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Post by jimed14 on Sept 23, 2021 14:20:46 GMT -5
This may sound crazy, but is it a possibility that Barnes is left off the postseason roster? He's currently the guy getting the lowest leverage spots and isn't finishing them off. Honestly I don’t even care about the results he’s putting right now because you know well enough that relief pitching performances fluctuate a lot giving how small the size of the samples is, an 8 bad innings stretch would make a pitcher look like the worst reliever in MLB for 2 weeks, that’s like 2 back to back bad outings for a starting pitcher which happen on yearly bases to the Scherzers, Coles and Kershaws of the world. What worries me the most about Barnes is the loss of velocity on his fastball, he was throwing 94 last night. That’s a red flag for me. Between throwing 94 and not being able to locate anything, it's not looking good right now. If he doesn't show any flashes of being effective before the end of the season, then what?
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Post by tizzle on Sept 23, 2021 16:27:35 GMT -5
This may sound crazy, but is it a possibility that Barnes is left off the postseason roster? He's currently the guy getting the lowest leverage spots and isn't finishing them off. I don't see how it could be considered crazy. I assume 9 will been the pen. Assuming Whitlock is healthy, 7 are beyond no-brainers (at the moment): Whitlock Houck Richards Robles Taylor Darwinzon Davis Ottavino is shaky as hell, but I have no doubt he'd be on. Which leaves one spot. The way Barnes is going right now, no question I'd rather have Brasier or Sawamura. I could make a case for Perez in case of a blowout to protect arms for another day. The key to this is how perceptions and confidence can change in a couple of days. Barnes could easily pitch himself back into the picture or others could pitch themselves out. But at the moment, I don't see how you put Barnes on the roster. But I'd love it if he changed my mind by next weekend.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 23, 2021 17:55:42 GMT -5
This may sound crazy, but is it a possibility that Barnes is left off the postseason roster? He's currently the guy getting the lowest leverage spots and isn't finishing them off. I don't see how it could be considered crazy. I assume 9 will been the pen. Assuming Whitlock is healthy, 7 are beyond no-brainers (at the moment): Whitlock Houck Richards Robles Taylor Darwinzon Davis Ottavino is shaky as hell, but I have no doubt he'd be on. Which leaves one spot. The way Barnes is going right now, no question I'd rather have Brasier or Sawamura. I could make a case for Perez in case of a blowout to protect arms for another day. The key to this is how perceptions and confidence can change in a couple of days. Barnes could easily pitch himself back into the picture or others could pitch themselves out. But at the moment, I don't see how you put Barnes on the roster. But I'd love it if he changed my mind by next weekend. Braiser has been lights out in a stopper role. I don't think there's any chance of him not making it at this very moment. Throwing strikes when you're sitting 96 with a nasty slider is no joke. A no-brainer over Barnes anyway. I think they brought Brasier in for the highest leverage situations this week and Barnes the lowest.
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Post by cdj on Sept 23, 2021 18:32:32 GMT -5
I would’ve trusted Yacksel more than Barnes at this point….
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 24, 2021 4:50:25 GMT -5
I don't see how it could be considered crazy. I assume 9 will been the pen. Assuming Whitlock is healthy, 7 are beyond no-brainers (at the moment): Whitlock Houck Richards Robles Taylor Darwinzon Davis Ottavino is shaky as hell, but I have no doubt he'd be on. Which leaves one spot. The way Barnes is going right now, no question I'd rather have Brasier or Sawamura. I could make a case for Perez in case of a blowout to protect arms for another day. The key to this is how perceptions and confidence can change in a couple of days. Barnes could easily pitch himself back into the picture or others could pitch themselves out. But at the moment, I don't see how you put Barnes on the roster. But I'd love it if he changed my mind by next weekend. Braiser has been lights out in a stopper role. I don't think there's any chance of him not making it at this very moment. Throwing strikes when you're sitting 96 with a nasty slider is no joke. A no-brainer over Barnes anyway. I think they brought Brasier in for the highest leverage situations this week and Barnes the lowest. Ottavino had a pair of rough outings in early September, pitching for the 3rd and 4th time in 6 days. They then gave him 3 days off and he was absolutely dominant pitching 4 times in 6 days again. They then gave him 6 days rest and he was rusty as hell. If he pitches tonight it will be on 1 days rest and there's every reason to believe he'll be sharp then or in his next outing afterwards.
Brasier was awful in his six appearances before being sent down. .361 xwOBA, .496 wOBA.
In his two outings since returning he has a .000 wOBA, but a .476 xwOBA, facing 4 batters. He was dominant getting out of the jam in the 5th, but the next inning he gave up a 387', .600 xBA barrel to J.D. Davis that failed to go yard only because it was hit to center. Ditto for MCann's Sac Fly DP the next day, only batter he faced, a .610 barrel at 105 mph. He's a very interesting candidate but he's not yet established himself on the keeper list. Not close.
So I've got Barnes, Brasier, Samamura competing for the last spot. They will go to great lengths to get Barnes on track and I would not count him out at all.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 3, 2021 11:53:09 GMT -5
What have you done for me lately ranking ... this is tOBA (82% xw, 18% w)
.199 Robles, since 8/29, 16 G, 10 lights out, 3 bad but good karma, 3 good but bad karma (55 PA)
.207 Brasier last 6
.237 Barnes last 3, first 2 good (11) .253 Houck last 3 relief appearances (27), .205 (60) including the two starts that bookend them
.361 Ottavino last 3, bad but OK results, good but bad karma, bad (12) .382 Richards last 4 (21) .552 Hernandez, last 4 (12) Richards was tremendous until his last 4. Darwinzon's first 3 outings after his return were quite good. Ottavino of course was great for a long stretch, got that extended layoff, was killed his first 2 outings back and has struggled.
And of course Whitlock gives you another guy you expect to be good.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Oct 3, 2021 12:23:27 GMT -5
The review of this season will look at a total collapse of our bullpen. They were great in first half. Barnes, Whitlock, Ottavino, Swamura, JT and Darwinson. None of them are reliable at the moment. Brasier and Robles are probably best two. Hauck will help tremendously in the post-season. Hopefully, Whitlock can go too.
Chaim’s most important area to retool. There’s some real talent there. Need a couple of big arms. Not necessarily closers
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