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2019 Patriots Regular season thread
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 13, 2019 16:46:19 GMT -5
I don't think they'll lose any of the easy games, but games of concern will be @baltimore, @kc and @philly and even the home game vs Buffalo. They aren't going to go all out in those games because they like to surprise teams in the playoffs, especially the AFC teams they may meet. But they'll win at least 2 of those so I'll stick with 14-2. They're actually outpacing the 2007 season for point differential, but this schedule has been historically easy so far. Does the NFL have a tanking problem? Sure seems like it. Out of all the major sports the NFL easily has the least issue with tanking. Injuries can make teams bad in the NFL in a hurry. The Jets suck for example, but how could you think they were tanking? They signed Bell and Mosley in the off-season. Then we play them, Mosley is injured, so is there OB and 2nd string QB, plus there top two WRs. Almost all teams try to win, there are just a lot of bad GMs. Like the one team you could say was tanking is the Dolphins. Yet they have 55 million in dead money. Still went out and got a veteran QB and played him over Rosen for weeks. Knowing that coach he wants to win, yet had to gut the team to change the crappy team culture. Looking at the bad teams by record you think Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Washington, Denver, etc were trying to tank? A team like the Giants trade OBJ, yet sign Golden Tate. Yet we play them and their top two RBs are injured, along with the #2 WR and #1 TE. I know, I don't think it's a problem, but I've never seen an easier 6 games to start a season as the Patriots have had. And LOL Cowboys, down 21-3 to the Jets. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 14, 2019 6:23:51 GMT -5
Kansas City lost its second home game in a row to a conference opponent. That’s good stuff.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 14, 2019 6:45:26 GMT -5
Harry and Cajuste can practice today... Yodny Cajuste i forgot about.... he’s not an IR guy so he doesn’t count as one of 2 to bring back. I know it’s a long shot he helps or even practices but at least it’s another possibility.
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Post by costpet on Oct 14, 2019 7:26:16 GMT -5
I’ m confused. Can Cajuste come back to the 53 and 2others from the IR as well?
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Post by mobaz on Oct 14, 2019 8:31:17 GMT -5
I’ m confused. Can Cajuste come back to the 53 and 2others from the IR as well? He's still on PUP/NFI which is where you go if you never started practicing. So he's on a separate list. Once he starts practicing they either need to activate him or move him to IR. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 14, 2019 15:06:02 GMT -5
I thought the IR and NFI list were the same, except you don't have to pay the NFI guys their full salary and it doesn't count as a season towards becoming a free agent. Meaning if you weren't on the first 53 you can't come back this season?
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 14, 2019 22:21:41 GMT -5
Anyone watching the MNF? This game is a disgrace, the refs single handily won this game for the Packers. This is embarrassing and it's killing the sport, these refs should be in jail. This sport needs to die so it can be reborn with serious people running it. Seriously, I'm legit mad.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 14, 2019 23:13:40 GMT -5
Anyone watching the MNF? This game is a disgrace, the refs single handily won this game for the Packers. This is embarrassing and it's killing the sport, these refs should be in jail. This sport needs to die so it can be reborn with serious people running it. Seriously, I'm legit mad. Here's a good 11 minute and 25 second rant on the game. Also, this is a TD that they took away: /cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19288366/insta.gif) |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 15, 2019 6:22:58 GMT -5
I thought the IR and NFI list were the same, except you don't have to pay the NFI guys their full salary and it doesn't count as a season towards becoming a free agent. Meaning if you weren't on the first 53 you can't come back this season? I’m not sure... i read he was eligible to start practicing this week. I’ll try and find another source. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 15, 2019 6:33:27 GMT -5
Bad calls for sure on Flowers but the coach in me always feels like this is why you can’t put yourself in a position to have these plays against you. The Lions could have and should have buried the Packers and didn’t and those plays, the ones you can control, are why they lost the game, not the officials.
Side note: I’m not an expert on the Lions so I’m not really sure what their offensive line is like, but man the skill position players are talented. They have to be top 5 in the league right?
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Post by texs31 on Oct 15, 2019 10:52:10 GMT -5
NE doubling down on TE depth. Bringing back Watson and adding Eric Tomlinson
Kesler not at practice so he's likely cut and Jakob Johnson has been placed on IR.
EDIT: Harry is back practicing on the 1st day he's eligible.
