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2019 Celtics Offseason Thread
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:58:17 GMT -5
Yeah, believe every hearsay f-ing quote from a guy who's friendly with Kyrie now. You're about as gullible as they come Umass. Obviously you don't know what hearsay means. These are direct quotes from a player who had direct conversations with the other player. The quotes were printed by a reporter who was interviewing that player. Direct quotes. If that's what you think hearsay is, then literally nothing ever printed in any newspaper would ever have any credibility. LOL BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IF IT'S QUOTED THAT ONE PERSON SAID SOMETHING AND IT COMES FROM ANOTHER MAN'S MOUTH!!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:59:36 GMT -5
I don't give a royal shit about Irving, it's all about beating your dead horses into the ground, I guess. EVERYTHING WAS KYRIES FAULT LAST YEAR!! HE'S THE WORST!! THE CELTICS ARE NOW GOING TO THE FINALS BECAUSE HE'S GONE! PROBLEMS ARE NOW OVER IN BOSTON!! IT WAS ALL HIM!! You're acting like a 2 year old FFS. If you don't want to talk about it, then don't offer your opinion. Who's the one kicking a player once he's gone? Me or you?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 18, 2019 17:07:48 GMT -5
You're acting like a 2 year old FFS. If you don't want to talk about it, then don't offer your opinion. Who's the one kicking a player once he's gone? Me or you? Who's the one defending him endlessly and telling us what we're allowed to talk about?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 18, 2019 17:11:19 GMT -5
Oh what's even better is that it was a freaking podcast with the reporter and Dinwiddie that you can listen to. LOL Spencer Dinwiddie goes inside relationship with Kyrie Irving In a special edition of the Back To Back Pod, Shams Charania talks with Spencer Dinwiddie on how the Nets landed Kyrie Irving, their successful offseason (Kevin Durant) and silver linings of the upcoming season. theathletic.com/podcast/8-back-to-back/?episode=35
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:12:00 GMT -5
Who's the one kicking a player once he's gone? Me or you? Who's the one defending him endlessly and telling us what we're allowed to talk about? I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm telling you that this is absolutely ridiculous. Blame the 2019/2020 season on Kyrie while you're at it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:13:09 GMT -5
Oh what's even better is that it was a freaking podcast with the reporter and Dinwiddie that you can listen to. LOL Spencer Dinwiddie goes inside relationship with Kyrie Irving In a special edition of the Back To Back Pod, Shams Charania talks with Spencer Dinwiddie on how the Nets landed Kyrie Irving, their successful offseason (Kevin Durant) and silver linings of the upcoming season. theathletic.com/podcast/8-back-to-back/?episode=35Ohh nothing gets a podcast going than juicy contreversy!!
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 18, 2019 17:27:27 GMT -5
Oh what's even better is that it was a freaking podcast with the reporter and Dinwiddie that you can listen to. LOL Spencer Dinwiddie goes inside relationship with Kyrie Irving In a special edition of the Back To Back Pod, Shams Charania talks with Spencer Dinwiddie on how the Nets landed Kyrie Irving, their successful offseason (Kevin Durant) and silver linings of the upcoming season. theathletic.com/podcast/8-back-to-back/?episode=35Ohh nothing gets a podcast going than juicy contreversy!! So you've backed off the part where you think that the reporter made it up? Now Irving's new teammate is just making stuff up about him?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 18, 2019 17:34:05 GMT -5
Who's the one defending him endlessly and telling us what we're allowed to talk about? I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm telling you that this is absolutely ridiculous. Blame the 2019/2020 season on Kyrie while you're at it. I'm not blaming shit on him right now. It's just really shitty to have your star player talking to other players about where they're going next season while they're supposed to be focused on the current season. While he's telling the Celtics and their fans that he's going nowhere out of the other side of his mouth. That you don't feel betrayed by him makes it seem like you're a Kyrie fan, not a Celtics fan.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:35:30 GMT -5
Ohh nothing gets a podcast going than juicy contreversy!! So you've backed off the part where you think that the reporter made it up? Now Irving's new teammate is just making stuff up about him? What? I didn't listen to it because it's garbage.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 18, 2019 17:36:32 GMT -5
So you've backed off the part where you think that the reporter made it up? Now Irving's new teammate is just making stuff up about him? What? I didn't listen to it because it's garbage. Then why were you saying it was all made up?
