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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 15, 2020 21:57:21 GMT -5
Hard to tell much given the lineups, I mean you had Pritchard, Edwards and Waters playing together.
I like Pritchard and Nesmith bombing away. Nesmith looks smaller than on tape bulk wise, yet also looked more explosive. So that's a plus.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 15, 2020 22:00:45 GMT -5
Pritchard's shot looked as advertised tonight. Nesmith had a nice block from behind. Watching the last 10 minutes made me realize how redundant so many of these guys are right now. Are Waters or Edwards relevant anymore? Waters is a solid PG that can run a team, he's solid as a two way guy. Edwards has yet to show me anything. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 16, 2020 5:55:55 GMT -5
Like UMass said, hard to tell too much from preseason but it’s better than what we have and I was encouraged by Nesmith and Pritchard. Nesmith looks like he can be more than just a shooter.
Liked what I saw from Pritchard too but his over dribbling stood out to me. That being said he got into the lane regularly off the dribble, showed a variety of ways he can get a shot off and finish in there against bigger opponents, despite being below the rim, and was overall effective. He had a couple turnovers in a row off bad passes to Tacko that he couldn’t handle. I’ll chalk that up to him not knowing a new teammates lack of ability. Those passes to Williams are likely handled but it’s your job as a PG to know who you’re passing to and set them up the right way.
Grant Williams had one drive to the hoop that must’ve made UMass happy.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 16, 2020 5:56:31 GMT -5
Teague looked like he can still finish in a variety of ways.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 16, 2020 6:10:23 GMT -5
Again, not going to look into things much from last night but saw the same stuff that I saw from Rob Williams last year. A player who has a ton to like but gets out of position on defense chasing blocks. I think Tristian Thompson will help him a lot on that front. Williams has already proven to be a hard worker and someone who pays attention to vets (see his comments on Horford and Baynes from his rookie year). If he learns how to play like Thompson but with his athletic ability and skills then we can see a beasts emerge. Add: I should have read this first... theathletic.com/2264570/2020/12/16/robert-williams-joel-embiid-celtics/“These were the same kinds of reads Williams was messing up a year ago, and to still be in this spot of his development curve entering Year 3 is a real concern. But considering how few games he has played in his career, maybe more regular playing time this season will lead to more rapid growth. “ |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 16, 2020 7:08:05 GMT -5
James Harden....  |
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 16, 2020 8:19:22 GMT -5
One take away from last night is that Tatum looks bigger all the way around, just bigger like he is a man. Should translate as time goes by, a true power forward.
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Post by ianrs on Dec 16, 2020 9:17:42 GMT -5
I was really down on the Pritchard pick and i know it's preseason but I think he ends up actually being a steal and its very important he can play and compete right away with Kemba out.
I also like Tremonts game but hes just so small and his shot is meh, unless that improves hes a fringe guy.
Carsen should go to Europe unfortunately.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 16, 2020 9:47:26 GMT -5
Like UMass said, hard to tell too much from preseason but it’s better than what we have and I was encouraged by Nesmith and Pritchard. Nesmith looks like he can be more than just a shooter. Liked what I saw from Pritchard too but his over dribbling stood out to me. That being said he got into the lane regularly off the dribble, showed a variety of ways he can get a shot off and finish in there against bigger opponents, despite being below the rim, and was overall effective. He had a couple turnovers in a row off bad passes to Tacko that he couldn’t handle. I’ll chalk that up to him not knowing a new teammates lack of ability. Those passes to Williams are likely handled but it’s your job as a PG to know who you’re passing to and set them up the right way. Grant Williams had one drive to the hoop that must’ve made UMass happy. Only one though and four FG attempts in 24 minutes. Let's chalk it up to preseason and the lineups. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 16, 2020 9:59:25 GMT -5
Again, not going to look into things much from last night but saw the same stuff that I saw from Rob Williams last year. A player who has a ton to like but gets out of position on defense chasing blocks. I think Tristian Thompson will help him a lot on that front. Williams has already proven to be a hard worker and someone who pays attention to vets (see his comments on Horford and Baynes from his rookie year). If he learns how to play like Thompson but with his athletic ability and skills then we can see a beasts emerge. Add: I should have read this first... theathletic.com/2264570/2020/12/16/robert-williams-joel-embiid-celtics/“These were the same kinds of reads Williams was messing up a year ago, and to still be in this spot of his development curve entering Year 3 is a real concern. But considering how few games he has played in his career, maybe more regular playing time this season will lead to more rapid growth. “ He's played in 61 regular season games with three starts and was crazy raw. He needs experience. He needs to Battle guys like Embiid for multiple games a year. He really needs a guy to get injured so he gets a bunch of playing time. Overall I'm still crazy impressed given the 61 games and what he was as a rookie. I don't disagree that Thompson can help, yet you can't replicate Embiid in practice either. It's an issue for a guy like him that we don't have a low post scorer for him to bang against in practice. Also Thompson is going to play the Embiids and not give Williams the minutes he really needs. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 16, 2020 10:31:36 GMT -5