EDIT2: Meanwhile, Bennett was also missing from practice.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 15, 2019 11:06:19 GMT -5
I thought the IR and NFI list were the same, except you don't have to pay the NFI guys their full salary and it doesn't count as a season towards becoming a free agent. Meaning if you weren't on the first 53 you can't come back this season? I’m not sure... i read he was eligible to start practicing this week. I’ll try and find another source. It sure seems for him to come back, he'd have to be on the active and count against the 53 man roster. Which he wasn't. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 15, 2019 11:16:10 GMT -5
I know RJP thought the Media was creating an issue out of nothing with Michael Bennett. Yet there sure seems to be an issue there. Asked if playing time was an issue he said what do you think?
He only played 11 snaps last game. Only guys to play less were Roberts a part time LB and Chung who was injured. They played Wise more than him, a guy who almost didn't make the team.
Rumors starting to fly they could look to trade him, which would be one way to get cap space for another trade.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 15, 2019 12:23:57 GMT -5
I know RJP thought the Media was creating an issue out of nothing with Michael Bennett. Yet there sure seems to be an issue there. Asked if playing time was an issue he said what do you think? He only played 11 snaps last game. Only guys to play less were Roberts a part time LB and Chung who was injured. They played Wise more than him, a guy who almost didn't make the team. Rumors starting to fly they could look to trade him, which would be one way to get cap space for another trade. When I said that I also said clearly he’s not happy with his playing time... my point was the media making it a public story - asking him about it all the time will make something more of an issue than it needs to be just so they can feed their desire to write a juicy story. I’d also like to add that the trade rumors are 100% media speculation based on nothing but them trying to fit the pieces together for moves the Patriots might make. They aren’t based on any type of leaked information about the Patriots actually trying to trade him. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 15, 2019 13:34:22 GMT -5
Bad calls for sure on Flowers but the coach in me always feels like this is why you can’t put yourself in a position to have these plays against you. The Lions could have and should have buried the Packers and didn’t and those plays, the ones you can control, are why they lost the game, not the officials. Side note: I’m not an expert on the Lions so I’m not really sure what their offensive line is like, but man the skill position players are talented. They have to be top 5 in the league right? Sure the Lions could have won the game and they did have that stupid 12 men penalty, but this game is 100% on the refs. The Packers have a good defense, it's tough to blow them up enough so the refs don't matter. Both of the penalties on Flowers changed the game, heck the second one officially killed it. There's also that unnecessary roughness call that was atrocious. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can watch that game last night and don't think that the NFL is fixing these games. I mean, the Packers would be a good story. Rodgers is a great QB, they have a good roster, so let's help them out to make sure they reach the post-season. It's that bad. |
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Post by texs31 on Oct 15, 2019 14:24:18 GMT -5
Bennett has been suspended 1 week for conduct detrimental (had a "philosophical disagreement" with his position coach)
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 15, 2019 14:47:28 GMT -5
I know RJP thought the Media was creating an issue out of nothing with Michael Bennett. Yet there sure seems to be an issue there. Asked if playing time was an issue he said what do you think? He only played 11 snaps last game. Only guys to play less were Roberts a part time LB and Chung who was injured. They played Wise more than him, a guy who almost didn't make the team. Rumors starting to fly they could look to trade him, which would be one way to get cap space for another trade. When I said that I also said clearly he’s not happy with his playing time... my point was the media making it a public story - asking him about it all the time will make something more of an issue than it needs to be just so they can feed their desire to write a juicy story. I’d also like to add that the trade rumors are 100% media speculation based on nothing but them trying to fit the pieces together for moves the Patriots might make. They aren’t based on any type of leaked information about the Patriots actually trying to trade him. Playing time by percentage of snaps per week 50%, 40%, 38%, 30%, 25%, and 22%. There is something there, that is a crazy clear pattern for six straight weeks. Guy with the 6th highest cap number on the team goes from starting and playing 50% of the snaps to 22% while not starting since week one. I want the media asking questions, because I want to know what's up. Now he gets suspended for a week. They sure seem that way, yet do you think the Patriots aren't thinking the same way? |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 15, 2019 15:23:46 GMT -5