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 18, 2019 17:36:33 GMT -5
pedrofan you're sounding like a truther. I get it, you like Irving. I did too at one point. He checked out so hard before the season was over and left the team in such a pathetic way that he'll forever be mocked by Boston sports fans. That's just the way it is.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:38:04 GMT -5
I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm telling you that this is absolutely ridiculous. Blame the 2019/2020 season on Kyrie while you're at it. I'm not blaming shit on him right now. It's just really shitty to have your star player talking to other players about where they're going next season while they're supposed to be focused on the current season. While he's telling the Celtics and their fans that he's going nowhere out of the other side of his mouth. That you don't feel betrayed by him makes it seem like you're a Kyrie fan, not a Celtics fan. It happens all the time in the NBA where star talent talks from one side of his mouth and does another. It's the league of the NBA. Be thankful he didn't ask to leave while under contract like Paul George did. It's a players league.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:50:30 GMT -5
pedrofan you're sounding like a truther. I get it, you like Irving. I did too at one point. He checked out so hard before the season was over and left the team in such a pathetic way that he'll forever be mocked by Boston sports fans. That's just the way it is. I just hate bashing star players as they leave town. It doesn't make this city look good, when it happens. I certainly didn't blame Jon Lester for leaving. That was all John Henry's mess.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 18, 2019 18:07:38 GMT -5
I'll take an honest guy like George any day of the week over a liar. At least we could have got something for him in trade!
I hate bashing a guy if it's for no reason. Like very few people bashed Lester, he gave us no reason to bash him. Irving litterally made himself hated in Boston by his own actions and words. Boston didn't just turn on him because he left, but because of how he acted while he was here. That now includes looking for a new team at the beginning of the season. Like he's upset guys are going out in Miami, but his focus is on finding a new team all season long.
Perfect example of a class act is Horford, did anyone bash him? It was a total shock, but I don't think I've seen one negative article about the guy leaving.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 18, 2019 18:31:05 GMT -5
Pedro are you drinking again?
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 18, 2019 18:35:07 GMT -5
In actual Celtics news the Celtics signed Javonte Green - he will compete for a roster spot.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 18, 2019 18:39:49 GMT -5
I just hate bashing star players as they leave town. It doesn't make this city look good, when it happens. I certainly didn't blame Jon Lester for leaving. That was all John Henry's mess. Jon Lester won everything with the Red Sox and was the ultimate pro all the way, possible chicken and beer incident aside. Kyrie didn't win dick with the Celtics and was an insufferable asshole for an entire season. I want to move on from Kyrie too, but seeing some confirmation that he wanted out furthers the feeling that he checked out before the season was over. It's the one thing you can't do in a Boston team, the one thing the fans will NOT forgive you for and that's quitting while the season is still on (or as Ray Allen proved it, you can't do it while the season is still fresh either). There's a reason Boston is Championship City this century, there's a clear professional standard that everyone embraces. And I mean everyone will hold you accountable to it, be it fans, other players, owners, coaches, front office people, heck probably maintenance people as well. They all expect you to do one thing: your job. Kyrie didn't do his job. He was biding his time until he was freed to be part of an irrelevant team again in Brooklyn. Good riddance.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 19:07:38 GMT -5
I'll take an honest guy like George any day of the week over a liar. At least we could have got something for him in trade! I hate bashing a guy if it's for no reason. Like very few people bashed Lester, he gave us no reason to bash him. Irving litterally made himself hated in Boston by his own actions and words. Boston didn't just turn on him because he left, but because of how he acted while he was here. That now includes looking for a new team at the beginning of the season. Like he's upset guys are going out in Miami, but his focus is on finding a new team all season long. Perfect example of a class act is Horford, did anyone bash him? It was a total shock, but I don't think I've seen one negative article about the guy leaving. Paul George forced his way out of a situation by demanding a trade when he just signed a multiple year extension. He basically forced Oklahoma into a rebuild. Yeah. What a guy. Multiple people bashed Lester for taking the most money after saying he would take less to stay, too. Leaving out all the details, I see.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 19:09:57 GMT -5
Pedro are you drinking again? Nah, only on weekends lol.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 18, 2019 19:56:27 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 18, 2019 21:35:35 GMT -5
