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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Dec 9, 2020 14:38:42 GMT -5
Don't know why the Mets didn't just go after Realmuto if they were going after a catcher for that many years.
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Post by ematz1423 on Dec 9, 2020 14:48:28 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised they are going with McCann over realmuto but the AAV will probably be something like $10 million less per year. Maybe they want to spend the big bucks on Springer and/or Bauer which is understandable. I think its been vastly overblown how much the Mets are going to spend per year because of Cohen.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Dec 9, 2020 15:47:35 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised they are going with McCann over realmuto but the AAV will probably be something like $10 million less per year. Maybe they want to spend the big bucks on Springer and/or Bauer which is understandable. I think its been vastly overblown how much the Mets are going to spend per year because of Cohen. That's exactly what they're doing.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 9, 2020 15:53:16 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised they are going with McCann over realmuto but the AAV will probably be something like $10 million less per year. Maybe they want to spend the big bucks on Springer and/or Bauer which is understandable. I think its been vastly overblown how much the Mets are going to spend per year because of Cohen. We'll see. If it's Springer or Bauer then perhaps you're right about it being overblown. If they get both, then I think it's fair to think that they spend a lot relative to all of the other teams. I almost hope it's both because I'd hate to see Bauer in pinstripes.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Dec 9, 2020 17:51:33 GMT -5
Let's hope this gets the ball rolling for the rest of the offseason.
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Post by radiohix on Dec 10, 2020 11:04:56 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Dec 10, 2020 11:27:10 GMT -5
That must make the Rays players feel really good about themselves..
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 10, 2020 14:15:55 GMT -5
Wow
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Dec 10, 2020 14:26:27 GMT -5
Lol Mick Able is getting traded at some point now. I hope the Sox are in on him.
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Post by shagworthy on Dec 10, 2020 14:27:36 GMT -5
**rubs hands*** Let the fire-sale commence.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Dec 10, 2020 14:57:27 GMT -5
We were 3 months off from getting Alec Bohm for Brandon Workman
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 10, 2020 15:13:01 GMT -5
Jokes aside, I think Dombrowski for the most part has a good grasp of what prospects to keep and which ones to deal away.
The problems was that he thinned out the depth. He's pretty good at keeping the best prospects (although he did let Randy Johnson get away and eventually Eugenio Suarez), but as others pointed out, he gave away too much depth in deals. His other failings were to upgrade at the margins like Bloom does and the miscommunication about what he could spend going forward eventually arguably cost the Red Sox Mookie Betts.
But I would anticipate that Dombrowski will find a way to step the Phillies forward and he'll keep the frontline young talent and get rid of the Connor Seabolds of the world in other deals and eventually that will catch up to Philly. Of course what's curious is that he's not inheriting the talent the Sox handed him. He's got a good core, but he's going to have a tougher task to get Philly to win. With the Red Sox, he functioned as a "closer" GM. He'll have to handle the proverbial 7th and 8th innings as well in Philly.
Ah well, after LaRussa gets fired in Chicago, we now know where he'll land. lol
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Dec 10, 2020 16:10:40 GMT -5
Jokes aside, I think Dombrowski for the most part has a good grasp of what prospects to keep and which ones to deal away. The problems was that he thinned out the depth. He's pretty good at keeping the best prospects (although he did let Randy Johnson get away and eventually Eugenio Suarez), but as others pointed out, he gave away too much depth in deals. His other failings were to upgrade at the margins like Bloom does and the miscommunication about what he could spend going forward eventually arguably cost the Red Sox Mookie Betts. But I would anticipate that Dombrowski will find a way to step the Phillies forward and he'll keep the frontline young talent and get rid of the Connor Seabolds of the world in other deals and eventually that will catch up to Philly. Of course what's curious is that he's not inheriting the talent the Sox handed him. He's got a good core, but he's going to have a tougher task to get Philly to win. With the Red Sox, he functioned as a "closer" GM. He'll have to handle the proverbial 7th and 8th innings as well in Philly. Ah well, after LaRussa gets fired in Chicago, we now know where he'll land. lol I think Dombrowski asks one or two questions when it comes to prospects- "How long until they get to majors and how much of a impact will they make when they get there immediately?" For a guy like Mick Able, it won't be anytime soon. A high schooler who just got taken in the first round, he'll be treated like Anderson Espinoza. Gone for the best offer he can get. I don't know the rest of the Phillies system but if a lot of it is depth or bulk instead of elite guys, they'll all be gone too. The only prospect that Dombrowski kept here that was the furthest from the majors I think was Devers. It turned out that Devers was a year and a half a away from the majors in Dombrowski's first off-season with the Sox.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 10, 2020 16:19:06 GMT -5