When I said that I also said clearly he’s not happy with his playing time... my point was the media making it a public story - asking him about it all the time will make something more of an issue than it needs to be just so they can feed their desire to write a juicy story. I’d also like to add that the trade rumors are 100% media speculation based on nothing but them trying to fit the pieces together for moves the Patriots might make. They aren’t based on any type of leaked information about the Patriots actually trying to trade him. Playing time by percentage of snaps per week 50%, 40%, 38%, 30%, 25%, and 22%. There is something there, that is a crazy clear pattern for six straight weeks. Guy with the 6th highest cap number on the team goes from starting and playing 50% of the snaps to 22% while not starting since week one. I want the media asking questions, because I want to know what's up. Now he gets suspended for a week. They sure seem that way, yet do you think the Patriots aren't thinking the same way? Same way as what? I don’t have a problem asking certain questions... but you really are itching as a fan to have the media surround Bennett and ask him if he’s happy with his playing time - asking him why he’s not playing more etc? i have a problem pushing a negative story for clicks when it doesn’t add anything of value and really just creates a more contentious environment. |
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 15, 2019 15:58:34 GMT -5
Playing time by percentage of snaps per week 50%, 40%, 38%, 30%, 25%, and 22%. There is something there, that is a crazy clear pattern for six straight weeks. Guy with the 6th highest cap number on the team goes from starting and playing 50% of the snaps to 22% while not starting since week one. I want the media asking questions, because I want to know what's up. Now he gets suspended for a week. They sure seem that way, yet do you think the Patriots aren't thinking the same way? Same way as what? I don’t have a problem asking certain questions... but you really are itching as a fan to have the media surround Bennett and ask him if he’s happy with his playing time - asking him why he’s not playing more etc? i have a problem pushing a negative story for clicks when it doesn’t add anything of value and really just creates a more contentious environment. Isn't this exactly what being a fan of a Boston team is? The "reporters" spend all their time picking at scabs until they bleed. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 16, 2019 8:23:28 GMT -5
I’m going to go a bit off the wall here....
Eric Tomlinson is going to end up quietly being a huge addition. The run game has shown some signs of life but adding a legit blocking tight end could make for a huge jump in productivity. One missed block blows up a run so everyone needs to function in that area and they have no tight ends who can block at the moment and no fullback. Last season Albert McClellan was a huge addition that turned around the special teams that no one talks about but it was a key to winning the SB especially since field position was everything that game. Tomlinson is going to have the same quiet impact.
Or he’s going to suck and be cut in 2 weeks.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 16, 2019 11:41:43 GMT -5
Playing time by percentage of snaps per week 50%, 40%, 38%, 30%, 25%, and 22%. There is something there, that is a crazy clear pattern for six straight weeks. Guy with the 6th highest cap number on the team goes from starting and playing 50% of the snaps to 22% while not starting since week one. I want the media asking questions, because I want to know what's up. Now he gets suspended for a week. They sure seem that way, yet do you think the Patriots aren't thinking the same way? Same way as what? I don’t have a problem asking certain questions... but you really are itching as a fan to have the media surround Bennett and ask him if he’s happy with his playing time - asking him why he’s not playing more etc? i have a problem pushing a negative story for clicks when it doesn’t add anything of value and really just creates a more contentious environment. Looking at moving him, looking at trades. Heck new reports say he wasn't cut just so they could pick the team that gets him or release him after the deadline when he'd have to pass through waivers. Call up the Rams we might get two second round picks and a 5th rounder haha. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 16, 2019 11:54:31 GMT -5
Same way as what? I don’t have a problem asking certain questions... but you really are itching as a fan to have the media surround Bennett and ask him if he’s happy with his playing time - asking him why he’s not playing more etc? i have a problem pushing a negative story for clicks when it doesn’t add anything of value and really just creates a more contentious environment. Looking at moving him, looking at trades. Heck new reports say he wasn't cut just so they could pick the team that gets him or release him after the deadline when he'd have to pass through waivers. Call up the Rams we might get two second round picks and a 5th rounder haha. Thag doesn’t make sense to me... if they cut him they don’t save any cap space vs if they trade him. If you have the option to trade him, it’s a no brainer versus cutting him - Am I missing someThing? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 16, 2019 12:08:18 GMT -5
The theme of the article was why they suspended him over just cutting him like they normally do with problem players. It was try to trade him or release him after the deadline when waivers kick in, right now if released he's a free agent free to sign with anyone. After the deadline he has to pass through waivers, so he likely never makes it to the top teams.
I agree I don't see how you can't trade him.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 16, 2019 12:35:06 GMT -5
Given the need for cap space (assuming they want to add a body or 2 - while also managing the rest of the season), it would make ZERO sense to cut him without exhausting all attempts to trade him first.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 16, 2019 13:31:45 GMT -5
Given the need for cap space (assuming they want to add a body or 2 - while also managing the rest of the season), it would make ZERO sense to cut him without exhausting all attempts to trade him first. It also doesn’t make a lot of sense to cut him if you can’t free up cap space unless he was going to destroy the locker room. |
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