2019-20 Boston Celtics Season

Ok so with JB and Tatum I will agree but getting the 13th pick from Sac. was bad luck. Romeo dropping was good luck but that has yet to play out. He looks good from what little we have seen but fact is we have seen very little and he has been injury prone so far. We can hope for the best for sure.

Len Bias
Reggie Lewis
Tim Duncan
Kevin Durant

Just to name a few that were very bad luck. The C's went over 25 years having zero luck when it came to the ping pong balls and we can count on 1 hand the number of all stars that were drafted since Kevin McHale in 1980. C's have drafted 3 players who went to all star games since 1980 and that includes the current roster. Hopefully that will change soon. Their are your snakes.

AND who would have thought Memphis would be doing this? One more snake for you.

It'll still be a top 10 pick imo, but the value of the pick is plummeting by the day. It's going to convey unless Memphis hits a lottery ball. That would also not be ideal either because that'll mean Memphis will have had 2 lottery balls in the last two years and they could be really decent if that happens. So they're unprotected pick next year if it happened would also lose value.

The Celtics are probably going to trade this pick. I'd almost bank on that happening.

If the Celtics keep that pick, at best it'll be a draft and stash guy. They just don't have the room on the roster for more draft picks to come through. They're only losing Kanter this free agency, and the Celtics will probably want to bring him back, to be honest.

Really struggling to see who they would trade that pick for. You don't trade it for a expiring contract.

Meanwhile, as far as their being no room . . . not sure about that. Counting the 2-way guys and the projected picks, there are 19 "players" up for spots:

1. Fall will likely get no more than another 2-Way deal
2. Wanamaker is RFA and is earning himself some money/time but is that necessarily with Boston (if no injuries, is he in the rotation?). Would his minutes be better served to Edwards (hopefully with more confidence next year), Waters and/or Langford?
3. As indicted previously, Green has been a fun story but is his Non-Guaranteed contract REALLY getting in the way of adding a higher-end prospect?
4. Poirier isn't getting in the way of a higher-end prospect. His deal is guaranteed but . . .
5. C's have an option on Ojeleye and he has played well at points. But he's also recorded some DNP-CDs. He is what he is and may be redundant to GWill.
6. I think it's more likely that Boston uses one of the lower picks (Milwaukee's or their own) along with a player (some of the above mentioned guys perhaps) to trade this deadline (a shooter?)
7. I'm very interested in what happens with Hayward. If he stays healthy and productive for the rest of the year, will he opt out? If he DOES opt out, to what end? He could lower his cap number with Boston in exchange for more years (what we thought Horford would do) or could he think he's worth another big deal (albeit less than max). OR, does he think his C's career has been one big Karma A## Kicking and decide he needs a fresh start. I think he's leaving which is why it's last on the list but few thought Al was leaving and look what happened.

It's just not going to surprise me 1 bit if the rotation looks like:

Walker/Smart/Waters
Brown/Edwards
Theis/RWilliams/Kanter
Hayward/GWill
Tatum/Langford

With Mem and either Bos/Mil as the development guys and Tacko and a 2nd rounder or Camp Guy as 2-Ways

That being said, this draft would seem to be a better 1 for draft-and-stash candidates in that late lottery range. Killian Hayes, RJ Hampton, Theo Maledon are right there so Boston wouldn't have to drop in talent to take a guy that they could leave overseas.

If you get 4 cracks at high lottery picks and you end up at 1, 3, 13 and between 8-13 then I think you made out really well. If you got 3 top 3 picks that’d just be unreal positive luck.

What are you using for Hayward and Tatums salaries and like I said I think Kanter will earn a raise or opt out.

Sure but opportunities open up as the years go on (injuries, players leaving, etc). Their roster will be so top heavy with Kemba, Jaylen, Jayson and maybe even Hayward, that high end talent at a much cheaper price will be critical for depth and to keep it going as players start to age and become FAs.

In terms of stashing, a lotto pick is not going to want to be stashed for multiple years (unless it's Fran Vazquez) so THAT option isn't helping either.

Now, if you're saying that they may trade the pick come draft time (when they know what it is and more players may become available) or at a point in the offseason (before or after the player has signed), that might make more sense (I hadn't considered that when I first replied).

FORGOT!! That the ext wouldn't count til the following yr, my bad.

Oh look, another game where Brad doesn’t have his team even remotely ready to play.

I dont agree entirely. We tend to assume that when a player opts out, it's to get a bigger contract (cap hit). But that's not always the case.

However this season ends for him, he could look to get more total money (spread across more years) in exchange for 1 yr and the uncertainty that comes.

For example, if he stays healthy and performs as he has when hes played this year, I think a multi year deal at 20-25 is a no brainer. With opt outs, that could be more desirable to him than the 1 yr at max level plus the uncertain future.

Let's say its 3 yrs at about 20 per with the 3rd being another ETO. That guarantees him 60 with the ability to hit the market only 1 yr later than "planned" if he comes back fully. If hes still not the player he was, hes still made more money.

True but a lot of teams will hoard cap space this summer to have it for next year so there will be stupid contracts handed out by the losers.

The Celtic have 10 assists with 4 minutes left in the 3rd... ooof