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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 11, 2020 9:01:22 GMT -5
Byron Cowart on COVID reserve. Bet there’s no game tomorrow
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 11, 2020 9:05:14 GMT -5
Confirmed - no game - moves to next week.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 11, 2020 12:39:36 GMT -5
The only thing making that weird is you once again acting like the rules don't include a doctor okaying it and what the doctor uses to clear a player. Doctor I've cleared Newton after running a battery of tests, he's 100% healthy no I'll effects. He's getting some negative tests, yet not two in a row which we know can happen. He's now had antibodies for five days and I'm 100% positive he isn't at risk to injury himself or infecting other so I've cleared him to play. That isn't weird one bit and you know that's what not getting two negative tests will be. The Doctor making sure he can't spread it and isn't at risk of hurting himself. You have reports of Cam getting negative tests? I was just making up an example. A doctor will use whatever he wants, yet he will use something. With Trump they were talking about measuring the the amount of the virus in the test and at a certain point that can be used as it decreases. Yet if Trump proves anything it's that all Doctors don't agree with many saying only 10 days isn't enough to know he can't spread it, other say yes only with a negative test, other say with antibodies. All Doctors are different yet they are using stuff to say that, not just it's been ten days is the point. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 14, 2020 16:30:53 GMT -5
Cam Newton activated today
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 14, 2020 20:19:48 GMT -5
We interested in Bell?
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 14, 2020 21:19:36 GMT -5
Not unless he does a 180 and is happy and capable splitting a backfield and if they can trade Michel. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 14, 2020 22:51:01 GMT -5
I'm not handing him anything, more like just a chance to prove he's still elite, add depth and look at his receiving skills. Not good enough?, I'm fine with that.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 15, 2020 5:29:22 GMT -5
Of course I’d be fine with that, but I doubt he’d take it. Who knows tho...
Also, who you get rid of?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 15, 2020 11:58:33 GMT -5
Of course I’d be fine with that, but I doubt he’d take it. Who knows tho... Also, who you get rid of? I wouldn't get rid of anyone till he proves he's still elite. Michel is on the IR and can stay there for a while. Now if he's elite, I likely look to trade White or Burkhead because you'll use Bell a ton as a receiver. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 16, 2020 12:09:20 GMT -5
More positive COVID tests in Foxboro.... this season just isn’t going to work
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 16, 2020 13:23:52 GMT -5
Should teams have to start forfeiting if they cannot play because of COVID?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 16, 2020 13:27:43 GMT -5
Well it won't work given the way the NFL is handling it. You needed extra time and the ability to shut things down. You can't just shut things down for a few days. It's like the NFL doesn't get the incubation period with Covid. It restarts after every positive test.
Patriots are doing a bunch of extra stuff which likely stopped a Titan's size outbreak. Yet NFL keeps pressuring them to play. Instead of just extending the season, giving the Patriots their bye week to stop this. Nope, this is the third mistake the NFL has made with the Patriots already. Played the Chiefs, wanted them to play Broncos and now has them playing Broncos on what should be a bye week.
I have to laugh because even College Football is canceling games and handling this better than the NFL.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 16, 2020 13:28:25 GMT -5
Should teams have to start forfeiting if they cannot play because of COVID? No! |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 16, 2020 14:46:58 GMT -5
Should teams have to start forfeiting if they cannot play because of COVID? No! Isn’t it impossible to do what you said without enforcing forfeits? Like if you shutdown the whole league when one team gets a positive for 2 weeks then the season won’t end. If you only shut down the teams with positives then you could have teams with a month or more off before playoffs. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 16, 2020 15:57:14 GMT -5
Isn’t it impossible to do what you said without enforcing forfeits? Like if you shutdown the whole league when one team gets a positive for 2 weeks then the season won’t end. If you only shut down the teams with positives then you could have teams with a month or more off before playoffs. Why are we talking about shutting down the whole league? The Titan's and Patriots mess could have likely been avoided with a one week, no practice, no gathering type shutdown. To this day neither team was given that. The idea that you could play 16 games in 17 weeks is crazy. If they made it 20 weeks, now that can work. That's four weeks to deal with issues. If a team has more issues than that, maybe we can talk about forfeits then. Yet overall things have been good. Just like Baseball crap was going to happen, yet Football isn't and wasn't ready to deal with it. Baseball shut it down, stopped it, increased rules and was darn near perfect afterwards. The NFL way is basically do nothing, wait one extra day and play. Oh Patriots aren't playing this week with more tests, ok now get ready to play next week. They are literally taking a small outbreak and making it into a big one by pushing teams to play over player safety and stoping the spread. I don't see the teams not playing for a month issue, the extra bye weeks should have been built into the schedule, not just on the back end of it. Every sport has adjusted besides the NFL, they act like just testing is all that is needed. They worry more about coaches wearing masks on TV for optics than the players actual health. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 16, 2020 16:28:34 GMT -5
