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Post by texs31 on Dec 1, 2020 7:29:50 GMT -5
I think Mack Jones looks good so he’s a nice grab in the second round. Snag a top wideout in round 1 and him round 2. Maybe Detroit moves on from Stafford. I’d take a year or two of him to bridge. Can't help but think, in the scenario Brugler laid out, BB would take Rashawn Slater given that write up (Smart, technically sound and can play all 5 spots). And we'll all lose our minds. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 1, 2020 7:30:16 GMT -5
What the hell happened to Wentz? First time watching him this year? It's why I said don't count the Eagles out of a QB. He doesn't look like a franchise QB. But that contract is guaranteed 3 more years. He was an MVP candidate - you can’t draft a QB round 1 next year, unless it was Lawrence and that’s not possible. They need to rebuild that line and give him a chance. It’s the smarter long term play. If you rebuild the talent around him, and he still sucks then in a year or 2 you draft a guy and he at least has a chance. Also, they have Jaylen Hurts as a developmental guy they took in round 2 last year so it’s not like they don’t have a potential back up plan. In other words, I do count them out, but teams are dumb so who knows. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 1, 2020 7:39:25 GMT -5
I think Mack Jones looks good so he’s a nice grab in the second round. Snag a top wideout in round 1 and him round 2. Maybe Detroit moves on from Stafford. I’d take a year or two of him to bridge. Can't help but think, in the scenario Brugler laid out, BB would take Rashawn Slater given that write up (Smart, technically sound and can play all 5 spots). And we'll all lose our minds. I wouldn’t lose my mind, I love offensive linemen and love versatile ones even more. I’d lose my mind if they took a wide receiver who’s not fast in the first round. If they take one in the first it better be a game breaker. Other than running back, they can take any position and as long as it’s a stud, they will have done well. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 1, 2020 7:39:57 GMT -5
Will Fuller may have just cost himself a boatload of money
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Post by mobaz on Dec 1, 2020 8:10:14 GMT -5
I'd actually be really happy with Kyle Pitts if the Pats can sort out a QB in free agency or have good grades (and move up for) Mac Jones or Trask. I also don't think Pitts will make it to 15. But this offense REALLY needs an infusion of upside. Still a great WR year so rounds 2 and 3 will have some options there.
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Post by mobaz on Dec 1, 2020 8:12:38 GMT -5
Will Fuller may have just cost himself a boatload of money Now we know why he's healthy for the first time. Saw the joke on twitter: whatever Fuller took that kept him healthy for once should be legalized and put in the water. |
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Post by texs31 on Dec 1, 2020 8:39:29 GMT -5
Bradley Roby popped too. Did I see that Brian Cushing was their Strength and Conditioning Coach? Hmmmmmmm.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 1, 2020 10:47:02 GMT -5
First time watching him this year? It's why I said don't count the Eagles out of a QB. He doesn't look like a franchise QB. But that contract is guaranteed 3 more years. He was an MVP candidate - you can’t draft a QB round 1 next year, unless it was Lawrence and that’s not possible. They need to rebuild that line and give him a chance. It’s the smarter long term play. If you rebuild the talent around him, and he still sucks then in a year or 2 you draft a guy and he at least has a chance. Also, they have Jaylen Hurts as a developmental guy they took in round 2 last year so it’s not like they don’t have a potential back up plan. In other words, I do count them out, but teams are dumb so who knows. You seem to think any team taking a QB means cutting the old one. Think Packers, Ravens and Chiefs, you can let the guy sit for a few years. After 2021 they can save around $7 million cutting or trading him. Hurts has big questions about his arm talent. I've never been as high on him as others after Foles greatly outplayed him in that year you mentioned when people were talking MVP. They did what most teams do, sold the future to build a super team. Like Wentz looked good when he had one of the better collections of offensive talent in the league. Now with decent talent he looks lost. It might be unlikely, yet let's see what happens. If they clean house, like new GM or coach anything can happen. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 1, 2020 11:06:51 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 1, 2020 11:33:04 GMT -5
Can't help but think, in the scenario Brugler laid out, BB would take Rashawn Slater given that write up (Smart, technically sound and can play all 5 spots). And we'll all lose our minds. I wouldn’t lose my mind, I love offensive linemen and love versatile ones even more. I’d lose my mind if they took a wide receiver who’s not fast in the first round. If they take one in the first it better be a game breaker. Other than running back, they can take any position and as long as it’s a stud, they will have done well. Glad to see you've moved on from WRs like Harry in the first. He was your guy no? You want the big fast athletic guys like Claypool. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 1, 2020 12:01:01 GMT -5
I wouldn’t lose my mind, I love offensive linemen and love versatile ones even more. I’d lose my mind if they took a wide receiver who’s not fast in the first round. If they take one in the first it better be a game breaker. Other than running back, they can take any position and as long as it’s a stud, they will have done well. Glad to see you've moved on from WRs like Harry in the first. He was your guy no? You want the big fast athletic guys like Claypool. I don’t think I wanted a receiver in the first round. I remember mocking Isabella to the Patriots a ton. Then guys like Morgan late |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 1, 2020 13:34:38 GMT -5
Went back and looked at the comments on Harry. I worried about the lack of big plays and lack of TDs for a guy like him. Kinda scary how that's still an issue. Yet in Bills defense he drafted him for Brady, a crazy accurate passer, not Newton. The Stidham TD kinda proves that point, Newton and Harry aren't a good mix. Newton is a throw to an open guy, not a timing passer like Brady
RJP you did mention Harry once in the first and then moved on. If Bill had only done the same thing.
