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Post by maxwellsdemon on Sept 10, 2019 14:07:22 GMT -5
Whoever the Jests coach is when the Dolphins go 2-14.
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Post by ramireja on Sept 10, 2019 15:44:25 GMT -5
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 10, 2019 16:14:08 GMT -5
Sorry to see him go but something had to give and it makes sense.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 10, 2019 16:37:27 GMT -5
Shocking that they got anything for him. I half expected him to just get cut.
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Sept 10, 2019 16:47:10 GMT -5
So I guess that means at least 2 more years of BB.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 10, 2019 17:25:47 GMT -5
Kinda a really cold move no? He signed onto win with us, even agreed to get cut and come back so we had an extra roster spot to IR guys. You then trade him to the Jets? He's a big upgrade for them if he's healthy. I know it likely doesn't matter they are so bad, yet kinda weird. Is a 2021 pick really worth not just releasing him. No worries about facing him and worst other free agents fearing they are going to be traded to one of the worst teams in the league. Maybe he's cool with it and they talked with him. I hope so, because I would be pissed. I'd want to win at his point in my career and you just about killed that before week two.
The move itself makes sense. You couldn't release or trade Meyers. Pumped we got a pick, never played a real game and still helped us. It just seems like a cold move if the player didn't ok it given what happened so far.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 10, 2019 19:08:11 GMT -5
Kinda a really cold move no? He signed onto win with us, even agreed to get cut and come back so we had an extra roster spot to IR guys. You then trade him to the Jets? He's a big upgrade for them if he's healthy. I know it likely doesn't matter they are so bad, yet kinda weird. Is a 2021 pick really worth not just releasing him. No worries about facing him and worst other free agents fearing they are going to be traded to one of the worst teams in the league. Maybe he's cool with it and they talked with him. I hope so, because I would be pissed. I'd want to win at his point in my career and you just about killed that before week two. The move itself makes sense. You couldn't release or trade Meyers. Pumped we got a pick, never played a real game and still helped us. It just seems like a cold move if the player didn't ok it given what happened so far. Trading him saved them 2.8m against the cap as his money was guaranteed after week 1 so trading him was a huge development for the Patriots.
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Post by mattpicard on Sept 10, 2019 19:14:10 GMT -5
Kinda a really cold move no? He signed onto win with us, even agreed to get cut and come back so we had an extra roster spot to IR guys. You then trade him to the Jets? He's a big upgrade for them if he's healthy. I know it likely doesn't matter they are so bad, yet kinda weird. Is a 2021 pick really worth not just releasing him. No worries about facing him and worst other free agents fearing they are going to be traded to one of the worst teams in the league. Maybe he's cool with it and they talked with him. I hope so, because I would be pissed. I'd want to win at his point in my career and you just about killed that before week two. The move itself makes sense. You couldn't release or trade Meyers. Pumped we got a pick, never played a real game and still helped us. It just seems like a cold move if the player didn't ok it given what happened so far. Trading him saved them 2.8m against the cap as his money was guaranteed after week 1 so trading him was a huge development for the Patriots. Per PatsCap, it saves $1.5M, but still a good point. There's also a fair chance the Jets were the primary team with interest, and if the Patriots figured he'd sign there anyways, they might as well snag something for him. While DT's had a good NFL career, nothing of recent indicates teams thought much of him. He was a top cut candidate since first signing with the Pats, and folks shouldn't make too much of his solid preseason game.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 10, 2019 19:17:03 GMT -5
I’m glad they are keeping Gunner around. I really think he could be an impact receiver down the road in addition to his return abilities. I hope they let him return kickoffs as well as punts...
Meyers is probably a healthy scratch on game day with Brown being active.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 10, 2019 19:21:50 GMT -5
Trading him saved them 2.8m against the cap as his money was guaranteed after week 1 so trading him was a huge development for the Patriots. Per PatsCap, it saves $1.5M, but still a good point. There's also a fair chance the Jets were the primary team with interest, and if the Patriots figured he'd sign there anyways, they might as well snag something for him. While DT's had a good NFL career, nothing of recent indicates teams thought much of him. He was a top cut candidate since first signing with the Pats, and folks shouldn't make too much of his solid preseason game. For what it’s worth, and it may not be much, but Dr David Chow was all over telling people not to over-react to Thomas’s preseason game. He kind of famous for accurately diagnosing injuries over video etc and he was adamant that Thomas had no explosion or burst and that he wasn’t moving all that freely. I was ignoring it because I was excited about the prospects of him here, especially in the red zone. Red zone offense is one area I am slightly concerned about.
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Post by mattpicard on Sept 10, 2019 19:35:59 GMT -5
I’m glad they are keeping Gunner around. I really think he could be an impact receiver down the road in addition to his return abilities. I hope they let him return kickoffs as well as punts... Meyers is probably a healthy scratch on game day with Brown being active. Agree on both counts. Gunner did get some kick return duty in the preseason (maybe just one game?), but he strictly returned punts in college and hasn't been with the KR units at all lately with the Pats. Bolden didn't look great on KR duty Sunday, not that the limited sample can say too much -- but Gunner brings a lot more electricity. Per PatsCap, it saves $1.5M, but still a good point. There's also a fair chance the Jets were the primary team with interest, and if the Patriots figured he'd sign there anyways, they might as well snag something for him. While DT's had a good NFL career, nothing of recent indicates teams thought much of him. He was a top cut candidate since first signing with the Pats, and folks shouldn't make too much of his solid preseason game. For what it’s worth, and it may not be much, but Dr David Chow was all over telling people not to over-react to Thomas’s preseason game. He kind of famous for accurately diagnosing injuries over video etc and he was adamant that Thomas had no explosion or burst and that he wasn’t moving all that freely. I was ignoring it because I was excited about the prospects of him here, especially in the red zone. Red zone offense is one area I am slightly concerned about. Yup. And to be honest, he'd been looking increasingly mediocre in his games/seasons leading up to the Achilles injury.
