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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 4, 2021 20:01:45 GMT -5
Not to mention this two-big man lineup is a train wreck. Yeah, this shit is not going to work with THESE two big men. Not sure what Stevens sees there.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 4, 2021 20:16:48 GMT -5
I can’t believe I’m typing this but Semi should be starting instead of Theis.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 4, 2021 20:25:20 GMT -5
These minutes are important for Nesmith - he’s not playing well but he’s much better than his first game action
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 4, 2021 20:31:33 GMT -5
Payton Pritchard isn’t athletic enough to play in the NBA
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 4, 2021 20:34:14 GMT -5
I can’t believe I’m typing this but Semi should be starting instead of Theis. Yup, or Teague. The two-big lineup will have its moments this year, so it’s nice to have that option. But it’s clear they are not a good offensive or defensive team with it right now.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 4, 2021 20:39:11 GMT -5
Once Tatum starts going to the line with volume he will easily average 30 a game.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 4, 2021 21:07:31 GMT -5
Once Tatum starts going to the line with volume he will easily average 30 a game. He’s such a different guy when he takes it strong... going to be so frustrating the next game when he doesn’t .
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 4, 2021 21:33:18 GMT -5
I wonder if Tatum is going to bodyslam Waters after the game...
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Post by cdj on Jan 4, 2021 21:38:01 GMT -5
Payton Pritchard isn’t athletic enough to play in the NBA Sarcasm id imagine?
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 4, 2021 21:49:02 GMT -5
These minutes are important for Nesmith - he’s not playing well but he’s much better than his first game action I’m surprised he’s getting 0 second half minutes in this game.
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Post by cdj on Jan 4, 2021 21:54:03 GMT -5
Lolol subbing out the kids for blowing the lead
Walk of shame!
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Post by cdj on Jan 4, 2021 22:12:33 GMT -5
Idk what we have to do to convince them to play TimeLord at least 20 min every night but they need to do that
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 4, 2021 22:21:47 GMT -5
RWIII is such a game changer, he elevates this roster's ceiling so much. And Payton Pritchard, MAN. What wcp does for Brad, I usually do for Danny. I give him a lot of shit. But finding Timelord and 8 Mile late in the draft is a MASTERPIECE.
We still need a floor spacing big. I know this is not happening, but getting the Bulls to give up Lauri Legend would put us in championship territory.
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 4, 2021 22:24:07 GMT -5
Idk what we have to do to convince them to play TimeLord at least 20 min every night but they need to do that Theis is a nice player, but his minutes need to be situational right now - he just doesn’t bring as much to the table as Thompson and Williams at the moment. The minutes will be there over the course of the season, but they should not come at Williams’ expense.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 4, 2021 22:53:46 GMT -5
One thing about Theis is he’s great at opening driving lanes. His screening/sealing off the paint is top notch. Subtle under-rated skill.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 4, 2021 23:41:46 GMT -5
I don't get the Steven's crap. He might not be a top 3-5 guy, yet he's a top 10 coach. This teams issues are much more Danny and the roster. I wouldn't complain about D when a team is hot from deep. The fact three of your top 9 guys are basically centers in today's NBA is going to hurt your D. I'm still not sure the roster is Danny's "fault" either. They've lost 4 top-40ish players in the last 4 years (I'm including IT here) because Danny (rightly) kept three amazing youngsters as the heart of the team. The Hayward loss is the only one not accompanied by a backup plan, and that's because they were in a position of weakness with a really bad FA market and the youngsters not being cheap anymore. I'm glad we don't have Turner and McDermott clogging the cap space. Unless the medicals missed something, Kemba's knee got worse after he came over. I'm still okay with Thompson on the mid-level; I think his drive and rebounding will add a new dimension to the team. if you want to pick nits with Teague on Bi-annual, sure. I'm guessing the Trade exception doesn't get used effectively, and that will suck to lose GH for nothing. But I don't see a huge number of moves that Danny didn't make that I'd want them to. You went from maybe the deepest roster in the league, to one that's not that deep. Danny's made a ton of great moves. Yet there's a bunch you can question. I don't for a second think they didn't know Walker had big warning signs. His condition took years to develop, it wasn't an injury. He made center the deepest position and you can't play them together for a ton of minutes. The funny thing is, if he just takes Bane, he'd look brilliant right now. As you'd have Pritchard and Bane giving this team exactly what they need. Which frankly singles a bigger issue for me. He dumped Kanter thinking they'd be a tax team. The fact you don't think he uses the trade exception effectively is telling no?
