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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 22, 2021 13:43:05 GMT -5
Don I couldn't disagree more. Langford has the lowest usage rate on the entire team, even lower than Semi. This isn't Jaylen Brown his rookie year where his handle wouldn't allow him to do more. Langford is just not asserting himself. He's focusing on D and playing team ball. The one drive last game where he actually was forceful, you had Danny pointing out how the guy almost took his arm off.
It's 100% confidence with Langford. Go watch his high school and College tape versus how he's playing now. Go watch him in the G League. The things your describing are 100% about confidence, when a player hesitates because he doesn't yet have confidence in his offensive game at the NBA level. Which isn't a surprise for a 21 year old who has only played minor minutes in 41 games. He doesn't even have 500 minutes played in the NBA yet, Saddiq Bey a rookie has almost 1500 minutes played already.
You had Danny basically talking about Langford's driving last year like Doc with Bradley and his three point shot. It might not have shown up yet in games, yet it's there at practice.
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Post by ianrs on Apr 22, 2021 14:31:53 GMT -5
Oh Romeo is going to get there. And its going to be magical. Jerami Grant/Evan Turner hybrid with better handles at PG? Yes please as the perfect young complement wing to the Jays.
Now we just need Nesmith to turn into young Danny Green and we got a championship team.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 22, 2021 17:06:20 GMT -5
Yes, Romeo played the point the other day when Smart and Walker were out... in the first half - didn’t go well and that was it, but Brad said they wanted him in that role down the road.
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Post by ianrs on Apr 22, 2021 18:30:04 GMT -5
I just think Romeo has *it*, man. You can't teach his defensive instincts combined with his athleticism and wingspan. Once he figures it out offensively, the league better watch out.
I was so wrong about this team and I am very happy that I was wrong. Honestly, its a good lesson in being more understanding of the context surrounding the team, and how they were playing because of the difficulties within the team with COVID and injuries. That would make any season insanely hard. Its ridiculously impressive that they've bounced back the way that they have, because it would have been easy to mail it in (and I would not have blamed them).
If, *big* if - everybody is healthy - nobody is going to want to see us in the playoffs. 1-8 of Kemba-Smart-JB-Tatum-Timelord-Fournier-Langford-Thompson? Scary. Plug in Grant/Jabari/Pritchard if needed as a 9th man based on matchups and you have yourself a legitimate playoff threat.
Jabari Parker and Evan Fournier are exactly what we needed offensively: Complementary pieces who can finish (Parker) and hit 3s with a little creation equity (Fournier). Parker looks way better than I expected.
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Post by nomar on Apr 22, 2021 19:45:53 GMT -5
Langford needs to get better at shootingHe’s not elite enough athletically to compensate for being a bad shooter.
Great defensive player especially for his age
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Post by philarhody on Apr 22, 2021 21:14:18 GMT -5
Great win, although I think that was a fluky bad game for the Suns. 17% from three ain’t getting it done.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 22, 2021 22:21:27 GMT -5
Really good win, doing it against the Suns without Brown and with Tatum going 3-17 was great.
