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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 19, 2021 0:47:06 GMT -5
That's just a straight out lie! Some of you just can't accept that people can like a coach and still point of his flaws. I think Steven's is the best Celtics coach of my generation, yet he's not perfect. It's not a lie, I don't think you are viewing this reasonably so that seemed like the most likely explanation. I can agree with everything else after your first sentence. Agree to disagree. I see the Timelord situation as being a good problem and I too would have liked to see Timelord start sooner but their is only 48 minutes a game out of the center position and the team had 3 candidates that all could have made a valid claim to start. From Celtics Blog, "Financially, the Daniel Theis trade makes sense. The Celtics avoided the luxury tax in an underwhelming season, delaying repeater penalties down the road by at least a year. They also simplified their rotation, scrapping the double-big lineups that never seemed to fully pan out this season. More minutes for Robert Williams seem to be in the cards, and they’ve cleared a roster spot to potentially add another contributor in the buyout market." I liked Theis alot, thought he was very underrated even by many Celts fans, but when you undertstand the financials of it and that he was about to become a free agent AND he was one of the only trades chips we had that had real value it does make sense. I for sure understand the financials. That quote is literally talking about stopping the two big lineups and playing Robert Williams more. It makes perfect sense if forcing Steven's to start Robert Williams and forcing Steven's from two big lineups was a big part of it. That's not a great thing because our talent is now less. That wasn't the best trade if maximizing talent is your goal. The Celtics are a more talented team with Theis over the other options. Green and Semi are too be free agents. Yet if you're the GM and you don't think your coach can simply bench a guy or play him less, you have to do certain things. The trade makes 100% sense, it isn't because that was the best deal to get under though. Hence my Steven's comments. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 19, 2021 7:16:56 GMT -5
Speaking of Stevens, reports are he turned down a 7 year 70m contract
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Post by mobaz on Apr 19, 2021 12:05:06 GMT -5
Speaking of Stevens, reports are he turned down a 7 year 70m contract That's the Rick Pitino Contract! |
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 19, 2021 12:36:05 GMT -5
Speaking of Stevens, reports are he turned down a 7 year 70m contract Stevens knows he has to finish what he started here. And he knows Tatum and Brown can take him there. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 19, 2021 12:57:11 GMT -5
The Celtics roster is what NBA coaches dream of. Two young all-star two way wing players, who both just keep getting better and are years away from their peak years. Robert Williams is just starting to breakout, he has top five center and DPOY upside. A stable of young players with talent, that just needs developmental time.
A GM that fixed his earlier mistakes and has finally given Steven's a balanced roster with enough talent to be legit contenders.
70 million is a lot of money, yet the top NBA coaches can make that. Pop makes more, Doc was making 10 million with the Clippers, got fired and is still making 8 million now. Does anyone have any numbers on Steven's contract extension? I can't find anything and I'm sure he got a lot more than the 3.66 million per in his first deal.
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Post by cdj on Apr 19, 2021 13:33:00 GMT -5
The Celtics roster is what NBA coaches dream of. Two young all-star two way wing players, who both just keep getting better and are years away from their peak years. Robert Williams is just starting to breakout, he has top five center and DPOY upside. A stable of young players with talent, that just needs developmental time. A GM that fixed his earlier mistakes and has finally given Steven's a balanced roster with enough talent to be legit contenders. 70 million is a lot of money, yet the top NBA coaches can make that. Pop makes more, Doc was making 10 million with the Clippers, got fired and is still making 8 million now. Does anyone have any numbers on Steven's contract extension? I can't find anything and I'm sure he got a lot more than the 3.66 million per in his first deal. I wanna say I saw 6-7 mill per somewhere? Could be mistaken tho |
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Post by cdj on Apr 19, 2021 20:12:45 GMT -5
Ainge on the broadcast tonight lol
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Post by cdj on Apr 19, 2021 20:33:48 GMT -5
I know he has a triple double but Tatum has been awful
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Post by cdj on Apr 19, 2021 20:42:15 GMT -5
Tremont is having himself quite a 4th quarter, he’s basically the engine keeping them in it right now
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 19, 2021 21:00:19 GMT -5
Speaking of Stevens, reports are he turned down a 7 year 70m contract Stevens knows he has to finish what he started here. And he knows Tatum and Brown can take him there. Being a college coach is kind of a nightmare - not only is recruiting a nonstop grind, but with the transfer portal, player turnover is at an all-time high. Unless Indiana was offering $150 million, it’s a pretty easy decision to stay in the NBA. |