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 5, 2021 7:38:26 GMT -5
Pretty exciting to think about the young talent on the C's, the 24 and under core is looking very good. Pritchard is looking like the #1 PG of the future after only 8 games. His ability and Bball intelligence is really something else. Can you remember a rookie being so poised and confident as to never pickup his dribble when driving the paint and then coming back out exploring the D? Heck veterans don't do it as well as he does. And don't give him space or he will knock down that 3!!! Hopefully Nesmith turns a corner and can get out there and start knocking down some 3's himself.
Pretty sure R Williams is part of the future and had hoped GW was also but is he? Is he too much of a tweener or can he become consistent from 3?
edit. Great game for P Rabbit and not the first time he was a spark off the bench.
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Post by ianrs on Jan 5, 2021 7:47:16 GMT -5
I'm still not sure the roster is Danny's "fault" either. They've lost 4 top-40ish players in the last 4 years (I'm including IT here) because Danny (rightly) kept three amazing youngsters as the heart of the team. The Hayward loss is the only one not accompanied by a backup plan, and that's because they were in a position of weakness with a really bad FA market and the youngsters not being cheap anymore. I'm glad we don't have Turner and McDermott clogging the cap space. Unless the medicals missed something, Kemba's knee got worse after he came over. I'm still okay with Thompson on the mid-level; I think his drive and rebounding will add a new dimension to the team. if you want to pick nits with Teague on Bi-annual, sure. I'm guessing the Trade exception doesn't get used effectively, and that will suck to lose GH for nothing. But I don't see a huge number of moves that Danny didn't make that I'd want them to. You went from maybe the deepest roster in the league, to one that's not that deep. Danny's made a ton of great moves. Yet there's a bunch you can question. I don't for a second think they didn't know Walker had big warning signs. His condition took years to develop, it wasn't an injury. He made center the deepest position and you can't play them together for a ton of minutes. The funny thing is, if he just takes Bane, he'd look brilliant right now. As you'd have Pritchard and Bane giving this team exactly what they need. Which frankly singles a bigger issue for me. He dumped Kanter thinking they'd be a tax team. The fact you don't think he uses the trade exception effectively is telling no? I clamored for Bane all draft, even saying we should take him at 14 if needed. He fell to 30 and we still let him slip through our fingers... I really hope Nesmith shows improvement, he has the tools but right now does not look even close to an NBA player.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 5, 2021 8:20:15 GMT -5
Pritchard, is a good example of a piece fitting, especially if his defense is real and continues to improve. Some people may not label him a true starting PG, but if you have 2 star wings like Tatum and Brown, his ability to create for others and hit a high percentage from 3 on both catch and shoot and step backs is perfect.
If we can add Jesusemilore Ojeleye as a 40+% 3 point shooter then, everything changes from a spacing perspective. We may have to start calling him Jesus instead of Semi.
