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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 16, 2022 17:12:50 GMT -5
Thought it was interesting Speier ranked Romero higher than Yorke. Not saying it’s wrong or right- just interesting He noted in the chat he's left-handed and more certain to stay in the middle infield. Romero's hit data is sexy as hell. I get it, even though I'm not quite there yet.
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Post by ccoll33 on Nov 17, 2022 11:12:12 GMT -5
I am a huge nick Yorke guy and think he will be really good. I am happy he had a great AFL. At only 20 I'm confused about so many people want to trade him. Yorke seems to be sliding fast and I think people are panicking because there is no room for him on the roster up the middle(even though he will prob move to left field). I know this does not mean everything but baseball trade value has Yorke's value at 8(was 25 last year and 12 last week). Im curious if anyone knows why his value is dropping that fast. Is it injuries, the fact he will prob not stay up the middle, or both?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Nov 18, 2022 13:25:52 GMT -5
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Nov 18, 2022 14:36:05 GMT -5
With all the infield talent just behind Yorke in the minors perhaps it's time to give him some left field reps to build up positional flexibilty
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 4, 2023 10:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Feb 4, 2023 12:07:12 GMT -5
Sikes is one of my picks to click out of the '21 draft. Interesting that he made that trip.
18th rounder.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 4, 2023 15:50:12 GMT -5
The blog at Driveline is interesting. They discuss in some detail their approach. All of it is geared to biophysical mechanics and how to find an approach to get complete plate coverage.
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Post by huskies15 on Feb 7, 2023 12:03:02 GMT -5
I don't know much about Driveline, but could this be an avenue to try and improve his defensive projection/profile? Maybe it helps him to analyze his movement skills and apply to the field?
Do they do any analysis on injuries and injury prevention?
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Post by iakovos11 on Mar 22, 2023 20:22:24 GMT -5
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Post by stunzisox on Mar 22, 2023 23:07:22 GMT -5
comment section just going off on the old, “should have drafted this guy or this guy afterwards” as though they were so clearly future major league difference makers… Then why’d they slip to the end of the first round or beyond??? HATE that argument in hindsight with such conviction.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Mar 23, 2023 10:33:02 GMT -5
I really love his mindfulness. Wanting to room with pitchers so he sees a different side of the game, making an effort to spend time with his Latin teammates. Just seems like an overall great dude. He was the guy who started a club in high school to sit with people who were alone at lunch, right? Would track with some of the other things in this story. I really hope he succeeds. Him and Casas would be an awesome right side of the infield (on and off the field).
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Post by briam on Apr 8, 2023 13:40:56 GMT -5
Keith Law had a quick comment about Yorke when discussing draft picks that bucked the industry consensus on the athletic pod and credited the Red Sox. He said he is pretty confident Yorke will turn into a big league regular due to his bat. Can’t remember what his write up was when he did the Sox system but thought it was nice to hear after the roller coaster 2022 season for Yorke.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Apr 8, 2023 13:59:46 GMT -5
Keith Law had a quick comment about Yorke when discussing draft picks that bucked the industry consensus on the athletic pod and credited the Red Sox. He said he is pretty confident Yorke will turn into a big league regular due to his bat. Can’t remember what his write up was when he did the Sox system but thought it was nice to hear after the roller coaster 2022 season for Yorke. From 2/22/2023: "His swing is still great, which was the No. 1 reason the Sox bought into him in the 2020 draft when so much of the industry thought they reached by two rounds or more by taking him with their first pick ... The main reason I didn’t put him on the top 100 after just one disappointing year was that his value is so bat-dependent. I think he’s a 45 defender at second, and he’s not likely to be a 20-homer or high-walk guy, so if he doesn’t hit for a higher batting average he doesn’t have a path to be a regular."
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Post by soxfan06 on May 8, 2023 23:56:08 GMT -5
100+ PAs on the year and so far he has really looked like he has bounced back. Anyone seen him play this year?
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Post by chr31ter on May 9, 2023 6:57:06 GMT -5
Keith Law had a quick comment about Yorke when discussing draft picks that bucked the industry consensus on the athletic pod and credited the Red Sox. He said he is pretty confident Yorke will turn into a big league regular due to his bat. Can’t remember what his write up was when he did the Sox system but thought it was nice to hear after the roller coaster 2022 season for Yorke. From 2/22/2023: "His swing is still great, which was the No. 1 reason the Sox bought into him in the 2020 draft when so much of the industry thought they reached by two rounds or more by taking him with their first pick ... The main reason I didn’t put him on the top 100 after just one disappointing year was that his value is so bat-dependent. I think he’s a 45 defender at second, and he’s not likely to be a 20-homer or high-walk guy, so if he doesn’t hit for a higher batting average he doesn’t have a path to be a regular." Not likely to be a high-walk guy? What? Exactly what does a high-walk guy look like at age 21?
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Post by kwodes on May 9, 2023 9:01:04 GMT -5
From 2/22/2023: "His swing is still great, which was the No. 1 reason the Sox bought into him in the 2020 draft when so much of the industry thought they reached by two rounds or more by taking him with their first pick ... The main reason I didn’t put him on the top 100 after just one disappointing year was that his value is so bat-dependent. I think he’s a 45 defender at second, and he’s not likely to be a 20-homer or high-walk guy, so if he doesn’t hit for a higher batting average he doesn’t have a path to be a regular." Not likely to be a high-walk guy? What? Exactly what does a high-walk guy look like at age 21? yea, I'm not sure what that means. I'd think the prerequisite skills for someone who will be a "high walk guy" would be 1) doesn't chase 2) sees pitches 3) crushes mistakes. Does that just mean he's super aggressive or chases a lot? I've never seen him play, but it doesn't seem like that's his profile though.