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Post by cdj on Apr 20, 2021 8:33:50 GMT -5
The Celtics roster is what NBA coaches dream of. Two young all-star two way wing players, who both just keep getting better and are years away from their peak years. Robert Williams is just starting to breakout, he has top five center and DPOY upside. A stable of young players with talent, that just needs developmental time. A GM that fixed his earlier mistakes and has finally given Steven's a balanced roster with enough talent to be legit contenders. 70 million is a lot of money, yet the top NBA coaches can make that. Pop makes more, Doc was making 10 million with the Clippers, got fired and is still making 8 million now. Does anyone have any numbers on Steven's contract extension? I can't find anything and I'm sure he got a lot more than the 3.66 million per in his first deal. I wanna say I saw 6-7 mill per somewhere? Could be mistaken tho Woj confirmed this range as Brad’s salary on ESPN |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 20, 2021 13:27:13 GMT -5
I just want to see a few weeks where this team is fully healthy, heck at this point I'd settle for mostly. Fournier was bad enough, then Robert Williams was day to day yet missed his third game, then Smart and Walker. Injuries and illness happen, yet they keep happening in groups with us this year. No biggie it's just four of your top six players.
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Post by cdj on Apr 20, 2021 14:01:15 GMT -5
I just want to see a few weeks where this team is fully healthy, heck at this point I'd settle for mostly. Fournier was bad enough, then Robert Williams was day to day yet missed his third game, then Smart and Walker. Injuries and illness happen, yet they keep happening in groups with us this year. No biggie it's just four of your top six players. I will take one (1) game healthy with everybody at this point lol |
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 20, 2021 14:12:37 GMT -5
How about full health a week before the playoffs start and forward.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Apr 20, 2021 18:46:16 GMT -5
I know he has a triple double but Tatum has been awful His shooting was off other than that he was fine. Also the other team keyed in on him double teaming him. I had no problem with him nor the team as they were missing what could be close to a starting five for an average team, in Kemba, Smart, Founrier, Williams III (many nights that's 60% of our starting line-up and likely the sixth man). Semi has been disappointing as he seldom can finish when he drives to the night. Defense is fine and his 3 pt shooting is okay but he doesn't offer anything else, his roster spot going forward to next season will be redundant. Waters played very well, perhaps deserves a few minutes off the bench on a more consistent basis, let's see what he can do. G. Williams overall this year has been a little disappointing but has been better as of late. Brown came out on fire in the first then did very little after that last night, obviously he's been tremendous and is an extremely efficient scorer which leads me to believe he still has upside. Can we have one stretch when say the top 8 or 9 rotation players are healthy for ven 10 games, I think this team should be back in the conversation as a team that can win it all. Kemba has been better every month of the season and he's starting to peak at the exact right time, add Fournier, Parker and Romeo and we are deeper than last years team. |
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Post by cdj on Apr 20, 2021 19:51:50 GMT -5
I know he has a triple double but Tatum has been awful His shooting was off other than that he was fine. Also the other team keyed in on him double teaming him. I had no problem with him nor the team as they were missing what could be close to a starting five for an average team, in Kemba, Smart, Founrier, Williams III (many nights that's 60% of our starting line-up and likely the sixth man). Semi has been disappointing as he seldom can finish when he drives to the night. Defense is fine and his 3 pt shooting is okay but he doesn't offer anything else, his roster spot going forward to next season will be redundant. Waters played very well, perhaps deserves a few minutes off the bench on a more consistent basis, let's see what he can do. G. Williams overall this year has been a little disappointing but has been better as of late. Brown came out on fire in the first then did very little after that last night, obviously he's been tremendous and is an extremely efficient scorer which leads me to believe he still has upside. Can we have one stretch when say the top 8 or 9 rotation players are healthy for ven 10 games, I think this team should be back in the conversation as a team that can win it all. Kemba has been better every month of the season and he's starting to peak at the exact right time, add Fournier, Parker and Romeo and we are deeper than last years team. I thought his shooting was off because he taking horrible shots Romeo is an impressive shot blocker, that’s a development I wasn’t expecting |
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 21, 2021 3:47:08 GMT -5
I think it is just a matter of time that Romeo starts scoring also. He is going to be a very strong player as soon as he takes that step and plays with more and more confidence, it's coming.
