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Post by voiceofreason on May 23, 2021 5:41:22 GMT -5
Agree with everything except I have to point out Tuukka stood on his head the 2019 Stanley Cup playoff run. 15-9 ,2.02 GAA and a .934 Save percentage In 2013, 15-8, he had a 1.88 GAA and a .940 save percentage he's is way better than most Bruins fans will ever give him credit for, way better. Literally has the most playoff wins in this franchises century long history yet some fans claim he has never won a big game because he didn’t single handedly win a cup when the 1st line no-showed STL. It’s mind boggling, and honestly a little bit infuriating I can see how my comment could be misconstrued as a Rask assault but I am actually a big Rask fan and defender. Good to see you guys coming out in defense of him. His only true fault is that he is so technically sound that he makes it look too easy as he doesn't have to dive all over the place making saves look more spectacular ala Thomas. But Thomas did have one of the best goalie seasons of all time in 2011. Bottom line for Rask is that he will have his detractors until he helps win a cup and I am sure there will still be some who will still be critical even if he does. Go B's!! |
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Post by cdj on May 23, 2021 6:32:20 GMT -5
Literally has the most playoff wins in this franchises century long history yet some fans claim he has never won a big game because he didn’t single handedly win a cup when the 1st line no-showed STL. It’s mind boggling, and honestly a little bit infuriating I can see how my comment could be misconstrued as a Rask assault but I am actually a big Rask fan and defender. Good to see you guys coming out in defense of him. His only true fault is that he is so technically sound that he makes it look too easy as he doesn't have to dive all over the place making saves look more spectacular ala Thomas. But Thomas did have one of the best goalie seasons of all time in 2011. Bottom line for Rask is that he will have his detractors until he helps win a cup and I am sure there will still be some who will still be critical even if he does. Go B's!! just want to be clear that I didn’t think you were attacking Rask, my post is in regards to the vocal minority of Bruins fans who listen to too much sports radio and think the Bruins would have been better off keeping Martin Jones lol |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2021 7:35:52 GMT -5
I can see how my comment could be misconstrued as a Rask assault but I am actually a big Rask fan and defender. Good to see you guys coming out in defense of him. His only true fault is that he is so technically sound that he makes it look too easy as he doesn't have to dive all over the place making saves look more spectacular ala Thomas. But Thomas did have one of the best goalie seasons of all time in 2011. Bottom line for Rask is that he will have his detractors until he helps win a cup and I am sure there will still be some who will still be critical even if he does. Go B's!! just want to be clear that I didn’t think you were attacking Rask, my post is in regards to the vocal minority of Bruins fans who listen to too much sports radio and think the Bruins would have been better off keeping Martin Jones lol I like Rask and he’s been great overall, but he’s also been disappointing in situations. You pay a goalie 7m a year to pick your team up when the “first line disappears”. You’re taking Stanley Cup finals.. the other team is pretty freaking good too and when you only have one line, partially because your goalie makes so much money, they are going to get shutdown at times. The Great Ones step up and steal you those games. Fair or not that’s the reality of Rasks legacy, he hasn’t been that guy in the couple chances he has had to be it. I’d like them to resign him, but the number needs to be way lower. His age and injuries and his supposed desire to only play for the Bs should bring that number down close to $4m per season. He will be the number 1 still but basically split the net with Swayman. If he doesn’t want that, then I’d roll the dice with Swayman and sign a cheaper vet, like Halak but not him, and spend the money on other parts of the roster. |
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2021 9:05:44 GMT -5
Rask discussions get so ridiculous. Anyone who covered hockey, at all, acknowledged Rask was the best player int he whole tournament in 2019. It wasn't even up for debate, it was an accepted consensus. Then, when the heavily favored Bruins couldn't handle a rookie goaltender, and got themselves down with St. Louis just needing a home W to take the cup, it was up to Rask to save their bacon and force a game 7.
But then, in game 7 he couldn't save all of the ridiculously easy chances his team gave up, so that's his fault. It's even his salary, how dare he get paid?
The $20 mil #1 line full of Hall of Fame candidates? Don't worry guys, we don't mind you doing nothing.
