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Post by philarhody on Dec 18, 2020 22:16:24 GMT -5
Nesmith is your 6th or 7th best player. You’ve got to play him.
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 18, 2020 22:29:19 GMT -5
Nesmith is your 6th or 7th best player. You’ve got to play him. A competent coach would. We’ll see if Brad does so, or if he continues to repeat the same mistakes year after year.
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Post by sarasoxer on Dec 18, 2020 22:39:58 GMT -5
The game looks extremely high effort for Tatum and Brown right now. I'm sure this is probably common so early in the year, but they both seem uncomfortable and like they're having to push extra hard just to get anything currently. I hope to see them relax into the game again soon. That high effort seems to have them both missing tons of shots you normally see them make. Would agree. Losing Hayward and Kemba puts so much pressure on good, complementary players...which I believe Brown, Tatum, Teague are. I think a record of 43-39 is where we will be... absent a great exception or trade acquisition. Prichard and Nesmith showed little tonight.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Dec 18, 2020 23:02:20 GMT -5
It would be kind of depressing to see the Nets go into the Finals before the Celtics with the team that Ainge tried to build through free agency and trades with Kyrie and Durant. Regardless of anyone's feelings towards weirdo Kyrie.
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Post by cdj on Dec 18, 2020 23:07:46 GMT -5
Glad to see Brad is wasting preseason minutes on Semi over Nesmith and Theis over Robert Williams. Way to develop your young talent and bench. They have two preseason games to get everybody ready for the season and having a feel for the game, this isnt “development” time. Everybody gets run I’m also not gonna read too much into nba preseason games but that’s just me
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Post by ianrs on Dec 19, 2020 2:45:05 GMT -5
Well we don't look great.
Our depth is absolutely unacceptable and a failure in roster building. Not unlike the Red Sox fringe moves w Dombrowski, actually...
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 19, 2020 11:47:07 GMT -5
Glad to see Brad is wasting preseason minutes on Semi over Nesmith and Theis over Robert Williams. Way to develop your young talent and bench. They have two preseason games to get everybody ready for the season and having a feel for the game, this isnt “development” time. Everybody gets run I’m also not gonna read too much into nba preseason games but that’s just me If you want to whistle past the graveyard, be my guest. The East is no longer a cakewalk, and there are some real talent deficiencies on this team until Kemba and Thompson return. To make matters worse, Brad is showing little interest in developing some of the team’s younger talent. There’s no reason Semi and Javonte Green should be getting minutes over Nesmith, Pritchard, and the Williamses.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 19, 2020 12:33:30 GMT -5
Well we don't look great. Our depth is absolutely unacceptable and a failure in roster building. Not unlike the Red Sox fringe moves w Dombrowski, actually... A team that made it to the ECF with NO DEPTH somehow LOSES DEPTH. Watch as Celtics fans put this on Brad while it's 100% on Danny.
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Post by rminns10 on Dec 19, 2020 13:23:44 GMT -5
Assuming you start Kemba, Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Thompson. I think the depth is fine(once everyone is healthy). You have a veteran pg(teague), 2 bigs you can play(thies and timelord), and young wings (Romeo, Nesmith).YOu mix and match those guys with the starters during the late 1st quarter and second quarter. My issue is when Kemba is not in the game and it turns into the Marcus Smart show, thats the biggest problem in my opinion.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 19, 2020 14:25:29 GMT -5
They have two preseason games to get everybody ready for the season and having a feel for the game, this isnt “development” time. Everybody gets run I’m also not gonna read too much into nba preseason games but that’s just me If you want to whistle past the graveyard, be my guest. The East is no longer a cakewalk, and there are some real talent deficiencies on this team until Kemba and Thompson return. To make matters worse, Brad is showing little interest in developing some of the team’s younger talent. There’s no reason Semi and Javonte Green should be getting minutes over Nesmith, Pritchard, and the Williamses. This, we saw a team last night that’s deep because their young guys were forced to play and get experience. The Celtics would be better off long term letting the young guys get good minutes. Green and Semi should be end of bench fodder that don’t play until there’s a million injuries or you need to go there in a post season matchup
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 19, 2020 14:50:37 GMT -5
I thought the teams that played deep into the playoffs and were young would have an advantage early. I guess I underestimated the break needed even for very young players. This team looks off and the teams/players with more rest look better. They were getting ready while our guys were relaxing and healing. Even the starters only played Celtics Basketball for small spurts. Yeah you should be a little worried when the season starts in three days.
