berrios. Gotcha / looking forward to seeing the team tonight - Brady will play and I’m guessing the first couple series will be against the Titans starting D. |
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 17, 2019 15:42:39 GMT -5
I took pedro's comment to be asking how he got reinstated, not how he'll help. Oh then my answer is that the NFL, rightfully, doesn’t care about recreational drug use. Doesn’t affect the game and suspensions don’t help guys. They just need to stop testing for cannabis. It's not anywhere close to as bad as alcohol but stays in your blood for 30 days, as opposed to alcohol which stays for a handful of hours. They should let everyone out of prison for non violent cannabis convictions as well. But we all know that the people in power almost never do anything that is good for the people they're ruling. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 17, 2019 16:22:44 GMT -5
No particular reason. Don't know much about Meyers. Always had hope for Berrios. Gotcha / looking forward to seeing the team tonight - Brady will play and I’m guessing the first couple series will be against the Titans starting D. Brady will NOT play - hopefully the Titans starters do tho so we can see Meyers against the best. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 17, 2019 16:25:28 GMT -5
Oh then my answer is that the NFL, rightfully, doesn’t care about recreational drug use. Doesn’t affect the game and suspensions don’t help guys. They just need to stop testing for cannabis. It's not anywhere close to as bad as alcohol but stays in your blood for 30 days, as opposed to alcohol which stays for a handful of hours. They should let everyone out of prison for non violent cannabis convictions as well. But we all know that the people in power almost never do anything that is good for the people they're ruling. Cannabis is way better for people who are adults but WAY worse for developing brains than alcohol is. Smoking as an adolescent is really bad; I wish I never did. Not that i have any noticeable issues as a result but it definitely wasn’t good for me and studies are showing how dangerous it is for developing brains. The legal age for cannabis really should be 25 as the brain is still developing into your early 20s... if we are being honest about what it is. But I agree with your points. |
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 17, 2019 18:26:50 GMT -5
They just need to stop testing for cannabis. It's not anywhere close to as bad as alcohol but stays in your blood for 30 days, as opposed to alcohol which stays for a handful of hours. They should let everyone out of prison for non violent cannabis convictions as well. But we all know that the people in power almost never do anything that is good for the people they're ruling. Cannabis is way better for people who are adults but WAY worse for developing brains than alcohol is. Smoking as an adolescent is really bad; I wish I never did. Not that i have any noticeable issues as a result but it definitely wasn’t good for me and studies are showing how dangerous it is for developing brains. The legal age for cannabis really should be 25 as the brain is still developing into your early 20s... if we are being honest about what it is. But I agree with your points. I'll bet every study was funded by big pharma or religious groups. |
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Post by texs31 on Aug 17, 2019 20:01:18 GMT -5
Rivers and Calhoun both down with injuries in the first half.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 17, 2019 21:57:29 GMT -5
Brady put his Brookline home on the market.... it’s starting to seem like this could be his final year. At this point I’m at 30/70 he retires. Would he leave the Patriots for the Giants or Ravens? Those seem to be the only places that make sense. Even then, his supporting casts would be major downgrades and I don’t think leaving helps his legacy. I think winning as many as possible sets him up the best with the TB12 brand and I think staying in New England is the best move for that. The Ravens would also be good but not as good. Correct me if i’m wrong but the Giants O line and defense look like shit to me. |
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Post by marrcus on Aug 18, 2019 3:43:45 GMT -5
I laughed at the line but I think Tom would leave in a heartbeat for big money and a little confidence in a new team's chances.
Stidham looked good again. The PK not so hot?
I don't know if the kid is as good as Garoppolo but right now you have to be pleased.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 18, 2019 6:43:15 GMT -5
Cannabis is way better for people who are adults but WAY worse for developing brains than alcohol is. Smoking as an adolescent is really bad; I wish I never did. Not that i have any noticeable issues as a result but it definitely wasn’t good for me and studies are showing how dangerous it is for developing brains. The legal age for cannabis really should be 25 as the brain is still developing into your early 20s... if we are being honest about what it is. But I agree with your points. I'll bet every study was funded by big pharma or religious groups. I think we should just do what we can to keep kids from smoking weed. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 18, 2019 7:20:46 GMT -5
Watched most of this game and here are my over-reactions:
The good:
Damien Harris looks really good. The running was one thing and really nice, but his hands were incredible. Made a great diving catch at one point. I am really interested to see if Michel is a threat in the passing game this year, if he is, two back sets with Michel and Harris could be interesting.
