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Post by texs31 on Nov 6, 2019 16:33:04 GMT -5
So crappy last night. Not worried about the L (not sure they deserved to win anyway) but this replay thing is garbage. NHL needs to fix it.
Senyshyn (who was sent back down to AHL, along with Hughes, for Cap Reasons) seemed to fit nicely with Bork and Coyle. Hopefully, he's given more time to see how that line works.
Along with Senyshyn/Hughes, there are some other cap mechanics going on. Just to get Senyshyn onto the roster, B's had to put Miller on LTIR (he had been on regular IR where his cap # counts). That is just a paper move and isn't an indication of a setback.
The B's are going to have to figure some of this stuff out soon as he DOES appear close to being ready. Some smaller Cap Saving possibilities:
1. Move Clifton's 2-Way deal to Providence 2. Move Kuhlman to LTIR 3. Do something with Backes (if he's dealing with a concussion after that horrific collision the other night) they can put him on LTIR for some relief. They can also waive him which would provide some (not much) relief.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 6, 2019 18:06:21 GMT -5
Can't disagree with your thoughts but Rask let in 2 or 3 goals last night that he usually stops 95% of the time.
Kind of like the Pats, they just laid an egg but still could have won.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 6, 2019 18:11:28 GMT -5
Pasternak's one timer from the left side is the most dangerous shot in hockey right now and it isn't even close.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 7, 2019 15:49:17 GMT -5
Pastrnak is definitely having an amazing start to the season, but there's little chance in hell that his shooting percentage stays anywhere close to as high as it is right now. It's 28.6%. For reference, Mario and Neely were 18-19% and this isn't the 80s with crappy goalies and no defense.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 8, 2019 14:00:48 GMT -5
Pastrnak is definitely having an amazing start to the season, but there's little chance in hell that his shooting percentage stays anywhere close to as high as it is right now. It's 28.6%. For reference, Mario and Neely were 18-19% and this isn't the 80s with crappy goalies and no defense. Well of course. You would have to go back to the 80's and Gretzky to find stats like what he is on pace for. The % is really high but it is mostly on the power play and that 1 timer, I just hope they can stay healthy.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 12, 2019 11:22:20 GMT -5
Vaakanainen in for Krug tonight. Grzelcyk will run PP1. Not sure who slides in next to McAvoy on PP2 (given my understanding of how they want to run their PPs, it'll be Chara or Urho - a LH Defenseman)
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 27, 2019 7:09:57 GMT -5
No Bergeron and the B's put a beating on Montreal that goes back 45 years @ home and of course a shot at the old coach Claude. Pasta and the Nose continue on pace for 120 points each.
For me Montreal is worse than the Yankees so crushing them feels good. They ousted the Bruins from the playoffs every year for decades it was brutal.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 27, 2019 9:54:07 GMT -5
NHL Network Analyst Ryan Whitney is "hearing that Charlie Coyle and Chris Wagner are very close to signing extensions". He goes on to say it could be 6 yrs for Coyle and 3 for Wagner (but then says "if it doesn't happen don't "chirp me".
Not really sure what to make of that. You either trust your sources or you don't. If you don't, then why bring it up?
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 27, 2019 10:15:54 GMT -5
NHL Network Analyst Ryan Whitney is "hearing that Charlie Coyle and Chris Wagner are very close to signing extensions". He goes on to say it could be 6 yrs for Coyle and 3 for Wagner (but then says "if it doesn't happen don't "chirp me". Not really sure what to make of that. You either trust your sources or you don't. If you don't, then why bring it up? Well they are both local, close friends and their families are close. It makes a lot of sense they’d like to stay. Not suggesting they’d take well below market deals but I’m sure they are motivated to stay here. The Coyles live close to where I do in town, we are off age wise so we weren’t friends but my circle has a lot of overlap with his families and to say they are massive Bruins fans would be an understatement. It’s quite literally his and his families dream for him to wear a Bruins jersey and it’s gone well so far so if there’s a fair deal one will be made.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 27, 2019 10:30:50 GMT -5
I'd love Coyle to be here. I think he's perfect as a #3 C and is still young enough to grow into a #2 (he's only 27).
I just hope they don't overpay on Wagner like they have the 4th liners of the past.
EDIT - Admittedly, that was more of a Chiarelli move.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 27, 2019 10:42:59 GMT -5
NHL Network Analyst Ryan Whitney is "hearing that Charlie Coyle and Chris Wagner are very close to signing extensions". He goes on to say it could be 6 yrs for Coyle and 3 for Wagner (but then says "if it doesn't happen don't "chirp me". Not really sure what to make of that. You either trust your sources or you don't. If you don't, then why bring it up? Why bring it up? Because these days it is more important to be first than wrong, sadly. In fact the truth almost doesn't matter anymore, that is even sadder. I would love to see 6 more years of Coyle and have to believe that it would be at a bargain based on the timing and length. He hasn't done enough to get paid big and he has a lot of potential to out pace the pay he has earned thus far so yeah I would expect a bargain and I expect him to be better.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 27, 2019 10:44:11 GMT -5
NHL Network Analyst Ryan Whitney is "hearing that Charlie Coyle and Chris Wagner are very close to signing extensions". He goes on to say it could be 6 yrs for Coyle and 3 for Wagner (but then says "if it doesn't happen don't "chirp me". Not really sure what to make of that. You either trust your sources or you don't. If you don't, then why bring it up? Well they are both local, close friends and their families are close. It makes a lot of sense they’d like to stay. Not suggesting they’d take well below market deals but I’m sure they are motivated to stay here. The Coyles live close to where I do in town, we are off age wise so we weren’t friends but my circle has a lot of overlap with his families and to say they are massive Bruins fans would be an understatement. It’s quite literally his and his families dream for him to wear a Bruins jersey and it’s gone well so far so if there’s a fair deal one will be made. Whitney is local, too right?
