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Post by ianrs on Mar 19, 2021 20:55:15 GMT -5
Definitely an indictment of Stevens. Really a management failure all around coupled with some unfortunate injury luck makes Jack a dull boy.
At least Semi got a DNP lol
Excellent job by Ainge turning 3 1sts into an average backup point guard.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 19, 2021 21:09:00 GMT -5
Hey at least Timelord was pretty good again!
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 19, 2021 21:45:10 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Mar 19, 2021 22:29:03 GMT -5
The price on Aaron Gordon is apparently a quality young player and a 1st
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 19, 2021 22:33:57 GMT -5
Game 41 before we finally get the playoff lineup. I'm actually feeling about as good as you can after a loss and with a losing record. I thought they actually didn't play horrible, the rust with that unit shows. I don't mind Holmes blocking Tatum and Brown, that's the type of plays I want those two guys taking. It wasn't perfect, Walker is going to drive me nuts, yet it felt like progress. Now let them form chemistry together.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 19, 2021 23:04:58 GMT -5
The price on Aaron Gordon is apparently a quality young player and a 1st Pass.
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Post by philarhody on Mar 20, 2021 6:09:07 GMT -5
This guy will definitely solve your chemistry issues...
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Post by dyoungteach on Mar 20, 2021 9:04:57 GMT -5
Definitely an indictment of Stevens. Really a management failure all around coupled with some unfortunate injury luck makes Jack a dull boy. At least Semi got a DNP lol Excellent job by Ainge turning 3 1sts into an average backup point guard. But according to some that’s a great draft by someone who makes great draft picks....and we wonder why we are 8th place sub .500 with two under 25 all stars. Because we accept this level of “ greatness”
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 20, 2021 10:12:17 GMT -5
Definitely an indictment of Stevens. Really a management failure all around coupled with some unfortunate injury luck makes Jack a dull boy. At least Semi got a DNP lol Excellent job by Ainge turning 3 1sts into an average backup point guard. But according to some that’s a great draft by someone who makes great draft picks....and we wonder why we are 8th place sub .500 with two under 25 all stars. Because we accept this level of “ greatness” Totally, your level of acceptance will affect the standings. If only everyone understood this, they’d be a Title team. If you were a real fan, you’d be on the road getting this very important message out.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 20, 2021 10:12:34 GMT -5
How about that D by Pritchard on Barnes?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 20, 2021 10:40:12 GMT -5
www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2020.htmlI really hate people who don't have better ideas attacking a GM. What would you have done? I'm on record, I would have taken Anthony, Bane, then toss Carey, Oturu, Tillman and Woodard in a hat and pick one. Then Grant Riller or Paul Reed in the second round. That's what I would have done given the way the draft happened. I'm on record saying I wanted Turner, heck I was pounding the table to get him. I would have taken Turner, McDermott and a first all day long. I'm on record saying I wanted Clarke over Grant Williams. I'm on record saying I hated the Thompson and Teague signings. So what would you guys have done? What do you think we need to do to fix things? Come on give it a shot, playing GM is crazy hard, now try actually being one. You really have no clue until you dig in and try it. Build a team, factor in the salary cap and what works in Steven's system. Take into account chemistry, player timelines and if they fit our culture. Account for how much you can spend and what our owner is willing to pay in luxury taxes. Then plan it out five years down the road. Then you'll start to get an idea. Keep track of who you wanted in the draft and how they turn out versus who Danny took. Keep track of trades you wanted and how they worked out. There's a reason why we defend Danny. Langford is just an extra pick because of Danny's trade with Philly, brilliant. Nesmith is the return for Jeff Green, yeah that Jeff Green. He had a bad off-season, check that a horrible off-season. It happens, no one is perfect. Now let's see what he will do to fix it. Come on give it a try, I dare you!
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Post by rjw on Mar 20, 2021 13:35:26 GMT -5
My draft would have been Nesmith, Bane, Oturu, then Riller in the 2nd and Diakite as an undrafted free agent.
I would have done the Turner, McDermott, 1st-rounder deal.
Then see what kind of deal(s) I could get for some combination of Theis, GWill, Semi, one or two of the bench warmers, and maybe the 1st.
Then after all that, I can say with great certainty that I have absolutely no idea if this version of the team would be any good or not.
Maybe that would qualify me to be GM of the Pistons?