Winovich - guy is all over the place in a good way.
Meyers - felt like they tried to not play him much then had no choice so they QBs had some options. Or I was just confusing his number with Inman, but either way he was a factor again. Kids just good.
Wynn - was nice to see him get into the game and looked good for anyone let alone a guy who hasn’t played a live snap in a year.
Cowart - showed a little something again. He needs to make the roster or he’s getting claimed by another team.
Williams - had a bunch of plays on the ball. People freaked out after the first week of practice but things seem to have gone well for him since then. He handled Corey Davis pretty well early.
The ok:
Stidham - the final number are great and he made some great throws so you could have him in the Good category but if being honest he almost had 2 pick 6s including one at the goal line. He also had a terrible screen pass to Bolden early on. Happy with the game and where he’s at but the box score doesn’t tell the whole story here.
The bad:
Rivers and Calhoun got injured. Both guys seemed to be battling for a roster spot (I made room for both of them on my most recent projection, but wasn’t easy). The development of these guys had a lot to do with the depth they seem to have. Let’s hope the injuries aren’t serious. Calhoun in particular was really standing out and has the potential to be the next KVN pickup.
Dawson - i want to root for this guy but it’s getting to the point he’s been so bad that I’m finding myself rooting they don’t waste a roster spot on him due to the depth they have.
Obi - early on I thought he had a real chance at a roster spot but I can’t see it now.
Pennel - I was so high on this signing which should have been a sign it wouldn’t work out. He played a ton and didn’t play well. He may not make the team...
Berrios - with Gordon coming back and the roster crunch getting tighter, he needed to do something, I think, and he only got 1 target. That’s not good....
Roster notes:
Harmon played last night when the rest of the starters didn’t. That’s not a good sign. Although he didn’t play much.
Roberts didn’t play last night. Seems to bode well for his roster spot. It makes sense, but I don’t put him in my roster projections. It’s probably a me problem for not having respect for what he brings. His ability in coverage especially on the play action game have greatly improved according to reports I’ve read, but I haven’t wrapped my head around it yet.
Butler didn’t play - i felt he was a bubble player but he seems safe. Add: turns out he has an undisclosed injury..
Wise - played a bunch early on last night. Was it to help knock off rust or is his spot in jeopardy?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 18, 2019 8:20:34 GMT -5
I laughed at the line but I think Tom would leave in a heartbeat for big money and a little confidence in a new team's chances. Stidham looked good again. The PK not so hot? I don't know if the kid is as good as Garoppolo but right now you have to be pleased. Who makes sense other than the Ravens? |
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 18, 2019 12:36:39 GMT -5
I'll bet every study was funded by big pharma or religious groups. I think we should just do what we can to keep kids from smoking weed. Parents job, not the government. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 18, 2019 13:31:55 GMT -5
If you want to run a 3-4 don't Pennel and Shelton basically have to be locks to make the team? The key is having those monsters that can take up space and multiple blockers like Ted Washington and Wilfork did. If no Pennel than who is your second NT?
If we are really now mostly 3-4 Roberts likely is a lock to make the team. He's a perfect 3-4 middle LB and you need extra depth if your playing two guys most of the time. Unless they would use Van Noy as the back up given the depth at OLB. Not easy given the depth at OLB this year.
Didn't watch the game, did they run 3-4 for the whole game again?
I wouldn't judge a rookie QB harshly for almost mistakes, that's what rookies do. Like remember the great Payton Manning and all his picks his rookie year? It's the ability to throw those timing throws where only his guy can get it that's crazy impressive. He looks like he should have been a first round pick.
