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Post by philarhody on Jan 1, 2021 19:25:35 GMT -5
I feel it’s going to take some time for TT and Theis to get used to each other That said we want TimeLord!!!!! We don’t want them to get used to each other. Their skill sets are redundant
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 1, 2021 19:37:34 GMT -5
Stevens is determined to make this two big lineup work. It makes no sense whatsoever, and it’s putting the Celtics at a disadvantage. Coaching malpractice.
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 1, 2021 19:41:41 GMT -5
I’m seriously tired of watching Grant get more minutes than Rob Williams. Stevens has no idea what he’s doing with these rotations.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 1, 2021 19:46:36 GMT -5
I’m seriously tired of watching Grant get more minutes than Rob Williams. Stevens has no idea what he’s doing with these rotations. Please, please take over as coach of the Celtics. It's obvious that you know so much more about coaching than Stevens. As you so correctly imply, he is the embodiment of the Peter Principle. If you had been coach, we would have several more championships. I'll do whatever I can to support your pursuit and return us to the throne. Just let me know. Yours, Sarasoxer
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 1, 2021 19:51:09 GMT -5
I’m seriously tired of watching Grant get more minutes than Rob Williams. Stevens has no idea what he’s doing with these rotations. Please, please take over as coach of the Celtics. It's obvious that you know so much more about coaching than Stevens. As you so correctly imply, he is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.If you had been coach, we would have several more championships. I'll do whatever I can to support your pursuit and return us to the throne. Just let me know. So you’re saying it makes sense Grant played twice as many minutes as Rob? Got it.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 1, 2021 20:27:34 GMT -5
Please, please take over as coach of the Celtics. It's obvious that you know so much more about coaching than Stevens. As you so correctly imply, he is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.If you had been coach, we would have several more championships. I'll do whatever I can to support your pursuit and return us to the throne. Just let me know. So you’re saying it makes sense Grant played twice as many minutes as Rob? Got it. Absolutely got it...point taken. But perhaps you misunderstood. I know that you are, at base, a diehard Celtic fan who lives and dies each game and maybe possession by possession. Some might think that you are a bit negative, but I am on your train. If the Cs are to improve, they need consistent, critical, quality, expert analysis of the kind that you offer rather than the usual fanboy pablum. I honestly think that you are onto something. Is there any way that you can connect with Celtic management to get broader exposure?
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Post by homerdante on Jan 1, 2021 20:36:37 GMT -5
Observations tonight so far:
Tatum's handle really isn't amazing. I wonder if he'll ever focus on improving it. Many nights he's pretty sloppy with it.
The Refs absolutely blow tonight. I can't believe some of the calls tonight.
Smart has no handle tonight either. When he doesn't have have a handle it looks like all his fine motor skills are just off a little bit. His passes float into the back court, or out of bounds, or just miss targets entirely.
Detroit looks like a dirty team, lots of cheap shots.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jan 1, 2021 20:58:20 GMT -5
Payton Pritchard may have bailed Danny out LOL. Come on, give Danny his due.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jan 1, 2021 21:01:44 GMT -5
Please, please take over as coach of the Celtics. It's obvious that you know so much more about coaching than Stevens. As you so correctly imply, he is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.If you had been coach, we would have several more championships. I'll do whatever I can to support your pursuit and return us to the throne. Just let me know. So you’re saying it makes sense Grant played twice as many minutes as Rob? Got it. If G. Williams played at exclusively the 5, then I'd be with you. Also the coach has to balance the actual in game play with the overall seasonal development.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 1, 2021 21:13:31 GMT -5
Observations tonight so far: Tatum's handle really isn't amazing. I wonder if he'll ever focus on improving it. Many nights he's pretty sloppy with it. The Refs absolutely blow tonight. I can't believe some of the calls tonight. Smart has no handle tonight either. When he doesn't have have a handle it looks like all his fine motor skills are just off a little bit. His passes float into the back court, or out of bounds, or just miss targets entirely. Detroit looks like a dirty team, lots of cheap shots. Yeah. Tatum has never been great going to the hoop regardless of his height...He is smooth but not a leaper or a good finisher....3 pointers and fade away jumpers are the niche. His handle has always been a bit suspect. He doesn't have Brown's quick twitch and explosiveness IMO. I honestly feel that Brown has more upside and can score in a greater variety of ways. I also think that Brown has become better than Tatum defensively.
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 1, 2021 21:13:33 GMT -5
This team plays such unintelligent offense in crunch time.
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Post by homerdante on Jan 1, 2021 21:17:34 GMT -5
This team plays such unintelligent offense in crunch time. Shouldn't it be obvious to a professional team that some nights certain players are on and some nights they're off? Tonight, Smart's shooting is literally missing, 100%. Air ball 3s, all his shots just way offline generally except one or two 5 footers. WHY is he taking crunch time shots? WHY?!?
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 1, 2021 21:18:33 GMT -5
Weird losses happen during a season, but that’s just pathetic. Poor effort for the majority of the game, and even worse coaching and execution down the stretch. This team has such a long way to go.
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Post by cdj on Jan 1, 2021 22:02:42 GMT -5
I’ve never seen somebody bitch so much about a coach that’s been to a conference final every time he hasn’t had a cancer in the locker room the last 4 years
Tiresome tbh.
Grant plays a different position than TimeLord then TimeLord got injured. Also Grant played pretty well tonight and was playing good defense in the second half against I believe Jerami Grant whenever I saw him (who was eating the Celtics up in the earlier portions of the game)
Tatum needs to be more efficient. Theis needs to shape up or get out of the rotation. If TimeLord is hurt then he won’t be going anywhere but maybe Brad will just go with one of them off the bench since he doesn’t have center depth on the bench anymore
Also as an aside Jerami Grant gambled on himself being able to handle a bigger role and boy was he right . Didn’t see the scoring happening like it currently is for him
Bad game, bad loss. Happens over the course of an NBA season. Don’t make it a regularity.
