Patriots 2020 season thread

I had no intention of doing this but one of the articles I was reading linked me to it so I am just putting this out there because I was accused of being the only one who doesn’t think Newton hasn’t been good. In reality, I said he hasn’t been good his last 2 starts and he’s only had one good game throwing the ball (week 2 vs the worst, or one of the worst, pass defenses in football). We all know he sucked last week and had an excuse for it, so the game in question is the Raiders game. He wasn’t good versus the Raiders, that’s just a reality. He was putrid in the first half - better in the second. The team ran all over the Raiders in the second half and got an “easy” win.

Of course, when you point out a short coming, you’re accused of being a hater even when you freely state it doesn’t mean things won’t be better going forward. The bottom line is Newton needs to be way better than he’s been for the Patriots to have any chance of going any where, especially since if he’s not then it will get harder and harder to run even with our stud offensive line being healthy. That should be a concern for any of us Patriots fans even if we think it will be better. We all know what Cam Newton is capable of, we also know it’s been years since he’s been a consistent top QB in the league with a lot of injuries in between. Oddly that’s both a concern but also a reason to have hope he’s just extra rusty and will improve. The man says the right things and works his tail off so that’s great, but we don’t know - plus he’s working with shitty weapons.

Here are examples of me not being the only one:


www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2020/09/29/bedards-breakdown-cam-newton-struggled-mightily-vs-raiders/


“In the first half alone, Newton had one plus play — a nice throw and decision to Edelman on a crosser — and nine negative plays in the first half alone. A breakdown of the negative plays: five poor decisions, interception (decision), a poor throw behind N’Keal Harry, a half-sack on third down, and a hurry.

The good news? Newton was better in the second half with two plus plays — his 27-yard throw to Harry was terrific and under pressure, a nice screen — and just two negative plays (run stuff and a decision to Edelman).”

www.google.com/amp/s/patriotswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/27/patriots-raiders-cam-newton-struggled-rbs-carry/amp/



www.nfl.com/news/cam-newton-unhappy-with-play-vs-raiders-this-is-supbar-performance

Patriots announced they all dynasty team...

Thoughts... 2 glaring omissions for me.

Patriots’ all-dynasty team

Head coach: Bill Belichick

Defensive line: Richard Seymour, Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork

Outside linebacker: Willie McGinest, Mike Vrabel, Rob Ninkovich

Inside linebacker: Tedy Bruschi, Dont’a Hightower, Roman Phifer

Cornerback: Ty Law, Asante Samuel, Stephon Gilmore

Safety: Rodney Harrison, Patrick Chung, Devin McCourty

Quarterback: Tom Brady

Running back: Kevin Faulk, Corey Dillon, James White

Fullback: James Develin

Wide receiver: Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Troy Brown

Tight end: Rob Gronkowski, Daniel Graham

Tackle: Matt Light, Sebastian Vollmer, Nate Solder

Guard: Logan Mankins, Joe Andruzzi, Joe Thuney

Center: Dan Koppen

Kicker: Adam Vinatieri

Punter: Ryan Allen

Kickoff returner: Bethel Johnson, Ellis Hobbs

Punt returner: Julian Edelman

Special teamer: Matthew Slater, Larry Izzo

Long Snapper: Lonie Paxton, Joe Cardona

Honorable-mention selections: ILB Jerod Mayo, S Lawyer Milloy, G Stephen Neal, G Shaq Mason, C David Andrews, K Stephen Gostkowski, RB LeGarrette Blount, WR Danny Amendola.

You’re probably right and if i had to actually place money on it they’ll probably win about 8 games. It will be hard for Bill to go under .500.

But i can still say they could be better because I’ve said it several times. I’m not ignorant. I understand things could be better than they look and that I can be wrong.

Also, your reading comprehension needs work. I literally said it’s not likely they lose the next 2 in my post. “It’s possible, even if not likely” i believe is the exact quote. It was a post to spur a discussion. You do this thing where you like to take peoples words and ignore what they said and say it’s not what they mean.

By the way, is there any chance the Patriots and Texans make a trade with Easterby currently in charge down there?

Malcolm Butler not getting an honorable mention is pretty inexcusable. He won 2 rings... one as the SB hero that kicked off the bookend of the dynasty and the second as the top corner on the team. Asante Samuel is on the team with one ring as a big part of it (03 he was a bit player) and as a guy who couldn’t catch the ball to put away the perfect season. He’s also talked a lot of shit since he left, if we want to play that card, which I only bring up because of how Butler ended his time here.

Less so but still worthy in my eyes is Vareen (honorable mention) for his performance in that Seattle SB.

I get the arguments for Randy Moss and Welker but they never won rings and in the case of Moss it was an extremely short period of time.

Playcalling has been pretty atrocious as well.

At least 2 of the last 3 throws were competent throws

Do you know how much better an offense is with a tight end. This is 2 years in a row. Maybe coach will wake up in the off-season let someone else make some picks. There’s no offense. Cam looked like crap . All I know if they have a bad year and they have high picks do a better job in the draft. This kills me writing this. It’s so frustrating.

Is a 2:7 TD:INT any good?

Lol Stidham, he just can’t stop throwing picks.

You forgot ownership doesn't like to spend money

Reiss' guess is that this week may have been due to a substitution error on his part.