|
|
Post by Don Caballero on Nov 29, 2019 23:14:45 GMT -5
You have to win the gimmes. With all their injuries, this Nets team is a gimme. No you don't, you don't HAVE to win any games, we're only fighting for playoff seeds post the 3/4 point of the season. Besides, we've dealt with some bad injury luck ourselves. It would have been nice if we won, but there's not enough margin for error to withstand both Brown and Walker having poor games right now. The Knicks could give us a run for our money right now if both Brown and Walker play poorly. Once Hayward is back, I fully expect these games to be a non-issue. |
|
|
|
Post by rjp313jr on Nov 30, 2019 7:40:08 GMT -5
Also the Nets aren’t a bad team even without Kyrie and Durant. They aren’t a gimme. They’ve been on fire as well.
|
|
|
|
Post by philarhody on Nov 30, 2019 8:59:59 GMT -5
In relation to playoff seeding, games count just as much early on as they do later in the season.
The Nets didn’t have Lavert or Kyrie. Maybe I’m wrong to say it’s a gimme. But I want to see Boston handle a team like this.
|
|
|
|
Post by voiceofreason on Nov 30, 2019 15:19:53 GMT -5
The Nets played a good game and got hot deep. Now could the C's have played better D, sure but give the Nets credit too. They had 30 assists and that will win you a lot of games.
Season high in turnovers 19 and only 16 assists for the C's, that will lose you a lot of games. I would rather see Brown push thru and get more shots rather than Marcus continuing to shoot over 10 a game he is just too inefficient.
|
|
|
|
Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 30, 2019 21:31:22 GMT -5
Just when a few people almost had me convinced that Smart had become a much better shooter. Those four games were unreal. Since then the team is 3-4, Smart has shot 35.9% on 13.1 attempts and 21.7% on 6.6 three point attempts per game. Smart certainly isn't the only person to blame. Yet it still feels like less is more with him and you don't want him creating a ton of his own shots. I don't want him taking anywhere near 6.6 three's a game. Focus on passing, D, hustle plays and taking what the D gives you. Given the current lineup I want him making sure everyone gets involved.
We all knew the D would come and go during the season. Even a rather young team can't play at their best over a whole season. No Hayward does limit the firepower and makes it much harder if guys have off nights. The Nets aren't a horrible team and it was a huge trap game after just beating them the game before. Brad's still trying to figure out the roles for everyone and what the young guys can do. Just keep playing team Basketball.
|
|
|
|
Post by rjp313jr on Dec 1, 2019 6:19:28 GMT -5
Just when a few people almost had me convinced that Smart had become a much better shooter. Those four games were unreal. Since then the team is 3-4, Smart has shot 35.9% on 13.1 attempts and 21.7% on 6.6 three point attempts per game. Smart certainly is the only person to blame. Yet it still feels like less is more with him and you don't want him creating a ton of his own shots. I don't want him taking anywhere near 6.6 three's a game. Focus on passing, D, hustle plays and taking what the D gives you. Given the current lineup I want him making sure everyone gets involved. We all knew the D would come and go during the season. Even a rather young team can't play at their best over a whole season. No Hayward does limit the firepower and makes it much harder if guys have off nights. The Nets aren't a horrible team and it was a huge trap game after just beating them the game before. Brad's still trying to figure out the roles for everyone and what the young guys can do. Just keep playing team Basketball. Did you mean he “isn’t” the only person to blame or are you blaming it all on him. The 3-4 record. |
|
|
|
Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 1, 2019 11:50:27 GMT -5
Just when a few people almost had me convinced that Smart had become a much better shooter. Those four games were unreal. Since then the team is 3-4, Smart has shot 35.9% on 13.1 attempts and 21.7% on 6.6 three point attempts per game. Smart certainly is the only person to blame. Yet it still feels like less is more with him and you don't want him creating a ton of his own shots. I don't want him taking anywhere near 6.6 three's a game. Focus on passing, D, hustle plays and taking what the D gives you. Given the current lineup I want him making sure everyone gets involved. We all knew the D would come and go during the season. Even a rather young team can't play at their best over a whole season. No Hayward does limit the firepower and makes it much harder if guys have off nights. The Nets aren't a horrible team and it was a huge trap game after just beating them the game before. Brad's still trying to figure out the roles for everyone and what the young guys can do. Just keep playing team Basketball. Did you mean he “isn’t” the only person to blame or are you blaming it all on him. The 3-4 record. Yeah, darn auto correct thinks it's knows what I want better than I do. |
|
|
|
Post by voiceofreason on Dec 1, 2019 12:19:37 GMT -5
it
LOL
I think all we can hope for with Smart is that when Gordon comes back his numbers and his shots drop. He does have good court awareness so maybe Stevens just harps on him to make the extra pass, the one that leads to an assist but isn't the actual assist. I am sure coming off a game where they only had 16 assists that they will put more of a focus on that, I hope anyway.
