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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 6, 2019 6:50:37 GMT -5
This is actually really good for the NBA...
It’s wide open now... 2 stars teaming up is one thing but 3 is a whole other. There’s a bunch of 2 star tandems and a few super deep teams like the Jazz and Nuggets that may be even better.
I don’t see how he Lakers are the best team. Keeping Kuzma was huge for them but unless AD suddenly becomes a durable player not having that 3 star is really going to hurt them. Also, what are the chances LeBrons injuries last year weren’t the start of him breaking down a bit physically?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 6, 2019 7:06:07 GMT -5
This is actually really good for the NBA... It’s wide open now... 2 stars teaming up is one thing but 3 is a whole other. There’s a bunch of 2 star tandems and a few super deep teams like the Jazz and Nuggets that may be even better. I don’t see how he Lakers are the best team. Keeping Kuzma was huge for them but unless AD suddenly becomes a durable player not having that 3 star is really going to hurt them. Also, what are the chances LeBrons injuries last year weren’t the start of him breaking down a bit physically? If LeBron and AD are healthy the end of the year (give them plenty of time off), they can put a dominant month of basketball in the playoffs. The Lakers are good enough to sneak into the playoffs. |
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Post by prangerx on Jul 6, 2019 7:14:49 GMT -5
Lol ya, that trade Paul George is horrendous though. They better be good for the next 4 years or that'll blow up, for sure. Its a a great trade baring a disaster. Their own picks are going to be low anyway. The unprotected Heat picks are worth the cost if it gets you George and Leonard by default. Two superstars still on their prime, they should contend for years to come. Brooklyn messed up by given away their picks for an aging Pierce and Garnett ( Of course it ironically didn't hurt them in the end considering they just got Irving and Durant. If Durant's healthy enough after his return, they could very well win a championship before the Celtics.). This is absolutely a trade you make if you are the Clippers. The Thunder are the real losers right now since they had to trade a superstar player they were looking to build around because he wanted to be traded.It just shows you the power the players have in that league. They did seem to make the best of a bad situation. If they get good lottery picks and make the right selections , things could work out in the end for them too. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 6, 2019 7:15:37 GMT -5
With most of the stars choosing the West I am liking the Memphis pick more and more.
Before this past season Brad had a good history of getting the most out of players, it is a long list of players who excelled under his coaching. With that in mind I am optimistic the C's will surprise many this coming season. Kanter is no slouch and if Brad can get him to be passable or + on D he could be the next guy who has his best seasons while in Boston.
Love these Clipper moves as a Celtic fan. No Laker dominant team, tougher west and the Clips gave up their future for a trophy now. That is a steep price but most of those picks will end up being in the 20's unless something bad happens to PG or KL.
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Post by prangerx on Jul 6, 2019 7:18:04 GMT -5
This is actually really good for the NBA... It’s wide open now... 2 stars teaming up is one thing but 3 is a whole other. There’s a bunch of 2 star tandems and a few super deep teams like the Jazz and Nuggets that may be even better. I don’t see how he Lakers are the best team. Keeping Kuzma was huge for them but unless AD suddenly becomes a durable player not having that 3 star is really going to hurt them. Also, what are the chances LeBrons injuries last year weren’t the start of him breaking down a bit physically? If LeBron and AD are healthy the end of the year (give them plenty of time off), they can put a dominant month of basketball in the playoffs. The Lakers are good enough to sneak into the playoffs. They might not be the best team but their pretty high up there. They are going to do a lot more then sneak into the playoffs. Really its between them and the Warriors, and Clippers in the West. No one in the East can probably take them until the Nets get Durant bac, if he is even the same. |
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Post by prangerx on Jul 6, 2019 7:20:29 GMT -5
I think it’s safe to say the Celtics want no part of Cousins. I read this morning the Livingston was likely going to retire. only 2m of his salary is guaranteed and they pushed back the deadline on the other 5.7 to give them the chance to trade him and open up a little more space. The thought is the team getting him would then cut him, absorbing just the 2m but getting an asset back. Once cut by either the Warriors or the other team he’d retire and start a front office career. Celtics should really reconsider. They need a big bad. Getting Cousins cheap is a good gamble. The drop off after him is pretty big. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 6, 2019 7:29:08 GMT -5
