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Post by texs31 on Nov 20, 2020 19:59:12 GMT -5
Saw a brief clip of Perk and Mannix talking about Turner. Perk implies that he thinks Turner is soft. Who doesn’t Perk think is soft? Ha! In full disclosure, the comment was as a comparison to Aaron Baynes. Draper made a comment about both shooting 3s and KP said something to the effect of "Yah but the difference is nobody would call Aaron Baynes soft". So I took that to mean either he thinks he is or hears other people calling him soft. Or both. |
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Nov 20, 2020 20:07:48 GMT -5
On top of that, the fact that Kanter was signed and traded for an already bare thread position to me makes it obvious they are working with Hayward. So they can trade him so he can go home and to a team that will be at least competitive as the other 2 teams that have interest and room will not contend in a best case scenario for at least several years. It's not a question if a sign and trade happens with Indy it's when and the center piece coming back appears to be Turner. Honestly whether I'm right or wrong we'll have to wait and see but what other possible conclusion can a reasonable person reach? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 20, 2020 20:11:35 GMT -5
On top of that, the fact that Kanter was signed and traded for an already bare thread position to me makes it obvious they are working with Hayward. So they can trade him so he can go home and to a team that will be at least competitive as the other 2 teams that have interest and room will not contend in a best case scenario for at least several years. It's not a question if a sign and trade happens with Indy it's when and the center piece coming back appears to be Turner. Honestly whether I'm right or wrong we'll have to wait and see but what other possible conclusion can a reasonable person reach? Don't ask me, I'm not rational with Turner! I've been pounding the table for him for a long time. He's the perfect fit in my book. |
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Post by texs31 on Nov 20, 2020 20:17:35 GMT -5
I wonder in if Theis would go in the other direction. If RWill and GWill are still in the long term plans and Turner is brought in, is there room for Theis?
Given RWills injury history, Danny and Brad may want the depth bit DT, trying to earn a contract, may not love that mix.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 20, 2020 20:21:18 GMT -5
On top of that, the fact that Kanter was signed and traded for an already bare thread position to me makes it obvious they are working with Hayward. So they can trade him so he can go home and to a team that will be at least competitive as the other 2 teams that have interest and room will not contend in a best case scenario for at least several years. It's not a question if a sign and trade happens with Indy it's when and the center piece coming back appears to be Turner. Honestly whether I'm right or wrong we'll have to wait and see but what other possible conclusion can a reasonable person reach? Don't ask me, I'm not rational with Turner! I've been pounding the table for him for a long time. He's the perfect fit in my book. Not sure your desire for Turner is irrational. Not at all IMO. I DO wonder if he ends up the 4th or even 5th option in the offense depending on who replaces Hayward in the starting 5. IF so, can he do enough to warrant the salary? Thatd be the concern for me. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 20, 2020 20:36:18 GMT -5
Free agent F Danilo Gallinari is finalizing a three-year, $61.5M contract with the Atlanta Hawks, his agent Michael Tellem of CAA Sports tells ESPN.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 20, 2020 20:37:21 GMT -5
Dwight Howard signing with Philly
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 20, 2020 20:55:38 GMT -5
Rumors are Hayward could be going to Knicks for 3/70... this either sucks or is just his camp making Danny pull the trigger.
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Post by mobaz on Nov 20, 2020 20:57:26 GMT -5
Christian Wood 3/$27m to the Rockets. Must be mid-level money. Much lower than expected, especially so fast
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 20, 2020 20:59:48 GMT -5
We lost our chance at getting Wood
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Post by mobaz on Nov 20, 2020 21:06:55 GMT -5
Christian Wood 3/$27m to the Rockets. Must be mid-level money. Much lower than expected, especially so fast Now Shams says not a done deal |
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Nov 20, 2020 21:17:38 GMT -5
Rumors are Hayward could be going to Knicks for 3/70... this either sucks or is just his camp making Danny pull the trigger. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 20, 2020 23:21:31 GMT -5
Joe Harris got four years 75 million. Like wow.
Wood's got 3 years 41 million from Houston in a sign and trade.