My issues with the Thompson signing are showing up day one. Theis and Robert Williams were fine. Heck while Robert Williams has a ways to go, he looks good. He's making an impact like in the playoffs. Now the same can't be said for most of our other young guys. It was never Thompson sucks or won't help, it's just when losing Hayward you needed help at other positions more. You are now betting our depth all on young guys. It's why I would have targeted a guy with the full mid-level that could add scoring and a new element to the team.
Nesmith seems to really have benefited from a long time off. Focusing on getting ready for the draft, where they work to improve your athletic ability has made him look a lot different. I watched so much tape on him and he's a big plus compared to what I expected. Like others I'm a little surprised by how far down the rotation latter he is. It takes 5 minutes to see he should be way ahead of Semi on the depth chart.
Biggest disappointed is Carson Edwards has once again shown you nothing. He can easily get shots off, yet can't hit the side of a barn. Oh yeah and that Danny thought it was Smart to bring back Semi over a free agent or draft pick.
It's going to be rocky till Walker gets back and Langford gets healthy. Whole lot of pressure on young guys to step up.
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Post by ianrs on Dec 20, 2020 3:49:50 GMT -5
The one who got away will always be Christian Wood to me. Would be absolutely perfect on this team.
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Post by philarhody on Dec 20, 2020 6:48:21 GMT -5
The one who got away will always be Christian Wood to me. Would be absolutely perfect on this team. Absolutely. Maybe he didn’t want to play here. Because I know Danny was trying to trade for him last year. It would be a shame if that didn’t happen because we were waiting on Gordon Hayward. Wood looks like a star and a top 5 big in the league whose timeline fits Jayson and Jaylen. And he’s not making much more than Tristan Thompson is.
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Post by philarhody on Dec 20, 2020 7:00:26 GMT -5
Best case scenario for the Celtics this season?
Jayson and Jaylen take big steps forward as they learn what it means to be both high usage and efficient stars. Nesmith hits 2 threes a game and plays over 20 minutes a game. Williams becomes a 20 minute a game player, enabling the front office to get something for Theis. The tpe gets a linking player or shot creator who helps unlock the offense for the big wing shooters you’ve built around. Kemba doesn’t play and gets better. Romeo doesn’t play and shoots 1,000 3’s a day. You find a real backup point guard between Pritchard and Waters. And Grant becomes a serviceable backup.
If you make it to the second round of the playoffs and all of the above happens, I’m happy.
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Post by texs31 on Dec 20, 2020 10:07:58 GMT -5
I'll add that one of Langford, Nesmith, GWilliams, RWilliams or Pritchard becomes a starting caliber player (in a best case I mean).
They need that to put together an offer for a star so they dont have to trade BOTH Brown/Smart.
Somewhat related:
Rudy Gobert agreed to a 5 yr extension.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 20, 2020 14:24:16 GMT -5
I really don’t think they need another star, they need good rotational pieces. And I mean good, like look at the Nets.
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Post by texs31 on Dec 20, 2020 15:03:46 GMT -5
Fair. My best case serves that purpose too.
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Post by texs31 on Dec 20, 2020 17:44:59 GMT -5
Kuzma gets 3 more yrs from LAL.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 21, 2020 7:27:51 GMT -5
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Post by texs31 on Dec 21, 2020 14:29:38 GMT -5
I love Marcus Smart
Tom Westerholm @tom_NBA · 10m Marcus Smart was asked why he’s focused on shot selection: “Cause when I take great shots I’m a great shooter.”
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Post by texs31 on Dec 21, 2020 18:55:48 GMT -5
More extensions came at the deadline:
Tor with Anunobi LAC with Kennard SA with White ORL with Fultz and Isaac.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 21, 2020 19:47:21 GMT -5
More extensions came at the deadline: Tor with Anunobi LAC with Kennard SA with White ORL with Fultz and Isaac. What in the hell is Orlando doing?
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 21, 2020 19:57:31 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 22, 2020 11:40:38 GMT -5
More extensions came at the deadline: Tor with Anunobi LAC with Kennard SA with White ORL with Fultz and Isaac. What in the hell is Orlando doing? Overpaying young guys because it's the only way they can keep them. Yet Isaac is out for the year and Fultz is likely a backup by year's end to Cole Anthony. I will say I do love their talent Bamba, Okeke and Anthony are all young guys I really liked.
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Post by texs31 on Dec 22, 2020 12:13:21 GMT -5
Could Fultz/Anthony conceivably play together? Wonder if they are envisioning that being the backcourt of the future in Orlando.
Unless, of course, they end up trading Gordon/Vuc/Fournier and tanking, landing one of the top ball-handlers in the class.
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