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Post by cdj on Apr 22, 2021 22:31:49 GMT -5
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 23, 2021 8:16:09 GMT -5
I just think Romeo has *it*, man. You can't teach his defensive instincts combined with his athleticism and wingspan. Once he figures it out offensively, the league better watch out. I was so wrong about this team and I am very happy that I was wrong. Honestly, its a good lesson in being more understanding of the context surrounding the team, and how they were playing because of the difficulties within the team with COVID and injuries. That would make any season insanely hard. Its ridiculously impressive that they've bounced back the way that they have, because it would have been easy to mail it in (and I would not have blamed them). If, *big* if - everybody is healthy - nobody is going to want to see us in the playoffs. 1-8 of Kemba-Smart-JB-Tatum-Timelord-Fournier-Langford-Thompson? Scary. Plug in Grant/Jabari/Pritchard if needed as a 9th man based on matchups and you have yourself a legitimate playoff threat. Jabari Parker and Evan Fournier are exactly what we needed offensively: Complementary pieces who can finish (Parker) and hit 3s with a little creation equity (Fournier). Parker looks way better than I expected. I really like that roster come playoffs if they can only stay healthy enough. I would expect Parker to get some increased minutes as the season goes on, they do have good versatility with the subs though. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 23, 2021 14:59:04 GMT -5
Langford needs to get better at shootingHe’s not elite enough athletically to compensate for being a bad shooter. Great defensive player especially for his age You are going to be surprised, he's a much better athlete than you're seeing on offense right now. Like you see it on D, not offense yet. I have zero worries about his athletic ability. Go watch his high school tape, college tape, his college dunk contest tape, his G league tape from last year. Nevermind one of his biggest strengths in finishing through contract, something we've yet to see from him yet in the NBA. |
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Post by nomar on Apr 23, 2021 15:47:16 GMT -5
Langford needs to get better at shootingHe’s not elite enough athletically to compensate for being a bad shooter. Great defensive player especially for his age You are going to be surprised, he's a much better athlete than you're seeing on offense right now. Like you see it on D, not offense yet. I have zero worries about his athletic ability. Go watch his high school tape, college tape, his college dunk contest tape, his G league tape from last year. Nevermind one of his biggest strengths in finishing through contract, something we've yet to see from him yet in the NBA. I’ve been watching him since HS but he’s never been a good shooter, and also doesn’t have a standout vertical jump. I know his percentage at the rim in college was great, but even if that comes to fruition he’s going to have to develop his jumper. |
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 23, 2021 19:36:03 GMT -5
I will never understand why Stevens is fine with Marcus’ horrible decision-making.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 23, 2021 20:08:30 GMT -5
I turned off the game after that horrendous Grant air ball.
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Post by ianrs on Apr 24, 2021 1:34:47 GMT -5
Unfortunate loss in what was a very winnable game, but honestly I just hope the guys are okay after Clarke's passing. Just a terrible tragedy and I imagine a lot of them who knew him personally were not all there mentally last night.
That said, I hope Semi and Grant don't sniff the floor in any meaningful games lol
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 24, 2021 5:42:02 GMT -5
The team was without Walker, Brown and Williams.
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Post by mobaz on Apr 24, 2021 5:57:50 GMT -5
And Fournier is feeling COVID effects. Will this team ever have a healthy Top 8?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 24, 2021 17:45:26 GMT -5
You are going to be surprised, he's a much better athlete than you're seeing on offense right now. Like you see it on D, not offense yet. I have zero worries about his athletic ability. Go watch his high school tape, college tape, his college dunk contest tape, his G league tape from last year. Nevermind one of his biggest strengths in finishing through contract, something we've yet to see from him yet in the NBA. I’ve been watching him since HS but he’s never been a good shooter, and also doesn’t have a standout vertical jump. I know his percentage at the rim in college was great, but even if that comes to fruition he’s going to have to develop his jumper. So you watched his HS tape that made him a top 5 recruit and thought he didn't have a standout vertical jump? You watched his dunk contest at Indiana and came away not impressed when he's throwing down 360 dunks? You watched that video claiming he had a 42" vertical going against Zion and weren't impressed with those high flying dunks? He hurt his thumb on his shooting hand early on in College, so we didn't see them. He's still trying to gain confidence in the NBA, so we haven't seen them. Yet I don't think the guy lost the ability to throw down monster dunks. Semi is an amazing athlete, he really is. You wouldn't know it watching him most games. Every now and then he does something to remind you he's a great athlete, yet not that often. He lacks skills to use it and frankly lacks confidence. He's not a alpha player, Langford has been. I'm slightly worried that we've seen almost no alpha in the NBA yet, then I remember he's hardly played. He's not being asked to just go out and develop his game, he's being asked to help a team win. Right now that's D and team ball. He has good ball skills, he's got good passing skills, he plays under control. I just see a guy that needs to adjust to the NBA game and get his confidence. Zero doubt in my mind he's going to be good going to the basket as soon as he starts attacking, looking for his offense. We've yet to see that swagger he has when he's comfortable. To reach his full potential of all star or near all star level, sure he needs to work on his shooting. I'm not actually worried, he kinda reminds me of Rozier. The shot looks good. I will say though he plays better with that swagger, rhythm, whatever you want to call it, like his shots look better off the dribble then just sitting around for open ones. My bigger worry is him staying healthy so he can develop, he's already had two major surgeries in two years. The first one got him off to a very late start last year, the second one ended his year just as he was coming on, cost him a full off-season and over half of this year. |
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Post by cdj on Apr 25, 2021 0:39:33 GMT -5
A Celtics fan tried to tell me the Celtics weren’t unlucky this season and I looked at them like they had 3 heads
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 25, 2021 12:35:29 GMT -5
A Celtics fan tried to tell me the Celtics weren’t unlucky this season and I looked at them like they had 3 heads They are unlucky, but also committing a million turnovers by players who shouldn’t be committing a million turnovers so they’ve been both unlucky and not controlling the stuff they can control |
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 25, 2021 12:39:40 GMT -5
This is a lazy, careless basketball team. They just think they can turn it on and off like they’re an established championship team.