Meyers was the highest rated undrafted guy we signed, but wow didn't see this coming. I wanted a second WR and we got one without using a draft pick. Impact undrafted WRs happen, but not that often. Maybe it's way too soon to call him that, but he's been impressive.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 18, 2019 17:09:23 GMT -5
I think we should just do what we can to keep kids from smoking weed. Parents job, not the government. So by this logic you don’t believe in age limits? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Driving? Add: which is fine by the way if that’s how you feel - i see an argument . |
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Post by texs31 on Aug 18, 2019 20:06:33 GMT -5
Inman released
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 19, 2019 5:30:48 GMT -5
Guess his agent requested it - not that it wasn’t coming anyways. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 19, 2019 5:51:15 GMT -5
If you want to run a 3-4 don't Pennel and Shelton basically have to be locks to make the team? The key is having those monsters that can take up space and multiple blockers like Ted Washington and Wilfork did. If no Pennel than who is your second NT? If we are really now mostly 3-4 Roberts likely is a lock to make the team. He's a perfect 3-4 middle LB and you need extra depth if your playing two guys most of the time. Unless they would use Van Noy as the back up given the depth at OLB. Not easy given the depth at OLB this year. Didn't watch the game, did they run 3-4 for the whole game again? I wouldn't judge a rookie QB harshly for almost mistakes, that's what rookies do. Like remember the great Payton Manning and all his picks his rookie year? It's the ability to throw those timing throws where only his guy can get it that's crazy impressive. He looks like he should have been a first round pick. Meyers was the highest rated undrafted guy we signed, but wow didn't see this coming. I wanted a second WR and we got one without using a draft pick. Impact undrafted WRs happen, but not that often. Maybe it's way too soon to call him that, but he's been impressive. They did run a “3-4” most of the time from what I saw, but I’m not so sure they are overly concerned about the traditional NT. They only play their base defense about 25% of the time so they could be comfortable or at least willing to go with Guy, Shelton, Butler and Cowart in the middle. |
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Post by texs31 on Aug 19, 2019 10:04:12 GMT -5
There was some speculation that Pennel may be dealing with an injury.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 19, 2019 11:24:24 GMT -5
If you want to run a 3-4 don't Pennel and Shelton basically have to be locks to make the team? The key is having those monsters that can take up space and multiple blockers like Ted Washington and Wilfork did. If no Pennel than who is your second NT? If we are really now mostly 3-4 Roberts likely is a lock to make the team. He's a perfect 3-4 middle LB and you need extra depth if your playing two guys most of the time. Unless they would use Van Noy as the back up given the depth at OLB. Not easy given the depth at OLB this year. Didn't watch the game, did they run 3-4 for the whole game again? I wouldn't judge a rookie QB harshly for almost mistakes, that's what rookies do. Like remember the great Payton Manning and all his picks his rookie year? It's the ability to throw those timing throws where only his guy can get it that's crazy impressive. He looks like he should have been a first round pick. Meyers was the highest rated undrafted guy we signed, but wow didn't see this coming. I wanted a second WR and we got one without using a draft pick. Impact undrafted WRs happen, but not that often. Maybe it's way too soon to call him that, but he's been impressive. They did run a “3-4” most of the time from what I saw, but I’m not so sure they are overly concerned about the traditional NT. They only play their base defense about 25% of the time so they could be comfortable or at least willing to go with Guy, Shelton, Butler and Cowart in the middle. You're still thinking like we run a 4-3, sub packages in a 3-4 still use a NT. Well they did for 10 plus years before we switched in 2011 to 4-3. Like the NT is key to a 3-4, they need to be huge to tie up more than one blocker to free the LBers up to make plays. In game one they played over 50% in a 3-4, the rest were crazy sub packages and last game Shelton and Pennel played like 60% of the snaps. It's early and pre season still, so those numbers could mean very little, yet we have a decade plus of 3-4 to go off of and the NT was always key to those defenses. I don't see Guy, Butler or Cowart as close to being a NT, though Guy has added a good amount of weight in recent years. We still only have two guys over 315 pounds. If they cut Pennel they better get a true NT for the practice squad, it's just key for a 3-4 to have those massive guys, ones bigger than centers and guards. |
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Post by texs31 on Aug 19, 2019 16:47:39 GMT -5
Edelman off NFI so we now have 4 players who can immediately revert to an inactive reserve status (to help in cutting down to 53 - or 54 including Watson).
Cajuste and Gordon are on Active - NFI
Thomas and Meredith are on Active - PUP
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Post by ramireja on Aug 19, 2019 18:33:53 GMT -5
Ryan Allen released. Welcome to the Jake Bailey era.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 18:50:05 GMT -5
Ryan Allen released. Welcome to the Jake Bailey era. Ryan Allen was awful last year. This is actually a breath of fresh air here. |
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