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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 17, 2020 17:30:44 GMT -5
It's about stopping the spread which is being caused by humans. That can be done, but to get there you need to control the cases. Look at South Korea, 60 million people in a small area. It isn't gone, but they can control the spread of it. Given the recent antibody tests, if the plan is to just reopen everything then in a few months we'll be right back to square one again. If you have over a 1,000 known cases in Mass right now there are many more unknown. Yet you also have some towns with zero cases like my town of Windsor. I get the economy part trust me, yet reopening too soon will be worse if you then need to shutdown everything again to flatten a curve. Chinese messed up a lot of things, but them basically locking people in their houses was much more effective then what we are doing. It's not gone, but it's a lot better than we currently are also. Has there ever been an instance in human history where we eliminated an airborne virus without a vaccine? Stopping the spread entirely seems like an unrealistic expectation. Summer is when airborne viruses have the lowest instance of infection, so it makes sense to open football training camps and everything else. Clamp back down next winter if things get worse, but now is the time to up our herd immunity. It's not an airborne virus. It's human to human. Sure it can linger in the air for short periods, more so in confined spaces. Yet it's not a true airborne virus that can travel miles in the air. I never said eliminate, I said stop the spread as other Countries have done. That can be done, get your cases low before reopening. Italy got it's cases for the whole country to about 500 a day before they started reopening. Massachusetts had over 1,500 new cases alone yesterday. We haven't stopped the spread with our lockdowns like other Countries have. Your plan is sound if they actually used the two month lockdown to stop the spread, they haven't though. We complain about 25% unemployment yet that just shows we never really locked down anything. We've been flattening the curve, while other Countries actually stop the spread of Covid. It isn't gone South Korea just had a 100 case outbreak. Yet they can throw everything at 100 cases, while Mass has 1,500 before we reopen. It makes zero sense, warm weather doesn't stop human to human spread. |
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Post by texs31 on May 20, 2020 9:29:18 GMT -5
Chung signed to an extension which will create 925 in room (enough to fit Dugger).
Didn't think that was one of the ways they'd do this tbh but there it is. No need not to have KD wrapped up fairly soon.
EDIT - so if we add the 925 into Miguel's 630,880 in cap room, that's $1,555,880 in room. Dugger's hit will be 1.49 so that will put their Cap Room at about $66K. In other words, more moves to come.
EDIT 2 - I should probably just stop. Dugger's "hit" of 1.49 is independent of the top 51 rule. Given that rule, it'll actually be ~904 (replacing Froholdt in the top 51). So the remaining cap room would be about $650K.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 21, 2020 11:16:30 GMT -5
Current plan is a full season and full preseason. While they are still working out details, the current plan won't stop action if a couple players get Covid.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 21, 2020 17:48:56 GMT -5
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Post by voiceofreason on May 22, 2020 7:46:08 GMT -5
Those are great stats for him but look at the Pats secondary as a wholes stats, #1 in just about every category. That is a reason for optimism in the Pats this season, especially with teams having less offseason practice time to get their offenses ready. Yes the McCourtys are getting old but the overall experience of that group coupled with Phillips, Duggers and Williams still looks elite. and their experience is a big deal. So they need guys to step up and make sure their is pressure on the pocket, maybe Uche and Jennings but Winovich is the guy that should really jump this year, I hope. A really strong D along with what could be an elite Oline with everyone healthy and in their prime gives me reason to be optimistic. I know Cannon isn't elite or young anymore but he isn't really a weak link and maybe Yodney is ready to step in. If they can run the ball and protect the pocket this could be a surprising team. It might take a year but I like what I see and they could be very good in 2021. |
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Post by texs31 on May 22, 2020 10:48:18 GMT -5
Vote next week on 2 changes to IR-DTR. One would increase to 3 players per season. The 2nd is an interesting and impactful one. Voting to make players put on IR during cutdown to 53 be eligible.
Players needing to be on first 53 have impacted them the last 2 years. Cant remember who they cut but do recall that Dawson made the original 53 before being put on IR a day or 2 later.