Jokes aside, I think Dombrowski for the most part has a good grasp of what prospects to keep and which ones to deal away. The problems was that he thinned out the depth. He's pretty good at keeping the best prospects (although he did let Randy Johnson get away and eventually Eugenio Suarez), but as others pointed out, he gave away too much depth in deals. His other failings were to upgrade at the margins like Bloom does and the miscommunication about what he could spend going forward eventually arguably cost the Red Sox Mookie Betts. But I would anticipate that Dombrowski will find a way to step the Phillies forward and he'll keep the frontline young talent and get rid of the Connor Seabolds of the world in other deals and eventually that will catch up to Philly. Of course what's curious is that he's not inheriting the talent the Sox handed him. He's got a good core, but he's going to have a tougher task to get Philly to win. With the Red Sox, he functioned as a "closer" GM. He'll have to handle the proverbial 7th and 8th innings as well in Philly. Ah well, after LaRussa gets fired in Chicago, we now know where he'll land. lol I think Dombrowski asks one or two questions when it comes to prospects- "How long until they get to majors and how much of a impact will they make when they get there immediately?" For a guy like Mick Able it won't be anytime soon. A high schooler who just got taken in the first round, he'll be treated like Anderson Espinoza. Gone for the best offer he can get. I don't know the rest of the Phillies system but if a lot of it is depth or bulk instead of elite guys, they'll all be gone too. The only prospect that Dombrowski kept here that was the furthest from the majors I think was Devers. It turned out that Devers was a year and a half a away from the majors in Dombrowski's first off-season with the Sox. You're forgetting Mata. He protected Mata. I think he regarded him highly. Even when he wasn't that well known. If he likes Abel, he'll protect him as much as possible unless temptation sets in.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Dec 10, 2020 16:22:55 GMT -5
That's somewhat true, but Mata wasn't held in the same regard as Espinoza or Abel at the time they were signed/selected. Mata signed a 10 thousand dollar bonus and was walking a ton of guys when Dombrowski was here. I don't think his prospect stock was really all that high where he could have traded him for something good.
Whereas if you trade Abel or Espinoza back then, you know you're getting something in return.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 10, 2020 16:56:15 GMT -5
Yeah if you read Homegrown, while he was willing to move guys, he wasn't reckless in doing so. Moncada and Kopech were really the only ones that were painful to move, and he knew to draw the line when the White Sox wanted Devers as well.
Again, the issue is that he sees trading as how many players do I need to give you to get player X, and doesn't really worry about haggling excessively or about attempting to get another piece from the other team. Small moves around the margins aren't his forte. But he can build a winner.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Dec 10, 2020 17:13:36 GMT -5
Dombrowski will make them a World Series contender. He's going to also leave the farm in shambles when he leaves.
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Post by soxaddict on Dec 10, 2020 17:20:34 GMT -5
Yeah if you read Homegrown, while he was willing to move guys, he wasn't reckless in doing so. Moncada and Kopech were really the only ones that were painful to move, and he knew to draw the line when the White Sox wanted Devers as well. Again, the issue is that he sees trading as how many players do I need to give you to get player X, and doesn't really worry about haggling excessively or about attempting to get another piece from the other team. Small moves around the margins aren't his forte. But he can build a winner. Absolutely! Dombrowski can build a winner. The Phils have some good core players to build around. If I was a Philly fan, I’d be stoked to get Dave. I love the way he works. He makes deals for difference makers.
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Post by rminns10 on Dec 10, 2020 18:15:44 GMT -5
Bryce getting an extension and a raise
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 11, 2020 0:22:15 GMT -5
Mark Feinsand @feinsand · 9h Source: The Rays are trading 1B Nate Lowe to the Rangers. Hearing C/OF Heriberto Hernandez is the primary piece going back to Tampa Bay. Additional prospects are involved in the deal. . . . Mark Feinsand @feinsand · 9h Here is the complete, official deal:
The Rangers have acquired 1B Nate Lowe and 1B Jake Guenther, along with a player to be named later, from the INF Osleivis Basabe, C/OF Heriberto Hernandez and OF Alexander Ovalles. . . . Basabe is a long lost triplet. . . . Eric Cross @ericcross04 · 9h While the #Rays traded away a great bat in Nate Lowe, they also acquired one with Heriberto Hernandez.
Career (473 PA): .320/.450/.635, 17.3 BB%, 21.4 K%, 23 HR, 11 SB
Potential for plus hit & plus power.
Bad defensively, but this could be a very special bat.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Dec 11, 2020 6:49:56 GMT -5
What is the last trade that the Rays "lost"?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 11, 2020 18:35:41 GMT -5
Mets are interviewing Red Sox Assistant GM Zack Scott as part of their GM search per Heyman.
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Post by cdj on Dec 11, 2020 19:52:42 GMT -5
What is the last trade that the Rays "lost"? Probably the Wil Myers 3 way? And that’s because if I’m breaking it down correctly they could have flipped him for Turner and Joe Ross but opted for Souza instead They don’t lose often that’s for sure
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 11, 2020 23:02:15 GMT -5
Jerry Blevins @jerryblevins · 1h According to sources, I have signed back with the Mets. It is true! My family and I are looking forward to being back with our Mets family. I'll be doing an interview on @snytv at some point to talk more about it. But I can't exaggerate about how grateful I am to be a Met again.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 12, 2020 5:07:16 GMT -5
In a major move, the Yankees signed Nestor Cortes.
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