I think when the playoffs start the C's are going to turn up the D and that will be the difference maker.
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Post by ianrs on Apr 21, 2021 10:38:28 GMT -5
I just want to see a few weeks where this team is fully healthy, heck at this point I'd settle for mostly. Fournier was bad enough, then Robert Williams was day to day yet missed his third game, then Smart and Walker. Injuries and illness happen, yet they keep happening in groups with us this year. No biggie it's just four of your top six players. Makes what Curry is doing way more impressive, skeleton of a real roster over in GS yet hes keeping them afloat, pretty incredible. Absolutely bombed Philly out of the building after a tough loss to us. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 21, 2021 13:32:30 GMT -5
I think it is just a matter of time that Romeo starts scoring also. He is going to be a very strong player as soon as he takes that step and plays with more and more confidence, it's coming. I don't think it's just confidence, have you seen the way he does layups? He has no idea what he's doing out there lol. His defensive game is really strong, but his offensive game is flat out broken right now. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 21, 2021 13:37:43 GMT -5
I just want to see a few weeks where this team is fully healthy, heck at this point I'd settle for mostly. Fournier was bad enough, then Robert Williams was day to day yet missed his third game, then Smart and Walker. Injuries and illness happen, yet they keep happening in groups with us this year. No biggie it's just four of your top six players. Makes what Curry is doing way more impressive, skeleton of a real roster over in GS yet hes keeping them afloat, pretty incredible. Absolutely bombed Philly out of the building after a tough loss to us. He's having a great season, yet I'd point out his top four starters have all played 50 games. Something only Tatum and Brown have for us. Yeah we have the more talented roster, yet our issues are we can't get the value out of it because we can't get that team on the floor. It's killing our chemistry, something Curry hasn't had to deal with. Curry isn't winning games while the team starts a Semi or when they are missing four of there top six players. Even a player as good a Curry can't win when that happens. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 21, 2021 13:40:47 GMT -5
I think it is just a matter of time that Romeo starts scoring also. He is going to be a very strong player as soon as he takes that step and plays with more and more confidence, it's coming. I don't think it's just confidence, have you seen the way he does layups? He has no idea what he's doing out there lol. His defensive game is really strong, but his offensive game is flat out broken right now. It's just confidence with him. I truly believe he's one big game away from breaking out. The only question for me is when that game happens. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 21, 2021 19:14:14 GMT -5
I think it is just a matter of time that Romeo starts scoring also. He is going to be a very strong player as soon as he takes that step and plays with more and more confidence, it's coming. I don't think it's just confidence, have you seen the way he does layups? He has no idea what he's doing out there lol. His defensive game is really strong, but his offensive game is flat out broken right now. Did you watch the video I think it was umass posted? He has been the first offensive choice his whole life til now, it will show up sooner or later. I hope |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 22, 2021 7:55:51 GMT -5
Romeo is the youngest player on the team still. He’s been injured a lot the last 3 years (including college). His development is definitely slowed as a result. It doesn’t mean it’s lowered longterm though, depending how he took advantage of his injured time, it’s possible he’s improved his long term outlook. For example, if he worked his left hand hard the past 6 months then he may have opened up more possibilities in his game. Just need patience.
It’s funny; before guys are drafted, we tend to look at them and say, he has work to do it will probably take a couple or few years but then afterwards, we get impatient quickly.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 22, 2021 8:54:18 GMT -5
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 22, 2021 11:41:55 GMT -5
Oh I didn't mean to say that Romeo is a no hoper, just that the problem with him isn't just confidence. He's fundamentally not there yet, he needs to drive with more balance, layup with more touch and shoot more fluidly. He's a work in progress and the fact he's so good on defense certainly makes me believe he'll get there on the other end too.
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