Last year, Harry was kept on initial 53 before going to IR soon thereafter.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 22, 2020 11:33:28 GMT -5
Those are great stats for him but look at the Pats secondary as a wholes stats, #1 in just about every category. That is a reason for optimism in the Pats this season, especially with teams having less offseason practice time to get their offenses ready. Yes the McCourtys are getting old but the overall experience of that group coupled with Phillips, Duggers and Williams still looks elite. and their experience is a big deal. So they need guys to step up and make sure their is pressure on the pocket, maybe Uche and Jennings but Winovich is the guy that should really jump this year, I hope. A really strong D along with what could be an elite Oline with everyone healthy and in their prime gives me reason to be optimistic. I know Cannon isn't elite or young anymore but he isn't really a weak link and maybe Yodney is ready to step in. If they can run the ball and protect the pocket this could be a surprising team. It might take a year but I like what I see and they could be very good in 2021. The talent is there for the D to be crazy elite. A little risky because it involves some new guys, yet Bill seems to be trying to fix last year's issues with the run D. Many thought that meant better D line. Yet Bill seems to have focused on adding speed and getting more chess pieces. Brought in smaller faster LBs, very unlike him. Out with Harmon, in with Phillips and Duggar, guys known as good box safeties. It's crazy fun watching him tweak his new 3-4 hybrid defense. If Jackson can get better at run D he could become an elite guy in a few years. He's darn bad it right now. Yodney is a key guy. If he's the guy his draft report said, a starting level OT, our depth is ten times better than last year. If not for his injury, he could have went 2nd round last year. The whole 2018 class could play a huge role. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 22, 2020 11:34:26 GMT -5
Vote next week on 2 changes to IR-DTR. One would increase to 3 players per season. The 2nd is an interesting and impactful one. Voting to make players put on IR during cutdown to 53 be eligible. Players needing to be on first 53 have impacted them the last 2 years. Cant remember who they cut but do recall that Dawson made the original 53 before being put on IR a day or 2 later. Last year, Harry was kept on initial 53 before going to IR soon thereafter. That would be huge if you could IR guys before final 53 and bring them back. |
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Post by texs31 on May 24, 2020 20:13:19 GMT -5
Reiss reporting that Joejuan Williams is prepping for a hybrid CB/S role this season.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 25, 2020 14:26:44 GMT -5
When Harmon was traded it seemed that was a big reason. Save money, yet also get Williams a role and playing time. Then they took Duggar and then extended Chung yet again. Granted that isn't huge at his money level. My point being I sure hope they have a role for both. I want both playing semi big roles. That's what you need from high picks. Yet I kinda struggle to see how you play both unless injuries play a big role. I guess it's a good problem, yet it's kinda a big problem for two second round picks.
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Post by texs31 on May 27, 2020 14:57:44 GMT -5
Reiss reporting that Joejuan Williams is prepping for a hybrid CB/S role this season. Based on some comments by J-Mac, seems like there are a number of DBs who are working on positional versatility. |
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Post by texs31 on May 28, 2020 14:33:39 GMT -5
Vote next week on 2 changes to IR-DTR. One would increase to 3 players per season. The 2nd is an interesting and impactful one. Voting to make players put on IR during cutdown to 53 be eligible. Players needing to be on first 53 have impacted them the last 2 years. Cant remember who they cut but do recall that Dawson made the original 53 before being put on IR a day or 2 later. Last year, Harry was kept on initial 53 before going to IR soon thereafter. That would be huge if you could IR guys before final 53 and bring them back. While the increase in DTR players from 2 to 3 DID pass, it appears that they will still need to make the original 53. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Jun 11, 2020 12:32:59 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 24, 2020 11:08:49 GMT -5
I have to say I'm more than a little upset watching Brady put in all this extra time on a new team after not doing that here for years. To make matters worse, he's doing it during a Pandemic. Makes you wonder how last year would have turned out if Brady put in the extra work with guys like Meyers and Harry. Instead he took time off for his family and demanded we go after Brown.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 28, 2020 19:12:56 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 28, 2020 19:41:33 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 28, 2020 19:50:38 GMT -5
Dumb and dumber
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 28, 2020 22:06:02 GMT -5
As long as it's a come in and let's see what you do deal I have zero issues with it. It's just depth and who knows if he even makes the team. I like Stidham, but who knows how much work he can put in this year and it's a former MVP. We now have great depth at QB.
Most teams likely get a small fine, yet given our history that isn't crazy.
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Post by ryan24 on Jun 29, 2020 6:14:15 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how this signing of Newton works out. Stidham certainly knows the system. That is an advantage. Newton certainly has the experience. That's an advantage. I wonder if they put in packages just for Newton to take advantage of. Stidham is injury free and Newton comes in with an injury history. What does Newton have left in the tank. How will he work with Josh and the offensive schemes. What does the depth chart look like now? I do not think that Newton would come in without some expectations of playing. Not saying how much that is. Wonder if any of the EXPERTS who forecasted win loss totals will change their minds? Actually as far as the fine goes, I am surprised that it was so small a penalty. It seems like every couple of years the pats get caught doing something like this. I guess Kraft still has some juice with Goodell. I would think with this not being the first, the second, or the third that a bigger fine and more picks would be lost, but what do I know.