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Post by texs31 on Nov 27, 2019 10:45:34 GMT -5
NHL Network Analyst Ryan Whitney is "hearing that Charlie Coyle and Chris Wagner are very close to signing extensions". He goes on to say it could be 6 yrs for Coyle and 3 for Wagner (but then says "if it doesn't happen don't "chirp me". Not really sure what to make of that. You either trust your sources or you don't. If you don't, then why bring it up? Why bring it up? Because these days it is more important to be first than wrong, sadly. In fact the truth almost doesn't matter anymore, that is even sadder. I would love to see 6 more years of Coyle and have to believe that it would be at a bargain based on the timing and length. He hasn't done enough to get paid big and he has a lot of potential to out pace the pay he has earned thus far so yeah I would expect a bargain and I expect him to be better. Maybe also gave up some $$ for a NMC/NTC.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 27, 2019 10:53:54 GMT -5
NHL Network Analyst Ryan Whitney is "hearing that Charlie Coyle and Chris Wagner are very close to signing extensions". He goes on to say it could be 6 yrs for Coyle and 3 for Wagner (but then says "if it doesn't happen don't "chirp me". Not really sure what to make of that. You either trust your sources or you don't. If you don't, then why bring it up? Well they are both local, close friends and their families are close. It makes a lot of sense they’d like to stay. Not suggesting they’d take well below market deals but I’m sure they are motivated to stay here. The Coyles live close to where I do in town, we are off age wise so we weren’t friends but my circle has a lot of overlap with his families and to say they are massive Bruins fans would be an understatement. It’s quite literally his and his families dream for him to wear a Bruins jersey and it’s gone well so far so if there’s a fair deal one will be made. I like these stories. He can make his dream come true and get wealthy playing at home regardless of a discount. But what is his value? 3-4 million? I don't know. Is 6 years 20M good. I do know I liked the deals they got with Carlo and McAvoy, they definitely gave up something.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 27, 2019 10:56:16 GMT -5
Joe McDonald had put him (based on feedback from am agent) around 4-5.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 27, 2019 11:23:03 GMT -5
Why bring it up? Because these days it is more important to be first than wrong, sadly. In fact the truth almost doesn't matter anymore, that is even sadder. I would love to see 6 more years of Coyle and have to believe that it would be at a bargain based on the timing and length. He hasn't done enough to get paid big and he has a lot of potential to out pace the pay he has earned thus far so yeah I would expect a bargain and I expect him to be better. Maybe also gave up some $$ for a NMC/NTC. NMC/NTC ?? Am I a dummy?
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Post by texs31 on Nov 27, 2019 11:25:20 GMT -5
No Movement Clause/No Trade Clause
The former would mean he MUST be protected in the Expansion Draft.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 27, 2019 11:32:19 GMT -5
Joe McDonald had put him (based on feedback from am agent) around 4-5. 5 seems a bit much based on his career. That is what I am saying when looking at Coyle, he is more like 4 with a FV of 5+ maybe but he hasn't done it yet, IMO. I mean McAvoy is close to a #1 D and he just got 3/4.9: Carlo 2/2.85. I know they were restricted but they are worth more on the ice. I'm going to spitball 6/21-24, it is his dream and $$ is going to be tight on this team. Seems to me that the B's have many good contracts and just 1 albatross. They deserve credit for building an environment which players are willing to give up some $$ to play in.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 27, 2019 11:34:30 GMT -5
No Movement Clause/No Trade Clause The former would mean he MUST be protected in the Expansion Draft. Thank you, not too big of a dummy. Forgot about the coming expansion, the last one was a bit costly.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 27, 2019 11:43:34 GMT -5
Well they are both local, close friends and their families are close. It makes a lot of sense they’d like to stay. Not suggesting they’d take well below market deals but I’m sure they are motivated to stay here. The Coyles live close to where I do in town, we are off age wise so we weren’t friends but my circle has a lot of overlap with his families and to say they are massive Bruins fans would be an understatement. It’s quite literally his and his families dream for him to wear a Bruins jersey and it’s gone well so far so if there’s a fair deal one will be made. Whitney is local, too right? Yes, Scituate and went to BU
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 27, 2019 11:44:45 GMT -5
Well they are both local, close friends and their families are close. It makes a lot of sense they’d like to stay. Not suggesting they’d take well below market deals but I’m sure they are motivated to stay here. The Coyles live close to where I do in town, we are off age wise so we weren’t friends but my circle has a lot of overlap with his families and to say they are massive Bruins fans would be an understatement. It’s quite literally his and his families dream for him to wear a Bruins jersey and it’s gone well so far so if there’s a fair deal one will be made. I like these stories. He can make his dream come true and get wealthy playing at home regardless of a discount. But what is his value? 3-4 million? I don't know. Is 6 years 20M good. I do know I liked the deals they got with Carlo and McAvoy, they definitely gave up something. McEvoy had zero leverage due to his free agency type and Carlo was also restricted but McEvoy had even more restrictions.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 27, 2019 11:46:00 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure Coyle would get 5+ on the open market.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 27, 2019 11:52:55 GMT -5
This one could be too. I almost started a whole separate thread bc, even though it's early, the possible machinations could have impact on what DS does this season (trades/extensions) in addition to the offseason.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 27, 2019 11:54:45 GMT -5
Whitney is local, too right? Yes, Scituate and went to BU Didn't realize he was from Scituate. I live there now (grew up in RI). His "sources" then are likely local ties one would assume (and not necessarily "industry" ones) which may explain the caveat.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 27, 2019 11:56:44 GMT -5
McAvoy couldn't even receive an offer sheet per his RFA Status (he was RFA but not Group 2).
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