Isn’t it impossible to do what you said without enforcing forfeits? Like if you shutdown the whole league when one team gets a positive for 2 weeks then the season won’t end. If you only shut down the teams with positives then you could have teams with a month or more off before playoffs. Why are we talking about shutting down the whole league? The Titan's and Patriots mess could have likely been avoided with a one week, no practice, no gathering type shutdown. To this day neither team was given that. The idea that you could play 16 games in 17 weeks is crazy. If they made it 20 weeks, now that can work. That's four weeks to deal with issues. If a team has more issues than that, maybe we can talk about forfeits then. Yet overall things have been good. Just like Baseball crap was going to happen, yet Football isn't and wasn't ready to deal with it. Baseball shut it down, stopped it, increased rules and was darn near perfect afterwards. The NFL way is basically do nothing, wait one extra day and play. Oh Patriots aren't playing this week with more tests, ok now get ready to play next week. They are literally taking a small outbreak and making it into a big one by pushing teams to play over player safety and stoping the spread. I don't see the teams not playing for a month issue, the extra bye weeks should have been built into the schedule, not just on the back end of it. Every sport has adjusted besides the NFL, they act like just testing is all that is needed. They worry more about coaches wearing masks on TV for optics than the players actual health. I was simply laying out the 2 options. I agree you don’t shut down the entire league. But if you shut a team down for 2 weeks on every positive test they are missing at least 2 weeks of games and depending on how the positives fall it could be 3. Let’s say a mini outbreak starts on a Friday then a second positive on Monday. Well you shut down on Friday but had another positive Monday so the clock starts again. Now it’s 3 games gone. Then you have this Patriots situation. Statistically, it’s more likely this is a separate positive than the Gilmore group. It’s 10-11 days later. The incubation CAN be that long but it’s unlikely. So let’s assume it was different. They shouldn’t have played KC or Denver last week and now they shouldn’t play the next 2 weeks. So now you have the Patriots needing to make up 4 games... Baltimore could be done in 17 weeks sitting around waiting for the Patriots to play the rest of their games. You may be able to work schedule gymnastics and figure it out so it’s not as bad but no matter what you do it’s a cluster. I agree more weeks should have been built in and the schedule spread out with flexibility but they didn’t so here we are. If the Pats can’t play again this week neither can Denver so now they go 3 weeks between games: sucks for them. No bye week because they’ve been practicing both weeks. So we are going to tack another week on their schedule? How’s that fair? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 16, 2020 20:32:38 GMT -5
The last test was Sunday morning to Friday morning, 5 days. So I don't see this as a new case. Well within incubation period. We have information that says it's new?
I think a week would be a darn good start, go from there. Yet that's a week without playing or practicing so it's basically two games because you need time to practice for the next team.
Not sure I get the fair part, compared to our players getting Covid? I'll take no cases and extra practice over positive tests.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 17, 2020 6:06:21 GMT -5
The last test was Sunday morning to Friday morning, 5 days. So I don't see this as a new case. Well within incubation period. We have information that says it's new? I think a week would be a darn good start, go from there. Yet that's a week without playing or practicing so it's basically two games because you need time to practice for the next team. Not sure I get the fair part, compared to our players getting Covid? I'll take no cases and extra practice over positive tests. Which test was Sunday? Gilmore tested positive on Tuesday the 6th and wasnt around the team again until Thursday the 15th, which is the same day Ferrence just tested positive. We don’t KNOW it’s a new case but he also had no contact with any of the other positives for 9 days. That’s a long time for an incubation period. So we can’t assume it’s new but we can’t assume it’s the same batch. The Patriots were shut down themselves whether the league had them or not. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 17, 2020 13:18:30 GMT -5
The last test was Sunday morning to Friday morning, 5 days. So I don't see this as a new case. Well within incubation period. We have information that says it's new? I think a week would be a darn good start, go from there. Yet that's a week without playing or practicing so it's basically two games because you need time to practice for the next team. Not sure I get the fair part, compared to our players getting Covid? I'll take no cases and extra practice over positive tests. Which test was Sunday? Gilmore tested positive on Tuesday the 6th and wasnt around the team again until Thursday the 15th, which is the same day Ferrence just tested positive. We don’t KNOW it’s a new case but he also had no contact with any of the other positives for 9 days. That’s a long time for an incubation period. So we can’t assume it’s new but we can’t assume it’s the same batch. The Patriots were shut down themselves whether the league had them or not. Cowart RJP it's the contact before a guy tests positive, just like all the guys James has now been around. They've been practicing, they have not had 9 days isolated. Patriots have done a lot more than other teams, which is likely why we aren't the Titan's. Yet if you don't shutdown and isolate the guys for a week you might not stop this spread. Like I'd say the DL Cowart would certainly had contact with the OL James in practice right? |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 17, 2020 16:22:05 GMT -5
Add Michel, Mason and Rivers... how’d Michel pop up? He’s been on IR since before KC... Jesus
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 17, 2020 16:49:57 GMT -5
If they play tomorrow, it just proves all the reports we’ve heard the last week about how the Patriots forced the league into cancelling last week were either A) False or B) true but had nothing to do with player safety
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Post by philarhody on Oct 18, 2020 12:26:50 GMT -5
Harris has more juice than any Patriots’ running back since Dion Lewis tore his ACL.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 18, 2020 12:42:03 GMT -5
It’s understandable they are rusty and they are missing some guys, but it’d be real tough losing to the Broncos at home.
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Post by philarhody on Oct 18, 2020 13:56:50 GMT -5
Oh man, I was just thinking I really like Izzo so far.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 18, 2020 14:17:48 GMT -5
Apparently, Bill just quit on the game. Should have challenged that spot. Was an easy one.
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