Lol ya, that trade Paul George is horrendous though. They better be good for the next 4 years or that'll blow up, for sure. Its a a great trade baring a disaster. Their own picks are going to be low anyway. The unprotected Heat picks are worth the cost if it gets you George and Leonard by default. Two superstars still on their prime, they should contend for years to come. Brooklyn messed up by given away their picks for an aging Pierce and Garnett ( Of course it ironically didn't hurt them in the end considering they just got Irving and Durant. If Durant's healthy enough after his return, they could very well win a championship before the Celtics.). This is absolutely a trade you make if you are the Clippers. The Thunder are the real losers right now since they had to trade a superstar player they were looking to build around because he wanted to be traded.It just shows you the power the players have in that league. They did seem to make the best of a bad situation. If they get good lottery picks and make the right selections , things could work out in the end for them too. The 2023-2026 picks and pick swaps could end up blowing up in their faces big-time, but yeah they haven't been relevant since the beginning of time. They had to do something and were desperate. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 6, 2019 7:33:24 GMT -5
If LeBron and AD are healthy the end of the year (give them plenty of time off), they can put a dominant month of basketball in the playoffs. The Lakers are good enough to sneak into the playoffs. They might not be the best team but their pretty high up there. They are going to do a lot more then sneak into the playoffs. Really its between them and the Warriors, and Clippers in the West. No one in the East can probably take them until the Nets get Durant bac, if he is even the same. Warriors might have a huge drop off. Lakers durability might affect their seeding big-time in the playoff picture. There's a lot of quality teams in the West. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 6, 2019 7:35:07 GMT -5
If LeBron and AD are healthy the end of the year (give them plenty of time off), they can put a dominant month of basketball in the playoffs. The Lakers are good enough to sneak into the playoffs. They might not be the best team but their pretty high up there. They are going to do a lot more then sneak into the playoffs. Really its between them and the Warriors, and Clippers in the West. No one in the East can probably take them until the Nets get Durant bac, if he is even the same. I agree they will be up there but the West is wide open. Add the Rockets, Jazz and Nuggets to the list above. Also, Portland just made a WCF and did push the Warriors so we shouldn’t dismiss them. A lot of people think the Jazz are the best team in the NBA after adding Connelly. They have stars and depth and a great coach. In no particular order you have: Warriors LAL LAC Jazz Rockets Portland Denver That’s 7 teams that all have strong arguments to come out of the West. This may finally be the year the Spurs are back in the lottery. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 6, 2019 7:36:34 GMT -5
I think it’s safe to say the Celtics want no part of Cousins. I read this morning the Livingston was likely going to retire. only 2m of his salary is guaranteed and they pushed back the deadline on the other 5.7 to give them the chance to trade him and open up a little more space. The thought is the team getting him would then cut him, absorbing just the 2m but getting an asset back. Once cut by either the Warriors or the other team he’d retire and start a front office career. Celtics should really reconsider. They need a big bad. Getting Cousins cheap is a good gamble. The drop off after him is pretty big. That ship has sailed. One, they have no interest. Two, they signed so many Centers already and most importantly they have no money to do it. He’s not signing a vet minimum deal to play for the Celtics. If it got that bad then he’d go to a different squad for that money. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 6, 2019 7:41:33 GMT -5
The Lakers signed McGee, KCP was Danny Green last night. McGee I don’t care for but the other 2, especially Green are really good role players for them. They will probably sign Rondo but they need a PG and a bunch of bench players. I’m not sure what money they are working off of at this point of.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 6, 2019 9:02:44 GMT -5
Quinn Cook to Lakers.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 6, 2019 10:55:27 GMT -5
Wow. Like wow has this been a crazy off-season in the NBA. Danny looks a lot better not trading for Leonard. The Raptors are toast, still likely worth it for them given what they gave up. Just wow.
Like the whole NBA just changed. A lot of teams are going to rebuild now and the trade market could get crazy around the deadline.