Again, not going to look into things much from last night but saw the same stuff that I saw from Rob Williams last year. A player who has a ton to like but gets out of position on defense chasing blocks. I think Tristian Thompson will help him a lot on that front. Williams has already proven to be a hard worker and someone who pays attention to vets (see his comments on Horford and Baynes from his rookie year). If he learns how to play like Thompson but with his athletic ability and skills then we can see a beasts emerge. Add: I should have read this first... theathletic.com/2264570/2020/12/16/robert-williams-joel-embiid-celtics/“These were the same kinds of reads Williams was messing up a year ago, and to still be in this spot of his development curve entering Year 3 is a real concern. But considering how few games he has played in his career, maybe more regular playing time this season will lead to more rapid growth. “ He's played in 61 regular season games with three starts and was crazy raw. He needs experience. He needs to Battle guys like Embiid for multiple games a year. He really needs a guy to get injured so he gets a bunch of playing time. Overall I'm still crazy impressed given the 61 games and what he was as a rookie. I don't disagree that Thompson can help, yet you can't replicate Embiid in practice either. It's an issue for a guy like him that we don't have a low post scorer for him to bang against in practice. Also Thompson is going to play the Embiids and not give Williams the minutes he really needs. There are 2 major things he needs to improve at and he doesn’t need to go against Embiid to do it. He does need playing time to do it but he also needs to improve to earn more time. 1. One on one D, he needs to use his speed and quickness to slide his feet and stop hunting fir blocks. 2. Situationally, he needs to learn how to move around and be able to focus on “help” D and his man at the same time and learn the nuances of two responsibilities at once. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 16, 2020 13:34:55 GMT -5
I think he's night and day on those things compared to his rookie year. Yet he's not close to a finished product. End of this year if he gets say 15 minutes nightly we'll know a bunch more.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 16, 2020 16:02:35 GMT -5
 An avulsion fracture is an injury to the bone in a location where a tendon or ligament attaches to the bone. When an avulsion fracture occurs, the tendon or ligament pulls off a piece of the bone. Dude how much bad fortune can you have? |
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Dec 16, 2020 16:13:09 GMT -5
Gordon Hayward is like a walking wet cardboard cutout at this point. Sounds cold, but I don't know man. Glad the Celtics moved on.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 16, 2020 16:19:43 GMT -5
Gordon Hayward is like a walking wet cardboard cutout at this point. Sounds cold, but I don't know man. Glad the Celtics moved on. Not so sure we can say they moved on as they offered him 4/100 to try and keep. But if he’s going to keep getting hurt it’s fortunate he’s gone. |
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Dec 16, 2020 16:29:15 GMT -5
Gordon Hayward is like a walking wet cardboard cutout at this point. Sounds cold, but I don't know man. Glad the Celtics moved on. Not so sure we can say they moved on as they offered him 4/100 to try and keep. But if he’s going to keep getting hurt it’s fortunate he’s gone. Yeah I guess they didn't move on. Fortunately, the Hornets offered more money. |
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Post by philarhody on Dec 17, 2020 10:13:08 GMT -5
James Harden.... Straight Santa Vibes |
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Post by texs31 on Dec 17, 2020 10:37:32 GMT -5
Must have missed this but people are saying Tatum is close to 6'10" now. FINALLY Ainge gets a good big! Stevens admitted the other day that he wasn't serious when he said it. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 17, 2020 17:33:28 GMT -5
This whole Hayward thing, Danny saying they wanted to keep him, while admitting they talked to multiple teams about trading him and that Danny kinda knew Hayward was leaving because he wanted a bigger role. It feels like Horford, offering him a contract you knew was below what he'd get on the market and telling everyone you wanted to keep him. It sounds good, keeps the fans happy, shifts the narrative to the other team was stupid. Yet I just have a really hard time understanding how if you really wanted to keep him you would have trade conversations with multiple teams. After hearing about Charlotte's offer it wasn't I'll increase my offer, it's I'll negotiate in 'good faith" with the Pacers.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 17, 2020 18:20:09 GMT -5
This whole Hayward thing, Danny saying they wanted to keep him, while admitting they talked to multiple teams about trading him and that Danny kinda knew Hayward was leaving because he wanted a bigger role. It feels like Horford, offering him a contract you knew was below what he'd get on the market and telling everyone you wanted to keep him. It sounds good, keeps the fans happy, shifts the narrative to the other team was stupid. Yet I just have a really hard time understanding how if you really wanted to keep him you would have trade conversations with multiple teams. After hearing about Charlotte's offer it wasn't I'll increase my offer, it's I'll negotiate in 'good faith" with the Pacers. I’m not sure how it’s hard to understand that you’d offer a guy your number but also talk trade to see what you can get. If Charlotte doesn’t jump in at 4/120 and you don’t get the trade you want from Indy then you keep him at your number. It makes perfect sense. If you don’t think that’s how it went down, then that’s one thing but to not understand how that’s a realistic scenario is another. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 17, 2020 23:58:08 GMT -5
Talking about trading a guy doesn't show you want him and Danny admitted he kinda knew he was gone because he wanted a bigger role. I don't think Hayward coming back to Celtics was ever an option and Danny knew that. The Knicks were also interested. He opted out, he knew he had options. Just like with Horford, players don't opt out of massive deals unless they know they can get a better one.
I think the thing that surprised Danny was that he actually went to a crappy team.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 18, 2020 7:17:49 GMT -5
If you don’t think that’s what happened, that’s fine but in the NBA is makes perfect sense to discuss trading a guy while simultaneously setting up a situation where you resign him. I’m not going to get back into Hayward specific minutia, but the NBA is a lot different than the other league with the messed up salary cap.
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 18, 2020 20:19:17 GMT -5
Good to see Marcus is still allowed to take awful shots with zero repercussions.
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 18, 2020 20:45:44 GMT -5
Glad to see Brad is wasting preseason minutes on Semi over Nesmith and Theis over Robert Williams. Way to develop your young talent and bench.
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Post by homerdante on Dec 18, 2020 22:00:31 GMT -5
The game looks extremely high effort for Tatum and Brown right now. I'm sure this is probably common so early in the year, but they both seem uncomfortable and like they're having to push extra hard just to get anything currently. I hope to see them relax into the game again soon. That high effort seems to have them both missing tons of shots you normally see them make.
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