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Post by cdj on Jan 5, 2021 9:25:04 GMT -5
Nesmith has no idea how to play defense at the NBA level. Not the first rookie to have issues with that, won’t be the last. It’s looking like this is going to be a developmental year for him, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Langford will be back to take away any minutes he would’ve gotten
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 5, 2021 9:44:11 GMT -5
Nesmith has no idea how to play defense at the NBA level. Not the first rookie to have issues with that, won’t be the last. It’s looking like this is going to be a developmental year for him, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Langford will be back to take away any minutes he would’ve gotten True, but no summer league, basically no camp and no preseason will so that. He was way better (not close to good) last night than he was in previous outings. It’s unfortunate, that Waters almost lead the team to giving the game away so they had to take him out after he just got back in. I was surprised they started Waters but then it was evident they did it to try and hide him because putting him out there with the second unit would have been a disaster. I like his confidence, but he needs to bottle that up and realize he’s not Steph Curry and White Chocolate combined reincarnated out there.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 5, 2021 12:01:54 GMT -5
You went from maybe the deepest roster in the league, to one that's not that deep. Danny's made a ton of great moves. Yet there's a bunch you can question. I don't for a second think they didn't know Walker had big warning signs. His condition took years to develop, it wasn't an injury. He made center the deepest position and you can't play them together for a ton of minutes. The funny thing is, if he just takes Bane, he'd look brilliant right now. As you'd have Pritchard and Bane giving this team exactly what they need. Which frankly singles a bigger issue for me. He dumped Kanter thinking they'd be a tax team. The fact you don't think he uses the trade exception effectively is telling no? I clamored for Bane all draft, even saying we should take him at 14 if needed. He fell to 30 and we still let him slip through our fingers... I really hope Nesmith shows improvement, he has the tools but right now does not look even close to an NBA player. I don't get it and Nesmith looking crazy raw just makes it look five times worse when Bane looks crazy good. I get not wanting many crazy raw rookies. I don't get not wanting an NBA ready SG who is a two way player and a great shooter.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 5, 2021 12:22:22 GMT -5
I clamored for Bane all draft, even saying we should take him at 14 if needed. He fell to 30 and we still let him slip through our fingers... I really hope Nesmith shows improvement, he has the tools but right now does not look even close to an NBA player. I don't get it and Nesmith looking crazy raw just makes it look five times worse when Bane looks crazy good. I get not wanting many crazy raw rookies. I don't get not wanting an NBA ready SG who is a two way player and a great shooter. The only quibble I have with this is Bane was drafted 30th over all - let’s slow the roll on “not wanting an NBA ready SG who is a two way player and great shooter”. If this was expected from Bane, he’s not going 30. Same goes for Pritchard at 26. Even if you liked the players you didn’t expect them to step in and be what they have been thus far.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 5, 2021 12:23:13 GMT -5
When’s the induction?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 5, 2021 13:36:54 GMT -5
I don't get it and Nesmith looking crazy raw just makes it look five times worse when Bane looks crazy good. I get not wanting many crazy raw rookies. I don't get not wanting an NBA ready SG who is a two way player and a great shooter. The only quibble I have with this is Bane was drafted 30th over all - let’s slow the roll on “not wanting an NBA ready SG who is a two way player and great shooter”. If this was expected from Bane, he’s not going 30. Same goes for Pritchard at 26. Even if you liked the players you didn’t expect them to step in and be what they have been thus far. Maybe you didn't, there's a reason I had Bane in play for pick 14. He was NBA ready, shot 43.3% over four years from deep, played D. His only downside was he was a senior and lacked the upside of other players. I would have taken Bane over Nesmith, I said that months ago. If you watched the amount of tape I did, it was clear Bane was going to be a good NBA player. Likely safest shooter in the draft and his weakness was he wouldn't be a star. Him going 30 is because teams like to shoot for the stars. I get it, it's why he wasn't a lock at 14 for me, I would have gambled on Cole Anthony's upside. Yet I'm not surprised by this, it's why I wanted him. He was a perfect fit for what we needed and I'm shocked he went 30th overall. Yet it happened all draft long, the older guys slid down the draft boards. I'm still shocked Grant Riller went so low. Bane is averaging 9.5 points through six games, Pritchard is averaging 8.6 points through eight games. That isn't shocking is it?
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