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Post by dyoungteach on Mar 20, 2021 14:24:27 GMT -5
www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2020.htmlI really hate people who don't have better ideas attacking a GM. What would you have done? I'm on record, I would have taken Anthony, Bane, then toss Carey, Oturu, Tillman and Woodard in a hat and pick one. Then Grant Riller or Paul Reed in the second round. That's what I would have done given the way the draft happened. I'm on record saying I wanted Turner, heck I was pounding the table to get him. I would have taken Turner, McDermott and a first all day long. I'm on record saying I wanted Clarke over Grant Williams. I'm on record saying I hated the Thompson and Teague signings. So what would you guys have done? What do you think we need to do to fix things? Come on give it a shot, playing GM is crazy hard, now try actually being one. You really have no clue until you dig in and try it. Build a team, factor in the salary cap and what works in Steven's system. Take into account chemistry, player timelines and if they fit our culture. Account for how much you can spend and what our owner is willing to pay in luxury taxes. Then plan it out five years down the road. Then you'll start to get an idea. Keep track of who you wanted in the draft and how they turn out versus who Danny took. Keep track of trades you wanted and how they worked out. There's a reason why we defend Danny. Langford is just an extra pick because of Danny's trade with Philly, brilliant. Nesmith is the return for Jeff Green, yeah that Jeff Green. He had a bad off-season, check that a horrible off-season. It happens, no one is perfect. Now let's see what he will do to fix it. Come on give it a try, I dare you! Honestly. I was ok with the first pick or exactly the way you said it. I loved Xavier Tillman. And bane was hard to pass on. I never would have used a pick to essentially clear cap room for Tristan Thompson. That was horrible then. It’s horrible now. Look I’m a huge Celtics fan going back to Larry bird years. All I’m saying is ainge is starting to come off as an average gm
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Mar 20, 2021 14:33:56 GMT -5
The price on Aaron Gordon is apparently a quality young player and a 1st So if I knew this after the 8-3 start, I'd be of the mind set that we'll have a bottom of the round pick and between Langford and Nasmith we have some redundancy there so I'd be all for it. Now the first round pick is getting better by the game and it's getting harder and harder to know what the right move is but something needs to be done. A lot of us invest a lot of time in the team and feel the need to blame something when it goes sideways. Two things, there is still time to right the ship AND it's not Danny's fault, nor Stevens nor any one player, more often than not when things go awry it's most of the people involved fault. I think I'd exclude Time Lord and throw the rest into one big pot. Injuries have played a key roll in this and that's not anyone fault. I blame Stevens for not getting Timelord more minutes sooner because of injuries that has held him back, Danny is better than average making picks but he's struggled to make an impactful trade for a while now. The Hayward issue came out of left field and no-one could have anticipated what occurred, no-one. Danny overplayed his hand because it looked like he definitely could. I even blame Tatum and Brown as their D late in games does not appear to be what I had seen before. I don't like Walker nor Smart taking any fourth quarter 3's unless it's wide open and the clock is winding down. How can you judge Danny's last few drafts on a team that was starter rich, the only chance they'd get was off the bench therefore the development would be slow, case in point, Timelord year 3. Sure it sucks to see what has happened, I'm pissed but don't channel your rage on one target because the blame pie can be shared by nearly everyone. And there is still time to right the ship.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 21, 2021 9:20:50 GMT -5
Danny needs to finally pick a path. For like the last decade he's been brilliant at building good teams while also building towards the future. That needs to stop. I'm not saying go full on LeBron Cavs, yet this team doesn't need another young player.
Many different ways to forge ahead, yet it's time to start constructing a Championship team.
Some think trading a first is harder now, I say we now have a more valuable trade chip. Most contenders will be offer late firsts, we can offer a pick that's middle of the first. That pick is likely at it's peak value right now.
No reason to be stupid, yet you should be aggressive. Yet some of these prices are crazy, people talking of Larry Nance Jr. costing two first round picks. Solid piece, he certainly helps. He's not worth two first round picks though.
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Post by ianrs on Mar 21, 2021 16:49:46 GMT -5
Excellent work by Brad and Danny getting Jaylen Brown to hit 10 threes today
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 21, 2021 17:52:28 GMT -5
Excellent work by Brad and Danny getting Jaylen Brown to hit 10 threes today Brad actually gave 20 minutes to Semi, so he only gets a "good job".
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Post by ianrs on Mar 21, 2021 18:50:44 GMT -5
Excellent work by Brad and Danny getting Jaylen Brown to hit 10 threes today Brad actually gave 20 minutes to Semi, so he only gets a "good job". True. Really glad to see Nesmith getting a solid 15 mins though and hope it keeps up.
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Post by cdj on Mar 21, 2021 19:58:52 GMT -5
The Celtics and Hawks Collins discussions have also included Bogdanovic
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 21, 2021 20:09:31 GMT -5
The Celtics and Hawks Collins discussions have also included Bogdanovic Why would they trade Collins, they have a better record than we do LOL.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 21, 2021 20:17:39 GMT -5
The Celtics and Hawks Collins discussions have also included Bogdanovic Why would they trade Collins, they have a better record than we do LOL. Per reports they don't want to pay him what he wants.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 21, 2021 20:20:46 GMT -5
The Celtics and Hawks Collins discussions have also included Bogdanovic That's crazy interesting, fixes a few issues and likely makes the cost seem better because it's two players. As long as our owner is willing to pay a big tax bill going forward, that's crazy interesting. Also wouldn't Collins be a nice piece to get Bradley Beal this off-season?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 21, 2021 20:22:53 GMT -5
No imagine flipping Thompson for Graham. That would check all boxes, it's nice to dream🤣
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Post by cdj on Mar 21, 2021 20:40:01 GMT -5
Why would they trade Collins, they have a better record than we do LOL. Per reports they don't want to pay him what he wants. That and there are rumors that him and Trae Young do not like each other- seems like he’s definitely getting moved The trade rumor is per Kevin O’Connor The price on Collins is said to be a young player and a 1st
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 21, 2021 22:21:26 GMT -5
I wonder if Danny is trying to get a better deal by offering to take Bogdanovic like he's doing them a favor given his crappy start.
Rumors say the price for Minnesota was Beasley and a first, they said no. That's a long way off from what we can offer.
Yet if you want to make a move Collins and Bogdanovic is the type of move I like. If you can pull off Thompson for Graham you have literally rebuilt the team overnight into a true contender. Well based on talent. He'll I wouldn't mind getting back Rondo.
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