Patriots 2021 Offseason Thread

BTW - Jones seems like SUCH an "it all makes sense" pick that I have it in my head that BB is going to draft Davis Mills or Kellen Mond today just to mess with us.

All kidding aside, it wouldn't surprise me if he took a late round guy as well (if the "extra" picks aren't used to move up). Feleipe Franks checks a lot of boxes as a 6th/7th rd guy or priority FA.

 YES!!

And just to expound on that thought.  Burrow just like Jones was not thought of as being a top pick before his one breakout season. He had an incredible season surrounded by great talent, just like Jones. Jones actually broke some of Burrows records. So yes many had Jones at 3 but he did not get the same kind of praise as Burrow, sure Burrow is a little better athlete but Jones has been somewhat overlooked based on the talent around him while Burrow seemed to escape that narrative. Either way I am very happy to get him at 15 w.o. having to move up, very fortunate.

I think his greatest attributes are exactly what the Pats want their QB to do. Read the D, make the adjustments and the plays the D is giving you, make quick accurate throws. That is what Tom was so good at, not creating but just methodically taking what the D was giving, not getting too greedy downfield. Jones has the make up to be the same player and he is SMART which is important. 4.0 gpa graduating in 3 years and completing, i think, a masters degree. We shall see.

edit: And sure having those WR's helped a lot but how many of those throws were on time and in stride allowing them to run and create? 77% completion % is crazy good.

Yeah I think he's Bill's guy, he's not like other teams when they need a QB and they'll just take whatever one they can get. If he liked Fields he should and likely would have traded up.

The only thing that's scary with Mac Jones is what you don't see. After I first watched him Nesmith tape came to mind. The tape was awesome, yet how easy everything was scared me. Bill already said Newton's the starter, he'll deal with it if Stidham and Jones show they are ready. Which is smart, I'm a big believer in giving guys time. Let him adjust before you throw him into the fire.

I don't know, so much of that depends on how the team develops them and uses them. Fields is a crazy athlete, so his bar is crazy high. I don't like the fit with the Bears though, I didn't like how they used Trubisky. That wasn't a creative offense, I thought the 49ers and Patriot type offense would be better for him. Use his accuracy and allow him to grow. So I'll say Mac Jones because I know the Patriots offense fits him.

Me? I don't see anything.

Don't really care if it's him or not. Just checked some of the boxes that I described above (Kyed's "fit" score, Perry's Protypical Patriot). That's more useful than any analysis I, personally, can provide.

Read some other things about him being a type of guy BB might be interested in working with.

But the larger point is that I could see them bringing in someone else to work with for a stretch.

I'm talking conditions being easy. I can find Mac Jones wasn't sacked a lot, if I also had amount of hurries and QB hits you'd get a better picture. It wasn't just great talent, it was the combination was so good with coaching Mac Jones wasn't pressured like other QBs. Difference in making a great hard throw with a clean pocket versus one when your hurried and then also get hit a bunch after. How a QB responds to that, you don't see it, no D could do it to that offense. Sure give Mac some props, a QB can help reduce it, no QB makes it go away to his level. He's going to get hit in the NFL like he never did in College, much more under pressure throws. Maybe he's fine when that happens, yet I don't know because it never happened in College.