|
|
|
|
Post by rjp313jr on Dec 1, 2019 15:28:34 GMT -5
Smart has shown to me he’s a greatly improved shooter. He’s also shown to me that his shot selection while overall better needs improvement.
|
|
wcp3
Veteran
Posts: 3,861
|
Post by wcp3 on Dec 1, 2019 16:41:31 GMT -5
NBA officiating is in really bad shape right now. That call against Jaylen was a perfect example of how the refs insert themselves into games unnecessarily. What should have been a 6-point game quickly became a 1-point game after two horrendous calls.
It may not seem like a big deal since it’s in the 2nd quarter, but those type of momentum-changing calls happen way too often these days.
|
|
wcp3
Veteran
Posts: 3,861
|
Post by wcp3 on Dec 1, 2019 16:59:28 GMT -5
What a pathetic performance. This team never starts games or halves prepared, and you have to point to the coaching staff.
Edit: That 3-guard lineup with Kemba and Edwards was ridiculous. Brad isn’t putting his players in position to succeed.
|
|
|
|
Post by voiceofreason on Dec 1, 2019 17:36:38 GMT -5
Smart was in so much pain there on the floor it looked like he was ready to puke. That's what his face was expressing.
|
|
|
|
Post by philarhody on Dec 1, 2019 17:39:13 GMT -5
Boy these refs have been brutal. Good job by NYK generating contact
|
|
|
|
Post by Don Caballero on Dec 2, 2019 0:15:53 GMT -5
Missed the game early on, but Grant Williams again a team high +17 tonight. If he can find a legit NBA offensive game then he could be pretty good.
|
|
|
|
Post by voiceofreason on Dec 3, 2019 12:06:32 GMT -5
Didn't take long for that Memphis pick to start looking good again. Should be a top 10 with a very good chance of being top 6 which I am pretty sure most would prefer for obvious reasons. But their is a caveat, I don't think a team that young can really be looking at making the playoffs in the West next year. But if they have no reason to tank they could certainly be closer to the end of the lottery vs top 10.
The best outcome might be to get a top 7-10 and add another piece and trade up. Then again they could do that the following year also. It is a nice asset to have.
On a side note it would be nice if Langford could stay healthy for a minute so Danny could get a better idea of what he has.