The $7 mil 2nd line center? Have a cookie, David. It's OK to not show up for the biggest game of the year..
The goalie who carried you all the way to the brink of a Cup couldn't overcome the rest of his team sucking? Well then, it's all on him. What a loser.
It's really not worth discussing Tuuka anymore. Pointless.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2021 9:38:38 GMT -5
Rask discussions get so ridiculous. Anyone who covered hockey, at all, acknowledged Rask was the best player int he whole tournament in 2019. It wasn't even up for debate, it was an accepted consensus. Then, when the heavily favored Bruins couldn't handle a rookie goaltender, and got themselves down with St. Louis just needing a home W to take the cup, it was up to Rask to save their bacon and force a game 7. But then, in game 7 he couldn't save all of the ridiculously easy chances his team gave up, so that's his fault. It's even his salary, how dare he get paid? The $20 mil #1 line full of Hall of Fame candidates? Don't worry guys, we don't mind you doing nothing. The $7 mil 2nd line center? Have a cookie, David. It's OK to not show up for the biggest game of the year.. The goalie who carried you all the way to the brink of a Cup couldn't overcome the rest of his team sucking? Well then, it's all on him. What a loser. It's really not worth discussing Tuuka anymore. Pointless. I never said Rask was at fault, I just said he hasn’t stolen them that game like a lot of great netminders do. It’s just a fact. You want to talk about the first line also not coming thru, go for it. It’s a separate discussion and you won’t get pushback on it. People criticize Pasta and Marchand all the time. So you can only think someone is great if they are infallible? |
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Post by cdj on May 23, 2021 10:35:16 GMT -5
Rask discussions get so ridiculous. Anyone who covered hockey, at all, acknowledged Rask was the best player int he whole tournament in 2019. It wasn't even up for debate, it was an accepted consensus. Then, when the heavily favored Bruins couldn't handle a rookie goaltender, and got themselves down with St. Louis just needing a home W to take the cup, it was up to Rask to save their bacon and force a game 7. But then, in game 7 he couldn't save all of the ridiculously easy chances his team gave up, so that's his fault. It's even his salary, how dare he get paid? The $20 mil #1 line full of Hall of Fame candidates? Don't worry guys, we don't mind you doing nothing. The $7 mil 2nd line center? Have a cookie, David. It's OK to not show up for the biggest game of the year.. The goalie who carried you all the way to the brink of a Cup couldn't overcome the rest of his team sucking? Well then, it's all on him. What a loser. It's really not worth discussing Tuuka anymore. Pointless. I never said Rask was at fault, I just said he hasn’t stolen them that game like a lot of great netminders do. It’s just a fact. You want to talk about the first line also not coming thru, go for it. It’s a separate discussion and you won’t get pushback on it. People criticize Pasta and Marchand all the time. So you can only think someone is great if they are infallible? So basically you wanted him to win that game 1-0 and because he didn’t he’s not worth his contract and he doesn’t come through in big spots. Yeah.....no. That is entirely on line 1. Lololol cmon man. You don’t lead a franchise that’s been around for a century in playoff wins without stealing some big games Hell in 2013 he allowed 2 goals ALL SERIES to a team that at the time had the two best players in hockey To me he hasn’t been disappointing at all. Flawless? Far from it. But he should imo have a cup by now if winning a cup was based on individual merit because he was money in both 2013 and 2019. Like “best player in the playoffs” good Right now he has a 1.99 and .930 yet ppl were clamoring for Swayman In game 2. I just can’t stand some of these people lol |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 23, 2021 10:41:45 GMT -5
I'm not a huge hockey guy, yet how in the world hasn't Rask stolen you a win? His .922 save percentage for his career is 3rd all time. It only goes up to .926 for the playoffs. 4 million would tie him for 24/25th paid goalies in the NHL. That seems crazy.