Kinda adds some incentive to Danny to see what else he can do. East is now wide open. Sixers look strong, but zero bench which killed them last year. It's not going to happen but Cousins would put you right into the mix as a top team in the East.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 6, 2019 11:02:42 GMT -5
I’m biased as a Duke guy but that’s a nice pick up for them. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 6, 2019 11:05:01 GMT -5
Wow. Like wow has this been a crazy off-season in the NBA. Danny looks a lot better not trading for Leonard. The Raptors are toast, still likely worth it for them given what they gave up. Just wow. Like the whole NBA just changed. A lot of teams are going to rebuild now and the trade market could get crazy around the deadline. Kinda adds some incentive to Danny to see what else he can do. East is now wide open. Sixers look strong, but zero bench which killed them last year. It's not going to happen but Cousins would put you right into the mix as a top team in the East. 100% worth a Title, not even a question about it, but yea they seem to be in tough shape. Might have best GM in the game though so at least they have that - before they got Leonard we thought they were toast. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 6, 2019 11:49:44 GMT -5
I think this is bullshit and I don't like where the league is going. Paul George resigning with the Thunder felt like a reason to celebrate, an outsider choosing to remain with a smaller city team because he enjoyed his time there. Now he heads elsewhere like it's nothing. While I'm happy to see the Lakers getting screwed, I think it's messed up how it feels orchestrated by the player and other FO to mess with them (unless you really believe Kawhi had good intentions and was in fact doubtful about where he would go, which is a very naive thing to do but OK). The whole thing just feels like an european soccer league now, smart team building takes a back seat if you're not in a big city.
On the other hand, Lebron/AD and Kawhi/George could get injured and then reward the smaller market teams with a massive haul. I feel no shame in saying I'd enjoy that.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jul 6, 2019 13:49:15 GMT -5
This will be the first time in quite a while that there isn't a "super team" sucking up all the oxygen in the league. Going to be a VERY exciting year.
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Post by cutz on Jul 6, 2019 15:24:41 GMT -5
Lol ya, that trade Paul George is horrendous though. They better be good for the next 4 years or that'll blow up, for sure. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 6, 2019 16:04:06 GMT -5
Cousins to the Lakers. Yeah, that team is loaded. They signed Rondo for the minimum, too.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 6, 2019 16:49:53 GMT -5
I don’t see that team winning. Cousins, Rondo and LeBron, too many volatile personalities.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 6, 2019 17:00:49 GMT -5
Tacko is slow. Yeah can see why he went undrafted. No way he's making the team.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 6, 2019 17:21:37 GMT -5
Williams still looks raw too. Not much there with a jump shot. Didn't look good at the free throw line.
Carson Edwards is not afraid to shoot a basketball lol. He'll be jacking up a ton of shots.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 6, 2019 17:28:55 GMT -5
I don’t see that team winning. Cousins, Rondo and LeBron, too many volatile personalities. They weren't a playoff team last year, and apart form adding AD, it seems like they've just reshuffled a few pieces. I don't think AD takes them to the top by himself. And he and Cousins never seemed a great match in NO. |
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 6, 2019 17:46:42 GMT -5
Tacko is slow. Yeah can see why he went undrafted. No way he's making the team. Tacko is a curiosity but will be an asterisk. Robert Williams is an athlete. He'll never be a shooter but he is a quick rim protector. Man Edwards and Waters are quick....Yabu has gained 20 pounds...size 42 hips. ...disappointing. Grant Williams is seasoned...looks like Tatum in that respect. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 6, 2019 17:55:04 GMT -5
Tacko is slow. Yeah can see why he went undrafted. No way he's making the team. Tacko is a curiosity but will be an asterisk. Robert Williams is an athlete. He'll never be a shooter but he is a quick rim protector. Man Edwards and Waters are quick....Yabu has gained 20 pounds...size 42 hips. ...disappointing. Grant Williams is seasoned...looks like Tatum in that respect. Yeah, I don't know what RJP sees with Yabu, but I definitely don't see it. Yeah, impressed with Waters aggression on defense. Edwards moves like the wind. Grant will blend right in just fine. Seems like R Williams could be another year away. Will stink if he can't develop a shot, it will limit him as a potential guy that stretches the floor. |
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