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Post by mattpicard on Sept 10, 2019 19:40:53 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 10, 2019 20:26:44 GMT -5
Geez. Maybe they should have hung onto Thomas after all. So so many reasons not to like Antonio Brown. Feel icky for being excited about what he can do on the field. Sometimes you really have to close your eyes to who these guys are off the field to enjoy them on the field. Doesn't make me feel good, though.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 10, 2019 23:34:48 GMT -5
LOL, this dude will never play in one game as a Patriot. What a piece of crap this dude is. Kyrie Irving is a saint now compared to this guy.
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Post by marrcus on Sept 10, 2019 23:47:37 GMT -5
The details don't sound vague. If she has material in writing and witnesses that will say she talked to them about the attack. I'd think the FO will have him suspended for the Miami game and likely released by week three (if that). Big mess. Wonder if Raiders knew? Bad.
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Sept 11, 2019 5:12:33 GMT -5
Regarding Thomas... I think I saw on NFL.com's site a mention that the Pats were the ONLY team that contacted Thomas when he was available. So it's not like he had his choice of teams and went with NE.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 11, 2019 5:59:12 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 11, 2019 6:13:49 GMT -5
It will probably get dismissed after reading that, but it still doesn't mean he's not a POS. This will be a one and done year for Brown with the Patriots, if he even makes it that far.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 11, 2019 7:10:34 GMT -5
So we got lawyers in here... this is a civil case which means he’s not being charged criminally right? Basically, she’s looking for money? It’s like after OJ was found innocent the family sued him but they are skipping the criminal part here... is this accurate?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 11, 2019 11:28:54 GMT -5
Kinda a really cold move no? He signed onto win with us, even agreed to get cut and come back so we had an extra roster spot to IR guys. You then trade him to the Jets? He's a big upgrade for them if he's healthy. I know it likely doesn't matter they are so bad, yet kinda weird. Is a 2021 pick really worth not just releasing him. No worries about facing him and worst other free agents fearing they are going to be traded to one of the worst teams in the league. Maybe he's cool with it and they talked with him. I hope so, because I would be pissed. I'd want to win at his point in my career and you just about killed that before week two. The move itself makes sense. You couldn't release or trade Meyers. Pumped we got a pick, never played a real game and still helped us. It just seems like a cold move if the player didn't ok it given what happened so far. Trading him saved them 2.8m against the cap as his money was guaranteed after week 1 so trading him was a huge development for the Patriots. I forgot that rule that veterans so enough service time have base salary guaranteed if on the 53 for game one. Was thinking because he was released on cut down day all the guaranteed money was gone. Should have known better been reading about Brown for two weeks and they kept bringing that up.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 11, 2019 11:42:39 GMT -5
Thomas was traded for a 4th round pick last year and reports say a bunch of teams were involved in the talks. Yes he's not the top 10-20 fantasy guy he was years ago, but was still a solid #2 last year and would have been a great #3 if he's healthy. I didn't expect to see him till week 6, thought he'd go on IR given his injury happened second to last game of the year. So I wouldn't judge how he looks for a little while, those injuries take time. Look at Wynn they took it slow with him and he had like 5 months on Thomas.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 11, 2019 12:20:00 GMT -5
It will probably get dismissed after reading that, but it still doesn't mean he's not a POS. This will be a one and done year for Brown with the Patriots, if he even makes it that far. I was just starting to feel OK with Brown, thinking most of his crap was an act to get to a team he wanted. Then this drops and OMG I guess it can get worse. How did this guy pass classes in College? The content is horrible, but he writes like a 10 year old even with it being texts. The other shocking thing, Brown took Bible classes and was watching religious videos with her in 2017? Nuns gone wild? This isn't directed at you Pedro, but another article says she was trying to get money for a business from him. That's what the my baby mama was on to you crap is about. You can't dismiss this, even if you find her story kinda crazy. Event one okay, but I'd love to hear an explanation of how event two happens if she didn't want it to. Then goes back alone again for event three? Doesn't file charges, goes straight for the money. A court with a much lower burden of proof and the timing right after public opinion is at an all-time low. Maybe I have the facts all wrong, it's still early who knows. Doesn't really matter I'd have zero issue if they just release him. We don't need endless drama all season long. This all went to crap in two days!
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 11, 2019 12:50:23 GMT -5
LMAO at the latest Antonio Brown development, it feels like I blinked and missed this sh*t. Pats should cut him. They won't, but they should.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 11, 2019 13:39:07 GMT -5
I understand those texts about as much as I understand spanish, which I don't speak.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 11, 2019 13:45:18 GMT -5
I understand those texts about as much as I understand spanish, which I don't speak. The educational system is broken if that person has gone through college, this is just unacceptable.
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