|
|
|
|
Post by voiceofreason on Dec 3, 2019 12:09:01 GMT -5
Missed the game early on, but Grant Williams again a team high +17 tonight. If he can find a legit NBA offensive game then he could be pretty good. He will find it but it isn't looking like he has the upside I was hoping for, hope I am wrong. He plays such a smart game you know he will get it. On the flip side Edwards needs to do the only thing he is really good at, hitting 3's in bunches. I can now see Waters having more of an impact moving forward. |
|
|
|
Post by rjp313jr on Dec 3, 2019 12:09:47 GMT -5
Missed the game early on, but Grant Williams again a team high +17 tonight. If he can find a legit NBA offensive game then he could be pretty good. He will find it but it isn't looking like he has the upside I was hoping for, hope I am wrong. He plays such a smart game you know he will get it. What kind of upside were you expecting? |
|
|
|
Post by rjp313jr on Dec 3, 2019 12:12:42 GMT -5
Didn't take long for that Memphis pick to start looking good again. Should be a top 10 with a very good chance of being top 6 which I am pretty sure most would prefer for obvious reasons. But their is a caveat, I don't think a team that young can really be looking at making the playoffs in the West next year. But if they have no reason to tank they could certainly be closer to the end of the lottery vs top 10. The best outcome might be to get a top 7-10 and add another piece and trade up. Then again they could do that the following year also. It is a nice asset to have. On a side note it would be nice if Langford could stay healthy for a minute so Danny could get a better idea of what he has. Is take the chances next year... young teams are so volatile. One Morant injury away from purgatory and he plays pretty recklessly... also, look at the Hawks... i expected a nice jump from them this year and they are on the way to a top 3 pick. |
|
|
|
Post by texs31 on Dec 3, 2019 12:31:51 GMT -5
Collins being out (much like your Ja example) is not ideal.
|
|
|
|
Post by rjp313jr on Dec 3, 2019 12:47:33 GMT -5
True it’s a huge loss
|
|
|
|
Post by voiceofreason on Dec 3, 2019 13:50:20 GMT -5
He will find it but it isn't looking like he has the upside I was hoping for, hope I am wrong. He plays such a smart game you know he will get it. What kind of upside were you expecting? I expected him to be a guy that earned playing time with his overall game, which he has, then someone put a lid over the basket on his shots and he shot less than 20% for the month of November. So even when your doing a lot of good things on the court it is hard to keep earning minutes at a 19.5 FG% not to mention 0 for the season from 3. I would say I didn't expect the rim to have a force field blocking his shots, so I think his shooting will improve and the rim will loosen. Is that sarcastic enough? |
|
|
|
Post by voiceofreason on Dec 3, 2019 13:59:18 GMT -5
Agree with both of you and I thought the same thing when thinking about Memphis. Trae Young might not be Morant but he is very good and look at Atlanta this year, then the thought of Collins being out would be like Memphis losing Jackson so it was a wash kind of. Still though will a top rookie along with sophomore Morant and Collins create a good team in the West, probably not but with other teams tanking and them going all out they could be close. Also with no pick the front office could go out and get some decent vets to help the young guys.
All considered we are hoping for the unprotected pick in 2021.
|
|
|
|
Post by texs31 on Dec 3, 2019 15:00:16 GMT -5
If he didn't try and shoot 3s, he'd be okay (14/54 overall, 0/22 behind the arc). I know that's something they'd like him to do but it seems like working on it during the game is . . . problematic.
Not sure where his 2FGA are.
|
|
|
|
Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 3, 2019 15:58:18 GMT -5
The Grizz pick is currently tied for 6th, which is the protection level. They have also lowered their point differential from worst to 5th worst. Lost to Clippers and Lakers by 3 points recently. One win away from the odds being very good that we get it. That's the big killer, the new lottery odds really change things. They can finish in 5th or 6th and we still could easily get it or they could finish 8th and jump up and we don't get it.
Still think it comes down to second half of the year, when other teams start to tank. They didn't tank till the last few games and we almost got the pick last year because of it.
|
|
|
|
Post by voiceofreason on Dec 3, 2019 16:29:04 GMT -5
If he didn't try and shoot 3s, he'd be okay (14/54 overall, 0/22 behind the arc). I know that's something they'd like him to do but it seems like working on it during the game is . . . problematic. Not sure where his 2FGA are. From what I have seen most of his shots are in the paint and just not falling, similar to Tatum. But yeah maybe he should be working on that more in practice, which he probably is. Thing is the shots he takes from 3 are in the flow and usually wide open, kind of like he has to take it. |
|
