2020 Celtics Offseason

Agreed. I think we get too hung up on the wording of the rumors and forget that, like a game of telephone, the message can get changed slightly as it passes along the chain of communication (from someone with direct knowledge, through some number of sources, to the person 1st reporting the rumor, to any subsequent reports that follow up citing 1st reporters work).

We'll never know what the report is based off of but if we could, and any of the following were the case, none would make the rumor false:

- Danny is actually calling teams, offering up all 3 picks to move up now.
- If OO IS the target, Danny calling up 1 team specifically (Charlotte? I only say that bc there is rumor that if Wiseman isn't available, he's their guy) and asking if they'd make the deal now.
- Danny asking around to see if, when the time comes, anyone would be interested in a 3-for-1 pick swap.
- Danny indicating a general willingness to move all 3 to move up but not actually making an offer (granted, this would be the furthest from the report but I don't believe many in the "insider" world would count this as a miss).

FWIW, Zach Lowe also reported that he's hearing Danny is "offering" (again, let's use a BROAD interpretation here) picks targeting veteran players as well.

I 100% believe Danny is seeing what's out there. I don't believe the reports that make it sound like he's trying to get a pick before the draft. As Texas said if it's just the message is getting slightly blurred okay that makes sense.

It's not a surprise, Danny does this every year. He always looks at his options. It's why we always have so many rumors.

I also don't buy that Danny is letting people know who he wants. He's never once done that. He always shows interest in multiple players and keeps you guessing.

I just said word is it’s him. There’s next to zero chance that info is coming from Danny. It’s likely an educated guess based off a variety of things. It does make the most sense though.

That's fair. I had seen the report from Kevin O'Connor (who I think is very good) but didn't read the detail. Had assumed it was more than just connecting the dots but maybe not.

This reaction is why I found it funny. If not for you I wouldn’t have.

Nope, yet I haven't really studied the top guys a ton. Yet I really think this draft is like that Tatum draft minus Tatum. Where two of the best players went 13 and 14, plus some great players latter in the first.

Wiggins does nothing for us, yet if Danny sees a Tatum at #2 sure. Yet highly unlikely. If the Warriors want to use the #2 pick and Wiggins they can likely get a lot better player than Hayward. Yet the Warriors are also a team that could really use depth.

www.theringer.com/2018/3/22/17149150/robert-williams-texas-am-sweet-16

Just a little something to compare Robert Williams to the current guys. We are just starting to see the defensive monster that can guard smaller players. You started to see the Raptor guards want no part of driving on him as that series played out. He's improved his FT shooting and has added a nice looking jumper. He's still learning overall team D, yet he's only played in 61 regular season games.

Bigs always take more time to develop and so far Williams had made a massive leap. Which is what you want to see.

I don't agree at all. Robert Williams is a good defender right now that makes some mistakes. Yet the good easily still outweighs the bad, just look at his numbers. His defensive rating numbers are darn good. He's not close to a Kanter, a guy that gives up tons of easy baskets. Williams also blocks shots and takes away baskets. His defense is night and day compared to his rookie year. Yes he still has a way to go, yet imagine his numbers when he actually has everything down? He could literally be the best defender in whole league, a more mobile version of Gobert.

Now his offensive improvements might be more important because he's not a zero now and you can actually play him more minutes. He just needs more time, because only Smart had lobs down with him. You could tell he hadn't played or practiced with the starters much. They didn't know how to use him, that will change.

We already have a rim running defensive monster. Remember it took Bam three years to become the player he is. Even if you draft a guy, it's going to take time.

The narrative was overblown with Robert Williams. Which is an important part to remember. This time of year people will do that, focus on a negative and make it seem much worse than it is. It's not like Robert Williams matured overnight. The guy missed one meeting and has been a model player for two years.

His defensive rating number is literally the worst on the team.

While his offensive rating was the second highest between Kemba and Tatum.

I really like him a lot and pray he can stay healthy but right now he hurts you defensively when he plays big minutes. We’ve all see him come in and dominate and give spurts of elite game changing defense. But the whole of it is bad but should change as he stops hunting and learns rotations

Are you thinking his lower number means worst? Offensive rating, higher the better, defensive lower the better. It's point allowed per 100 possessions and points scored per 100.

He's #1 on the team regular season in defensive rating, #1 in defensive box score. In the post season he was #2 to only Tatum in defensive rating and I think #4 in defensive box score with Tatum, Wanamaker and Grant Williams. I'm not counting your boy Falls 30 minutes, yet if you wanted to technically he'd be number one in the regular season.

Now part of that is Stevens picking the right spots to play him and limited minutes. Yet his overall D is already good when you look at the net ratings. Yeah he makes mistakes, yet he also does a bunch of good things. One the bigger ones is block shots, which does wonders for a D. We literally got to see that in the playoffs. His elite rebounding takes away extra possessions that was a big problem with Theis. 

I would really appreciate if people would stop mocking Precious Achiuwa to the Celtics.