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Post by cdj on Jan 1, 2021 22:09:36 GMT -5
Also 8-31 from 3
Not gonna win many games if you rely on 3’s and shoot under 30%. Just a bad showing. They live and die by the 3 ball.
What’s the situation with Fournier and Gordon- possible to bring them both in with the TPE + added salary (like Theis + Grant + Langford and probably picks)? Is that a thing that can happen? I don’t have a doctorate from Harvard so I don’t have a full grasp on trade exceptions or the nba salary cap other than knowing stuff needs to match lol
You only do that if you really want to go for it this year though. I don’t think it’s time personally
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 1, 2021 23:35:51 GMT -5
Weird losses happen during a season, but that’s just pathetic. Poor effort for the majority of the game, and even worse coaching and execution down the stretch. This team has such a long way to go. 0 depth, 0 margin for error.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Jan 2, 2021 1:18:01 GMT -5
Robert Williams missed a ton of time last year with injuries. Durability is becoming a thing to watch out for with him.
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Post by ianrs on Jan 2, 2021 2:16:52 GMT -5
I know Stevens likes to experiment with lineups against crappy teams, but come on. Play lineups that actually have a chance ever playing together in the playoffs, wtf. And so our guys can rest closer to playoffs.
This two big crap is absolutely putrid and a failure in roster building as much as a failure in coaching. Its not surprising our rotations are crap when we replaced Kemba with.... Another center in the lineup?
Theis should be traded ASAP, or just alternate resting Theis and Thompson.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 2, 2021 6:36:33 GMT -5
Robert Williams missed a ton of time last year with injuries. Durability is becoming a thing to watch out for with him. He missed time with one major injury, is he injured? I can't find any reports right now, he left the game after banging knees in the 4th.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 2, 2021 7:06:04 GMT -5
This team currently has little depth and Steven's is trying to use our best depth at center to cover for it. Yet that is just making things worse. You can't play two non scoring bigs together in today's NBA. Even then WTF is he not playing Williams with one of them? At least he adds rim running.
Thompson and Theis played 50 minutes, gave you 7 points combined. Tatum and Brown are doing well, they just need help! So yeah this is on Danny and Steven's is just making matters worse because Danny gave him great depth with non scoring centers.
I mean Bane, the guy we had to trade away looks like exactly what we need. Time will tell, yet right now many rookies look better than Nesmith. I loved getting to see him play, yet he looks lost. He didn't even know who to guard on a fast break. So any meaningful help from him is likely much later in the season.
You need Walker and I really wanna see Langford as we could use a guy on the bench to drive to the rim.
Yet till they return play some young guys. Play Green, play Edwards who finally showed some life. I love D, yet if you can't score more than 93 points you won't win many games. Till we get healthy we have to focus on offense, it clearly the big issue.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 2, 2021 7:42:06 GMT -5
This team plays such unintelligent offense in crunch time. Shouldn't it be obvious to a professional team that some nights certain players are on and some nights they're off? Tonight, Smart's shooting is literally missing, 100%. Air ball 3s, all his shots just way offline generally except one or two 5 footers. WHY is he taking crunch time shots? WHY?!? This is a weird comment as Smart was 3-6 from 3 on the night and I believe missed his last 2. One other one was just after the shot clock so in essence before his last 2 3s (which were wide open shots he should take) he was 4-5 on the night.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 2, 2021 7:50:26 GMT -5
Tatum’s problem isn’t getting to the rim, it’s finishing there. I don’t quite understand it, he was terrible early last year as well then got way better and then was great in the playoffs. He’s back to not finishing and avoiding contact.
With regards to Brown, he’s a true 3 level scorer now and can create for himself and is starting to create for others. This development is why I feel like talks on trading him is craziness. Brown and Tatum are the future of this league on the wing and you have them both AND they love each other and encourage and thrive off each other. That’s a literal jackpot. They are so freaking good, as feel like they fail when they don’t make a championship run yet no players their age do. It takes time to learn the nuances of the game and consistency . Like running the pick and roll as a ball handler and consistently finishing thru and drawing contact. I hate to get all scientific, but literal brain development doesn’t stop until 25. This is PART of why you get “late developers” and guys “figuring it out” and taking about the game “slowing down”.
Also, regarding Brown... people talk about his D and I think a lot of that is based on rep and how he came into the league, but he’s not consistent on that end. As he becomes more of a scorer he’s likely to pick more spots on that end as well. It’s hard to be fresh in the 4th while playing 35 minutes a night both ways.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 2, 2021 7:53:11 GMT -5
P-Rabbit had his first real rookie game. To be fair the entire team was a mess during the times he got his minutes but still not good even if it was inevitable to happen. Still helped create some turnovers while he was in there and played hard.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 2, 2021 12:05:27 GMT -5
Tatum’s problem isn’t getting to the rim, it’s finishing there. I don’t quite understand it, he was terrible early last year as well then got way better and then was great in the playoffs. He’s back to not finishing and avoiding contact. He's such a weird finisher because he has those long arms and yet it feels like once he gets to the rim he doesn't fully extend and just kind of YOLO lob it. IT could come back to coach him, now THAT dude could finish everything.
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Post by cdj on Jan 2, 2021 13:44:56 GMT -5
Robert Williams missed a ton of time last year with injuries. Durability is becoming a thing to watch out for with him. He missed time with one major injury, is he injured? I can't find any reports right now, he left the game after banging knees in the 4th. Stevens said he was made available late in the game by a trainer, should be just a little sore going forward
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