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Post by cdj on May 23, 2021 10:44:39 GMT -5
I'm not a huge hockey guy, yet how in the world hasn't Rask stolen you a win? His .922 save percentage for his career is 3rd all time. It only goes up to .926 for the playoffs. 4 million would tie him for 24/25th paid goalies in the NHL. That seems crazy. I’m not gonna accuse anybody in here of saying that but it’s such a common narrative among the fanbase and it’s absolutely mind-blowing to me Basically the only important games we play in are games we lose, every other game doesn’t count. So discount the 54 playoff wins because he stole none of them and they were all unimportant |
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2021 18:18:43 GMT -5
Let's win this tonight. Don't give them any more chances to cheap shot our guys onto the injured list.
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Post by homerdante on May 23, 2021 19:14:18 GMT -5
Wow! Pasta! What a move. IF he comes back here into form, things could get exciting!
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2021 19:17:12 GMT -5
Wow! Pasta! What a move. IF he comes back here into form, things could get exciting! And it looks like he's getting into a rhythm. Beauty of a goal. And then one of the weakest Power Plays I've seen in a long time. |
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Post by homerdante on May 23, 2021 19:19:09 GMT -5
Wow! Pasta! What a move. IF he comes back here into form, things could get exciting! And it looks like he's getting into a rhythm. Beauty of a goal. And then one of the weakest Power Plays I've seen in a long time. Re: powerplay, agreed, that was horrific. Horrible luck too, that Taylor hall break in that rolled on him...ugh. |
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Post by cdj on May 23, 2021 19:20:49 GMT -5
Legitimately the worst PP I’ve ever seen that didnt result in a SHG I think
Terrible ice too. Gotta keep things simple, stop looking for the perfect pass
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2021 19:38:21 GMT -5
And it looks like he's getting into a rhythm. Beauty of a goal. And then one of the weakest Power Plays I've seen in a long time. Re: powerplay, agreed, that was horrific. Horrible luck too, that Taylor hall break in that rolled on him...ugh. Yeah, Hall had the only opportunity on the PP and it was pretty, but some bad luck. |
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2021 19:42:09 GMT -5
Legitimately the worst PP I’ve ever seen that didnt result in a SHG I think Terrible ice too. Gotta keep things simple, stop looking for the perfect pass Literally "the worst without giving up a SH Goal" was exactly what I almost said. |
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2021 20:13:56 GMT -5
That was ridiculously sloppy. Wake up, boys! The game ain't over!
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2021 20:28:55 GMT -5
Jesus. Thoroughly outplayed and we end up with a Goal. LOL. Love it.
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2021 20:34:35 GMT -5
No way.
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Post by cdj on May 23, 2021 20:39:19 GMT -5
wooooo boy this is intense lol
That goal light going on into a PP is a nice feeling
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2021 20:46:25 GMT -5
wooooo boy this is intense lol That goal light going on into a PP is a nice feeling That was inane. I was so afraid they were gonna come back from commercial and say that the puck had gone in the net somehow. |
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Post by homerdante on May 23, 2021 20:54:55 GMT -5
Great to get this series locked up tonight, and with the other series 2-2, they get a couple of days off for some extra icing/heating/icing. I bet there are some bodies in pain in that lineup.
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Post by cdj on May 23, 2021 21:11:21 GMT -5
Huge series win. Time to heal up the next handful of days
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 23, 2021 22:48:20 GMT -5
And on go the Bruins! Great series.
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Post by voiceofreason on May 24, 2021 3:38:16 GMT -5
41 shots 1 goal, you could say Rask stole a big one.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 24, 2021 9:34:06 GMT -5
41 shots 1 goal, you could say Rask stole a big one. To be clear on my Rask comments from yesterday. 1. Never said he’s never stolen them a game. I was referring to the Stanley Cup finals when i mentioned the “couple chances hes had”. 2. I love Tuuka and think he’s great - said it before worth saying again. 3. Didn’t blame him for not winning in 19 or even 13 but 13 there were a couple weaker goals that did cost them. 4. When i said he’s not worth 7m. I was referring to the Bs next year and going forward. He’s going to be 35/36 on this next contact if he gets one. I’m not paying that much for him with his injuries and the young goaltending they have. I think they are better off re-allocating that money for a young stud center that can be a number 1 going forward, if they can find that guy. A couple may be available. We can talk more about that in the off-season.. hopefully 2 months from now. Great series win. Got to love how they remade the team at the deadline... when does that ever happen to this degree? |
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