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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 26, 2020 11:49:23 GMT -5
I believe 11 PA 5 H - (3 singles & 2 doubles) 2 BB 1 HBP 1 or 2 K (one of the outs was before the video feed started and an unknown) The other known out was a groundout
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Sept 26, 2020 20:13:42 GMT -5
Does anyone have Yorke's final stat line? I believe he went 7 for 10. The median player with his pedigree should be expected to be a total disaster against AAA pitching. A .200 hitter has about a 1 in 100,000 chance of going 7 for 10. You need to be a .297 hitter to get it to 1 in 1,000. We already have enough information to significantly upgrade our projections for how good he'll be. No, we don't, but I love the optimism. I'm very curious to hear where you got those numbers from.
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Post by sittingstill on Sept 26, 2020 22:00:06 GMT -5
I would caution folks to remember how different the sim game atmosphere is from real game play, which I think definitely affects the relevance of statistics. Balls/strikes were called from the infield (and frequently hits/outs in the outfield too). We aren't privy to what individual pitchers were working on. While I think all pro players are competitive, there was no pressure here for the youngest players in particular to try to do too much (as we frequently see in games at the lower levels) because there was no scoreboard and nothing resembling two separate teams. I'm impressed by the way Yorke acquitted himself, but I wouldn't dig too far into the numbers.
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Post by unitspin on Sept 26, 2020 22:05:25 GMT -5
Ya I want to see a full season before I go ham on the kid.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 26, 2020 22:27:12 GMT -5
It's also become clear that the site was being used as a training venue from what we've seen of Houck. In other words, he may be facing pitchers who are learning new pitches, refining old ones, or developing ideas about sequencing. That's not the same as a game environment.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 28, 2020 8:42:58 GMT -5
Does anyone have Yorke's final stat line? I believe he went 7 for 10. The median player with his pedigree should be expected to be a total disaster against AAA pitching. A .200 hitter has about a 1 in 100,000 chance of going 7 for 10. You need to be a .297 hitter to get it to 1 in 1,000. We already have enough information to significantly upgrade our projections for how good he'll be. We have 10 plate appearances in which he looked very good. Personally, I see it more as validating where we have him (as opposed to, say, Fangraphs, where he's 29th on a list that I'm increasingly flummoxed by (Hudson Potts at #5?)). If we hear really good things about him in Instructs as well, maybe he's bumped up to a 4.5 grade, but I'm not moving him into the top 10 yet or anything I don't think unless we're getting "he's the best player in camp"-level reports on him.
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Post by SALNotes on Oct 4, 2020 16:35:57 GMT -5
In every video I see of Yorke, his hands look special and the ball seems to come off the bat very well. Certainly intriguing.
Hoping to read lots of good reports from instructs.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 4, 2020 19:18:24 GMT -5
In every video I see of Yorke, his hands look special and the ball seems to come off the bat very well. Certainly intriguing. Hoping to read lots of good reports from instructs. I'm hoping for ANY reports from instructs. I'm guessing everything is going to be zoom interviews.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 4, 2020 22:42:54 GMT -5
I very much doubt there will be any Zoom interviews. The availability set up by the PawSox from the ATS was a different story. Typically there isn't specific media availability at Instructs.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 4, 2020 23:27:27 GMT -5
Giant black box
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Post by radiohix on Oct 5, 2020 4:54:56 GMT -5
I very much doubt there will be any Zoom interviews. The availability set up by the PawSox from the ATS was a different story. Typically there isn't specific media availability at Instructs. It's time for the SoxProspects drones to invade Fort Myers skies Chris.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 5, 2020 9:00:32 GMT -5
I very much doubt there will be any Zoom interviews. The availability set up by the PawSox from the ATS was a different story. Typically there isn't specific media availability at Instructs. It's time for the SoxProspects drones to invade Fort Myers skies Chris. If you give to our Patron at the $100/episode level, we buy a drone and name it after you.
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Post by ortiz34 on Dec 30, 2020 18:05:38 GMT -5
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Post by chrisfromnc on Feb 24, 2021 19:48:54 GMT -5
www.radio.com/weei/sports/red-sox/how-alex-cora-is-steering-nick-yorke-in-the-right-directionAn article about Nick Yorke at ST. There’s a tweet embedded in the article that has video of an at bat. I was not aware he was going to turn into Greg Luzinski. I was not crazy about the signing but wanted to trust that the team really scouted him well. Eh...I’m wondering if they scouted him at a dinner table? For an 18 year old, he’s huge. And it doesn’t look like the good kind of huge to me. If he has this frame at 18, he’s going to constantly have to work to maintain athleticism. The quote from Cora is at best a left handed compliment. “ I saw him a few days ago in the batting cage and he’s lost some weight, he’s in a better place physically. He's a tall, strong kid. That was impressive.” How does the first rounder who just got out of high school need to lose weight?? Somebody tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. Please. I seriously want to be wrong.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 24, 2021 19:53:29 GMT -5
www.radio.com/weei/sports/red-sox/how-alex-cora-is-steering-nick-yorke-in-the-right-directionAn article about Nick Yorke at ST. There’s a tweet embedded in the article that has video of an at bat. I was not aware he was going to turn into Greg Luzinski. I was not crazy about the signing but wanted to trust that the team really scouted him well. Eh...I’m wondering if they scouted him at a dinner table? For an 18 year old, he’s huge. And it doesn’t look like the good kind of huge to me. If he has this frame at 18, he’s going to constantly have to work to maintain athleticism. The quote from Cora is at best a left handed compliment. “ I saw him a few days ago in the batting cage and he’s lost some weight, he’s in a better place physically. He's a tall, strong kid. That was impressive.” How does the first rounder who just got out of high school need to lose weight?? Somebody tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. Please. I seriously want to be wrong. In fairness he is an 18 year old kid who probably never monitored what he ate. I agree he looks a bit hefty in that embedded tweet and is something to keep an eye on but it's not something I think should be worried about that much right now.