What's funny is the guys the board marked as fits have all basically been better than Harry. I'd love to know Bills thought process on that one.
I still find it funny reading the reports on Metcalf. I don't know what happened, yet the reports about him being stiff with no movement skills sound crazy how.
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Post by mobaz on Dec 3, 2020 9:03:57 GMT -5
theathletic.com/2235164/2020/12/03/trey-lance-qb-nfl-draft/Jeff Howe goes deep on Trey Lance ($). He's working 8 hrs a day on strength, fundamentals and footwork with a noted QB guru in Atlanta. Lots of talk about why he didn't get Big 10 or other P5 offers, and his days/growth backing up Easton Stick at ND State. I remember Stick getting hype before his final season as a potential Day 1/2 pick, and the extra exposure worked against him, hence the fall to 5th round and NFL backup. That was my worry with Lance, that another season would only expose him and we didn't get to see it. The Howe article shows how Lance was more precocious than Stick. Three random notes: Crazy to see 3 NFL QBs come out of ND State; FCS stats aren't very well organized; and it's very hard to look up Easton Stick without getting hockey equipment.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 3, 2020 12:24:09 GMT -5
Random question - Do the Pats qualify for a comp pick if Newton signs somewhere else this offseason? Comp picks are determined based on out going versus incoming free agents. They also have to get paid a high enough amount by position to qualify and play a certain number of snaps during that season so it’s impossible to say but I think conventional wisdom based on cap space, that the Patriots will not be receiving Comp picks in the 2022 draft... they will have several in the 2021 draft. If you want your head to explode read this: overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/ |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 3, 2020 13:24:23 GMT -5
www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/new-england-patriots/Who do they resign? If you want to project comp picks that matters. Another thing to remember trades don't count, guys released don't count and free agents signed late in the year don't count. Even if we get to the point where he can count, right now I don't see him getting a big deal. So you'd be looking at 5/6 round pick. Most likely he just offsets a player we signed, which is important also.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 4, 2020 15:52:49 GMT -5
Is anyone else semi addicted to draft kings or am I the only degenerate?
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Post by cdj on Dec 4, 2020 23:37:15 GMT -5
Is anyone else semi addicted to draft kings or am I the only degenerate? Fanduel for me recently but yes My bank figured out I was depositing into Bovada and shut that down so I turned to more bank-friendly, legal alternative in Fanduel. Been putting together MMA lineups and NFL lineups. Cleaning up in NFL in a league of 10-12 ppl depending on the week. Came in first like 3 or 4 times and I don’t think I have any clue what I’m doing Taysom Hill as a TE a couple weeks ago >>>>>> |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 5, 2020 17:13:38 GMT -5
Patriots released Isaiah Ford and activated Dalton Keane... good trade for Ford
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 5, 2020 17:26:18 GMT -5
2022 7th round draft pick
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Post by mobaz on Dec 5, 2020 17:46:48 GMT -5
2022 7th round draft pick I thought it was reporyed as conditional so there is some possibility it won't convey. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 5, 2020 18:12:54 GMT -5
2022 7th round draft pick I thought it was reporyed as conditional so there is some possibility it won't convey. 2022 7th round pick that could turn into a 6th is what I've seen. |
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Post by cdj on Dec 6, 2020 1:46:27 GMT -5
Meh color me as indifferent to the Ford trade/waiving. Probably can get him back on the practice squad if they get lucky
I guess Moncrief is looking like the better player in practice. Had a nice kick return too. My steelers fan friend hates his guts but whatever, he’s big and athletic I guess. Was a big time fantasy sleeper a few years ago lol
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Post by cdj on Dec 6, 2020 22:45:33 GMT -5
That was quite a game....
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 7, 2020 6:54:21 GMT -5
At this point since they aren’t getting a good pick or likely making the playoffs; I’d just like them to finish 3-1 so Bill continues his winning record streak and we can feel better going into next year
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 7, 2020 7:25:25 GMT -5
At this point since they aren’t getting a good pick or likely making the playoffs; I’d just like them to finish 3-1 so Bill continues his winning record streak and we can feel better going into next year Tough landing in no mans land, no playoffs and no top 10 pick. I am encouraged by the playing time for many rookies, bodes well for the future. Now if they could just get something out of the 2 TE's. |
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