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Post by chr31ter on May 9, 2023 9:31:54 GMT -5
Not likely to be a high-walk guy? What? Exactly what does a high-walk guy look like at age 21? yea, I'm not sure what that means. I'd think the prerequisite skills for someone who will be a "high walk guy" would be 1) doesn't chase 2) sees pitches 3) crushes mistakes. Does that just mean he's super aggressive or chases a lot? I've never seen him play, but it doesn't seem like that's his profile though. I'm not sure. When I've watched him on MiLB TV, I don't see him as a free-swinger. And I believe he's posted really solid (...at worst) walk rates throughout his career. Other than last year in Greenville, I think he's been a pretty consistent .400+ OBP guy. I'm just not sure how Yorke would be identified as someone won't walk a lot.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 9, 2023 9:49:20 GMT -5
I think you're all overthinking this. A high-walk rate guy is pretty clearly... a guy who walks a lot. We've got walk rates here on the site. Yorke walked at an 11.8% rate in 2021 and 8.8% last year. Those are on the low end. 16.2% this year, so we'll see if that stays a bit higher, but again, that's more middle of the pack.
His high OBP in 2021 was largely hit-driven (IsoD <.100). That's fine, but squares with Law's comment.
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Post by James Dunne on May 9, 2023 9:53:04 GMT -5
I dunno--His walk rate has been consistently around 10%, sometimes higher. He seems to operate pretty well within that "selective aggression" space where he is willing to take a walk but also dangerous early in the count. Check out the 2021 walk rates for guys that had at least 100 PA: Yorke well above the median, especially considering the group ahead of him had a few Quad-A dudes and DSL players who are up there looking for a walk. www.soxprospects.com/stats/hitting.php?split=0&page=2&sortby=BBPA&team=0&year=2021&type=3&min=100 I also disagree that it's hard to see him as a 20 home run hitter. Maybe that'd be on the higher end of his projection but he's big enough and certainly hits the ball with enough authority. He also homered 10 times in 76 games at Salem as a 19-year-old. 28 home runs total in 801 MILB plate appearances. Reading Law's assessment, it sound like the type of player who needs to hit .300 to succeed, and I just don't see that. He's not a masher who you're fine at hitting .230, but a .270/.350/.470 path is one I'm pretty comfortable with.
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Post by jmei on May 9, 2023 16:29:35 GMT -5
I do think there's a type of prospect that walks a lot with middling/poor power in the low/mid minors because guys just don't throw strikes often enough at those levels but then sees his walk rate decline in the high minors/majors once pitchers can throw enough strikes and are willing to pound the zone because the prospect doesn't have enough power to really hurt them. Cecchini is someone who comes to mind and Meidroth may be another in that vein. I think Yorke has more power than those guys but if you're bearish on his power potential, I can see why you'd think he's not going to be a high walk guy.
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Post by scottysmalls on May 9, 2023 16:53:55 GMT -5
A 16.2% BB rate puts Yorke 40th among 216 AA qualifiers, though fair to note it's higher than his historical rate and we'll see where it lands. His 2021 rate ranks similarly in A+. If we wanna talk low walk rate how about Matthew Lugo dead last among AA qualifiers at 1.3%.
MLB is different obviously because pitchers throw more strikes but there are only 9 MLB players with a BB% over 16.2.
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Post by chr31ter on May 28, 2023 9:36:05 GMT -5
Yorke had a tough series against Somerset a few weeks ago (2-for-25), but since then (9 games), he's slashing .364/.500/.576/1.076.
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Post by bosoxnation on May 28, 2023 13:06:48 GMT -5
So happy he bounced back!!! Was going into this year very worried about him. Now i’m over here thinking if he can be in AAA by the end of the summer! Only 21. Hyped!
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Post by ed978 on Jul 10, 2023 23:27:39 GMT -5
Nick Yorke, 2B, 21, BOS (AA) 316 PA, 9 HR, 6 SB, .275/.361/.453 Folks weren’t sure what to make of Yorke’s forgettable 2022 campaign. The industry had a little chuckle when the Red Sox “reached” for Yorke in the first round of the 2020 draft. After a superb 2021 season, everyone adjusted expectations. Then 2022 happened. Some evaluators stuck with their updated outlook and blamed injuries. Others pointed to his subpar defense and wrote him off. Yorke has rebounded this season – perhaps not enough to make up for his defensive shortcomings. His current 122 wRC+ depends upon a .353 BABIP. He also has 13.0 percent swinging strike and 25.0 percent strikeout rates. Historically, prospects with similar statistical performances have been prone to stalling out in the Quad-A bucket. For now, we should view Yorke’s rebound as a positive development. Perhaps more distance from his injury-riddled 2022 will lead to improvements in his quality or rate of contact. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/big-hype-prospects-salas-merrill-yorke-hence-mayo.html#google_vignetteKind of a different perspective outside the organization on Yorke. Doesn't sound like a gloomy perspective in the last paragraph.
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Post by huskies15 on Jul 21, 2023 10:05:14 GMT -5
The other day in the Gameday thread, Yorke was a hot topic of conversation. There was a lot of talk about his swing change and his whiff rate as a result of it. This has had me thinking, do we think he sticks with this new setup? His prior swing/setup was gorgeous, and now there's more moving parts that probably hinder his ability to stay consistent.
Is there a happy medium between new and old that could help him cut down on the swing and miss?
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