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Post by manfred on Feb 24, 2021 19:58:30 GMT -5
www.radio.com/weei/sports/red-sox/how-alex-cora-is-steering-nick-yorke-in-the-right-directionAn article about Nick Yorke at ST. There’s a tweet embedded in the article that has video of an at bat. I was not aware he was going to turn into Greg Luzinski. I was not crazy about the signing but wanted to trust that the team really scouted him well. Eh...I’m wondering if they scouted him at a dinner table? For an 18 year old, he’s huge. And it doesn’t look like the good kind of huge to me. If he has this frame at 18, he’s going to constantly have to work to maintain athleticism. The quote from Cora is at best a left handed compliment. “ I saw him a few days ago in the batting cage and he’s lost some weight, he’s in a better place physically. He's a tall, strong kid. That was impressive.” How does the first rounder who just got out of high school need to lose weight?? Somebody tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. Please. I seriously want to be wrong. In fairness he is an 18 year old kid who probably never monitored what he ate. I agree he looks a bit hefty in that embedded tweet and is something to keep an eye on but it's not something I think should be worried about that much right now. But it is fair to already doubt he ends up a middle infielder, no? Even in too shape, he’s gunna be a huge dude.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 24, 2021 20:03:48 GMT -5
In fairness he is an 18 year old kid who probably never monitored what he ate. I agree he looks a bit hefty in that embedded tweet and is something to keep an eye on but it's not something I think should be worried about that much right now. But it is fair to already doubt he ends up a middle infielder, no? Even in too shape, he’s gunna be a huge dude. That's fair but until we see him playing 2nd base in games to prove otherwise I think it's too early to worry about a kid having too much weight on his frame. I don't know his full report from his time at the ATS last year but I don't recall anything regarding his defense being an issue at the time.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Feb 24, 2021 20:04:00 GMT -5
Ok, so I’m realizing the video is not from ST but is a tweet from September at the ATS. Maybe he is actually less heavy right now.
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Post by pedroiaesque on Feb 24, 2021 20:07:38 GMT -5
Ok, so I’m realizing the video is not from ST but is a tweet from September at the ATS. Maybe he is actually less heavy right now. I was just about to make that point. And I think that's what ematz1423 was eluding to when he said that he didn't have access to the type of nutrition programs he has now that he's a pro. I would seriously hold off on over-reacting about his body for now. And I completely agree that we need to see how he handles the middle infield before we write him off there. As it is, it doesn't look like he has much remaining projection.
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Post by imnothipp on Feb 24, 2021 22:03:45 GMT -5
Pretty sure Pedroia lost weight right after he was drafted or maybe after his first pro year as well. Was never a problem for him after that.
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Post by sittingstill on Feb 24, 2021 22:13:51 GMT -5
Pretty sure Pedroia lost weight right after he was drafted or maybe after his first pro year as well. Was never a problem for him after that. Pedroia actually had to lose a lot of weight after his debut in MLB. See this article from spring training in 2007.
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Post by manfred on Feb 24, 2021 22:42:33 GMT -5
I should clarify... an 18-year old listed at 6’ 200 pounds *may* be in danger of growing out of 2b... not impugning his weight. Obviously there is no point in long term projection... let him play, see what shakes.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 24, 2021 22:50:13 GMT -5
I should clarify... an 18-year old listed at 6’ 200 pounds *may* be in danger of growing out of 2b... not impugning his weight. Obviously there is no point in long term projection... let him play, see what shakes. That's how I see it too. Worth keeping an eye on for sure, if hes not careful it could be an issue but let's let the kid play before jumping to any conclusions.
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Post by dcb26 on Feb 24, 2021 23:01:38 GMT -5
Pretty sure Pedroia lost weight right after he was drafted or maybe after his first pro year as well. Was never a problem for him after that. Pedroia actually had to lose a lot of weight after his debut in MLB. See this article from spring training in 2007. Reminded me of a comment Millar supposedly made to Francona when Millar saw the Sox in 07 Spring Training and saw how much weight Pedroia had lost and Schilling had gained - "Looks like your ace ate your second baseman" or something like that.
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Post by stevedillard on Feb 25, 2021 6:01:38 GMT -5
So, the Yorke story doesn’t really qualify as “reported in the best shape of his career” does it? Still waiting .....
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