Guys are flying off the table, Danny better not take too long!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 20, 2020 23:24:16 GMT -5
Don't ask me, I'm not rational with Turner! I've been pounding the table for him for a long time. He's the perfect fit in my book. Not sure your desire for Turner is irrational. Not at all IMO. I DO wonder if he ends up the 4th or even 5th option in the offense depending on who replaces Hayward in the starting 5. IF so, can he do enough to warrant the salary? Thatd be the concern for me. That's why I love him, he's perfect for that role. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 20, 2020 23:27:33 GMT -5
I wonder in if Theis would go in the other direction. If RWill and GWill are still in the long term plans and Turner is brought in, is there room for Theis? Given RWills injury history, Danny and Brad may want the depth bit DT, trying to earn a contract, may not love that mix. If Theis is going to Pacers that might explain Danny wanting more. I get Theis might not be happy, yet I'd keep him. That gives you three centers, Grant Williams isn't a center. Unless he's signing a guy like Giles |
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 21, 2020 0:29:33 GMT -5
Please don't start the next season with Theis under center. Please Danny. I've been asking you this for the past few years, BUT THIS TIME I'M NOT ASKING NICE!
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 21, 2020 7:22:24 GMT -5
The Pistons man.. they are something... Jerami Grant inked a three-year, $60 million with Detroit that, amazingly, the Nuggets apparently were willing to match. But Grant preferred the opportunity to be more prominently featured in Detroit and flew the coop. Detroit went all in to get the Nuggets’ fourth-best player, waiving the recently acquired Dewayne Dedmon and Rodney McGruder and incurring an additional $3.7 million cap charge each of the next five seasons. theathletic.com/2211044/2020/11/20/nba-free-agency-rumors-what-john-hollinger-is-hearing/ |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 21, 2020 7:24:39 GMT -5
So that means Dedmon is a free agent.
I half respect Detroit for not just completely tanking as that’s lousy but spending crazy money, on longer term contracts for bad to average players is crazier.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 21, 2020 7:29:22 GMT -5
Wood went to Houston in a sign and trade - his contract was 3/41 not sure what went from Houston to Detroit for that move.
Read Holingers whole piece on Detroit in that link and it will leave you baffled beyond belief, if you aren’t already. What a dumpster fire... they must just make moves one at a time without planning
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 21, 2020 8:23:30 GMT -5
 It feels like Atlanta is out on Hayward but them and NY are the only two teams who can sign him at this point. Watch those teams to see if they use cap space, if they use it, not on Hayward, then the leverage is gone. I need to check out who is still available for the Celtics to use their FMLE on if they have it. Let’s say they have it and they get Turner back... would they still want to try and use it on Ibaka? |
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Nov 21, 2020 8:57:41 GMT -5
 It’s clear Danny doesn’t want Turner What am I missing? Same here, I know you didn't write it but, how can someone interpret that Danny does not want Turner out of that? |
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Nov 21, 2020 9:17:32 GMT -5
It feels like Atlanta is out on Hayward but them and NY are the only two teams who can sign him at this point. Watch those teams to see if they use cap space, if they use it, not on Hayward, then the leverage is gone. I need to check out who is still available for the Celtics to use their FMLE on if they have it. Let’s say they have it and they get Turner back... would they still want to try and use it on Ibaka? Ibaka seems like the best choice whether it's Hayward or Turner here next year. I wonder how many teams can offer Ibaka the full mid level exception? Probably a lot. He'll have a few teams to pick from. Back up plan should be old friend Aaron Baynes. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 21, 2020 9:24:08 GMT -5
Joe Harris got four years 75 million. Like wow. Wood's got 3 years 41 million from Houston in a sign and trade. Guys are flying off the table, Danny better not take too long! This Is an overpay but the Nets are at the point where an over-pay to keep a guy with bird rights does make sense and Joe Harris is a perfect complementary player as a guy who’s a knock down shooter and doesn’t need a lot of touches. Also, gives them salary for trades down the road so I get it. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 21, 2020 9:24:59 GMT -5
Same here, I know you didn't write it but, how can someone interpret that Danny does not want Turner out of that? I explained this above |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 21, 2020 9:29:28 GMT -5
It feels like Atlanta is out on Hayward but them and NY are the only two teams who can sign him at this point. Watch those teams to see if they use cap space, if they use it, not on Hayward, then the leverage is gone. I need to check out who is still available for the Celtics to use their FMLE on if they have it. Let’s say they have it and they get Turner back... would they still want to try and use it on Ibaka? Ibaka seems like the best choice whether it's Hayward or Turner here next year. I wonder how many teams can offer Ibaka the full mid level exception? Probably a lot. He'll have a few teams to pick from. Back up plan should be old friend Aaron Baynes. If they trade for Turner without shipping out Theis, I don’t see Ibakas fit here.... also Toronto can resign him for more than midlevel money with bird rights. If we get Turner and keep Theis, I think Giles makes more sense to bring in. They can split the full midlevel between Giles and Wannamaker. |
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