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Post by ryan24 on Jun 29, 2020 6:38:31 GMT -5
What effect on the offense does Dante's retirement have? Coached the o line for a lot of years. I am sure that it is the same philosophy just a different person teaching it and can they make adjustments during the game that will have the same results. Not expecting any major problems, just another change made this season.
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Post by ryan24 on Jun 29, 2020 6:46:38 GMT -5
I have to say I'm more than a little upset watching Brady put in all this extra time on a new team after not doing that here for years. To make matters worse, he's doing it during a Pandemic. Makes you wonder how last year would have turned out if Brady put in the extra work with guys like Meyers and Harry. Instead he took time off for his family and demanded we go after Brown. Sometimes people just get burned out doing the same job in the same place. It appears that Tom needed a change of scenery. I also think it is a theme that has been mentioned way back months ago. Tom and Bill want to show that they do not need the other to win a title. Pretty harsh words for the guy who won 6 titles for the pats. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 29, 2020 8:42:35 GMT -5
Does Stidham know the system? He definitely knows the terminology, but both he and Newton are mobile QBs. My guess is the system is very different with either of them than it was with Brady. As it should be.. Brady is the best ever but his offense was about timing which made it very hard to stop but also very hard to execute.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 29, 2020 10:48:36 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how this signing of Newton works out. Stidham certainly knows the system. That is an advantage. Newton certainly has the experience. That's an advantage. I wonder if they put in packages just for Newton to take advantage of. Stidham is injury free and Newton comes in with an injury history. What does Newton have left in the tank. How will he work with Josh and the offensive schemes. What does the depth chart look like now? I do not think that Newton would come in without some expectations of playing. Not saying how much that is. Wonder if any of the EXPERTS who forecasted win loss totals will change their minds? Actually as far as the fine goes, I am surprised that it was so small a penalty. It seems like every couple of years the pats get caught doing something like this. I guess Kraft still has some juice with Goodell. I would think with this not being the first, the second, or the third that a bigger fine and more picks would be lost, but what do I know. Any other team given what happen likely get something like a $250,000 fine and doesn't lose a pick. So 1.1 million and a third is a huge jump up. Remember they found it was just a mistake, it wasn't them trying to break the rules and get an advantage. That would have been huge, likely Bill suspended for a year, loss of two first round picks and a 5-10 million fine. Kraft has zero juice when it comes to Goodel and punishment for breaking rules. If anything they have been treated worse than they should. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 29, 2020 11:06:00 GMT -5
I have to say I'm more than a little upset watching Brady put in all this extra time on a new team after not doing that here for years. To make matters worse, he's doing it during a Pandemic. Makes you wonder how last year would have turned out if Brady put in the extra work with guys like Meyers and Harry. Instead he took time off for his family and demanded we go after Brown. Sometimes people just get burned out doing the same job in the same place. It appears that Tom needed a change of scenery. I also think it is a theme that has been mentioned way back months ago. Tom and Bill want to show that they do not need the other to win a title. Pretty harsh words for the guy who won 6 titles for the pats. Maybe that is the case, yet that's not what Brady has said and we have stories he's told to back it up. He did it for his family. Go search the web, you'll find a bunch straight from his mouth. Now because he wants to prove something, his family isn't this huge concern. That's his decision, yet acting like we can't be upset because of the past is kinda crazy. It's come from former Patriots, that said Tom wouldn't put in the time with young guys. As a Patriot fan I frankly don't know how you can't be upset. They draft a first round WR for the first time in the Brady era and he wants no part of him! He's older, were in the middle of a Pandemic and he's doing things he hasn't done in years for his legacy that he wouldn't do for our team. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 29, 2020 11:26:30 GMT -5
Does Stidham know the system? He definitely knows the terminology, but both he and Newton are mobile QBs. My guess is the system is very different with either of them than it was with Brady. As it should be.. Brady is the best ever but his offense was about timing which made it very hard to stop but also very hard to execute. Yeah reports have made it seem he knows the system and picked it up crazy fast. Yet he also doesn't have any experience. The question is what does training camp look like? Are their preseason games and joint practices? How quickly can Newton pick up the system? Maybe I'm wrong, but I have this feeling that this took this long because Newton wanted to be the starter. Bill wouldn't give him that, so he settled for a chance to start. I still think Bill wants Stidham to start, yet couldn't resist a backup plan as good as Newton given the current unknowns. |
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