I'll take an honest guy like George any day of the week over a liar. At least we could have got something for him in trade! I hate bashing a guy if it's for no reason. Like very few people bashed Lester, he gave us no reason to bash him. Irving litterally made himself hated in Boston by his own actions and words. Boston didn't just turn on him because he left, but because of how he acted while he was here. That now includes looking for a new team at the beginning of the season. Like he's upset guys are going out in Miami, but his focus is on finding a new team all season long. Perfect example of a class act is Horford, did anyone bash him? It was a total shock, but I don't think I've seen one negative article about the guy leaving. Paul George forced his way out of a situation by demanding a trade when he just signed a multiple year extension. He basically forced Oklahoma into a rebuild. Yeah. What a guy. Multiple people bashed Lester for taking the most money after saying he would take less to stay, too. Leaving out all the details, I see. So you prefer nothing over like the 15 picks they got for him? Very few people bashed Lester, you don't get hometown discounts after trading a guy. I never said no one did, I didn't leave out anything. Your just on a ramage tonight.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 22:04:45 GMT -5
Paul George forced his way out of a situation by demanding a trade when he just signed a multiple year extension. He basically forced Oklahoma into a rebuild. Yeah. What a guy. Multiple people bashed Lester for taking the most money after saying he would take less to stay, too. Leaving out all the details, I see. So you prefer nothing over like the 15 picks they got for him? Very few people bashed Lester, you don't get hometown discounts after trading a guy. I never said no one did, I didn't leave out anything. Your just on a ramage tonight. People were pissed that he completely walked away from the table after the Sox offered 70 million. Then they were pissed that he took 150 plus million to the Sox 135 million after he said he wanted to be here. It was a player who talked from one side of his mouth to the other. Surprise surprise. I think that OKC would have liked to compete like they originally planned with Westbrook and George and be contenders after he just signed a extension or why sign him in the first place?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 22:18:33 GMT -5
It's really not even all that complicated. If Kyrie takes the Celtics to the Finals, he probably gets glorified and praised, and he probably stays. He didn't do that. He instead leaves the city who was extra critical of him all year. He calls his buddy Durant, and the deal is done.
Let's add more fluff to the story to critisize him more as he leaves town. None of this crap comes out if he takes the Celtics to the Finals in his back.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 18, 2019 23:05:30 GMT -5
So you prefer nothing over like the 15 picks they got for him? Very few people bashed Lester, you don't get hometown discounts after trading a guy. I never said no one did, I didn't leave out anything. Your just on a ramage tonight. People were pissed that he completely walked away from the table after the Sox offered 70 million. Then they were pissed that he took 150 plus million to the Sox 135 million after he said he wanted to be here. It was a player who talked from one side of his mouth to the other. Surprise surprise. I think that OKC would have liked to compete like they originally planned with Westbrook and George and be contenders after he just signed a extension or why sign him in the first place? Pedro I don't care about a few people, which is what your talking about with Lester. He didn't come close to getting the Irving treatment, like not even close at all. We low balled him, which they would admit too later on, then traded him. He didn't say one thing and do another. I 100% believe he wanted to be here and would have taken less. That didn't mean he was taking 90 million less and the minute you trade him it changes everything! If they offered him a fair deal he'd still be in Boston and if they really wanted to keep him, they wouldn't have traded him. Your example is kinda crazy, Lester isn't anything like Irving. I love Lester and don't have a bad word to say about him. The Sox were cheap, the Sox messed up, that was the narrative when he left. Not that Lester was some two faced liar.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 18, 2019 23:20:35 GMT -5
It's really not even all that complicated. If Kyrie takes the Celtics to the Finals, he probably gets glorified and praised, and he probably stays. He didn't do that. He instead leaves the city who was extra critical of him all year. He calls his buddy Durant, and the deal is done. Let's add more fluff to the story to critisize him more as he leaves town. None of this crap comes out if he takes the Celtics to the Finals in his back. You still don't get it, he didn't like Boston as reported by Jackie M. I don't mean the media or the fans, he didn't like the City and wanted to move on. Win a title and he likely pulls a Leonard and leaves. I'd much rather have him demand a trade and we move on then what he did. Which is basically play the whole year with one foot out the door. I'll take the assets over nothing every single day! No Irving is saying he'll resign, talking up the team, while he's already looking at other places to play. That is two faced and if you believe Bobby Portis a ton of players knew Irving was doing this. So you can easily assume guys in the locker room knew Irving was doing that. All while he's slamming our young guys and telling everyone he's going to lead the team. This stuff isn't fluff at all, it shows some of the big issues that were going on with the Celtics last year. If you truly think it's just fluff than just ignore it, because you love Irving and nothing will change your mind! For the rest of us, it really pisses us off!
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