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 25, 2021 12:52:23 GMT -5
Stick a fork in this season
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Post by nomar on Apr 25, 2021 13:23:41 GMT -5
I’ve been watching him since HS but he’s never been a good shooter, and also doesn’t have a standout vertical jump. I know his percentage at the rim in college was great, but even if that comes to fruition he’s going to have to develop his jumper. So you watched his HS tape that made him a top 5 recruit and thought he didn't have a standout vertical jump? You watched his dunk contest at Indiana and came away not impressed when he's throwing down 360 dunks? You watched that video claiming he had a 42" vertical going against Zion and weren't impressed with those high flying dunks? He hurt his thumb on his shooting hand early on in College, so we didn't see them. He's still trying to gain confidence in the NBA, so we haven't seen them. Yet I don't think the guy lost the ability to throw down monster dunks. Semi is an amazing athlete, he really is. You wouldn't know it watching him most games. Every now and then he does something to remind you he's a great athlete, yet not that often. He lacks skills to use it and frankly lacks confidence. He's not a alpha player, Langford has been. I'm slightly worried that we've seen almost no alpha in the NBA yet, then I remember he's hardly played. He's not being asked to just go out and develop his game, he's being asked to help a team win. Right now that's D and team ball. He has good ball skills, he's got good passing skills, he plays under control. I just see a guy that needs to adjust to the NBA game and get his confidence. Zero doubt in my mind he's going to be good going to the basket as soon as he starts attacking, looking for his offense. We've yet to see that swagger he has when he's comfortable. To reach his full potential of all star or near all star level, sure he needs to work on his shooting. I'm not actually worried, he kinda reminds me of Rozier. The shot looks good. I will say though he plays better with that swagger, rhythm, whatever you want to call it, like his shots look better off the dribble then just sitting around for open ones. My bigger worry is him staying healthy so he can develop, he's already had two major surgeries in two years. The first one got him off to a very late start last year, the second one ended his year just as he was coming on, cost him a full off-season and over half of this year. Lol he doesn’t have a standout vertical leap compared to NBA players. Look it up if you want. And he’s never been known for shooting. It is what it is. Hype him up all you want |
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 25, 2021 13:35:57 GMT -5
This team certainly responded to Stevens’ “coaching” at halftime.
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 25, 2021 13:59:24 GMT -5
Loser basketball team.
I don’t think you can say enough bad things about the Celtics’ coaching staff and team leaders. Take a look at the standings - this is a huge game against Charlotte, and they came out with zero energy. They’re getting punked by bad players like Brad Wanamaker on an injury-riddled Hornets team.
Complete clown show.
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Post by ianrs on Apr 25, 2021 14:39:57 GMT -5
I'm giving this team a pass, sorry. A 19 year old close with many of them passed away during the season from hell where half are injured and the other half got COVID and are out of shape.
Don't think it says shit about Brad, his character, or theirs.
And I still think nobody is going to want to see us in the playoffs if Timelord is healthy.
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