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Post by wildsox on Apr 25, 2021 14:43:54 GMT -5
Marwin!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 25, 2021 14:43:54 GMT -5
Woo-hoo!
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 25, 2021 14:48:34 GMT -5
Can we get a look at Chavis please
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Post by wildsox on Apr 25, 2021 14:49:19 GMT -5
Can we get a look at Chavis please In the OF?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 25, 2021 14:50:38 GMT -5
.506 OPS for Renfroe before this at bat.
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 25, 2021 14:54:44 GMT -5
Renfranchy Corderfroe. Same futility now in one name.
They are getting very tiresome to watch at the plate.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 25, 2021 14:55:20 GMT -5
Renfroe can get optioned after Cordero is recalled. Or before.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 25, 2021 14:56:15 GMT -5
What do you mean? Don't you see that RBI by that power walk?
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Post by wildsox on Apr 25, 2021 14:59:30 GMT -5
I don’t see why we think Chavis and his .212 BA and .260 OBP .636 OPS would be the answer. If anything it would be more of the same
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Post by Guidas on Apr 25, 2021 15:01:40 GMT -5
Great win!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 25, 2021 15:02:50 GMT -5
Glad the Sox won, but this is why I hate 4 game and 2 game series. Split, split, split. I'm feeling very neutral about this team.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 25, 2021 15:06:35 GMT -5
Glad the Sox won, but this is why I hate 4 game and 2 game series. Split, split, split. I'm feeling very neutral about this team. We almost swept the Twinkies and almost beat the Mariners 3/4 but Ottavino blew a few games. 5/9 against the Mariners, Twinkies and White Sox is pretty good. The only real bad team we’ve played is the O’s.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 25, 2021 15:08:32 GMT -5
They didn't really do alot to earn it, but take the win and rest tomorrow. the hitting is in hibernation. Renfroe is a black hole and I see him getting no better as of now. They played well on the road and hope they can get back on track.
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Post by manfred on Apr 25, 2021 15:20:15 GMT -5
Win is a win, and it’s a game when the Yankees lose. So... good day.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 25, 2021 15:52:28 GMT -5
Since July 1, 2019, in 430 PAs, Renfroe is batting a cool .171/.258/.350.
What are the odds that he makes it through the season in Boston? I'm thinking about 30%?
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Post by blizzards39 on Apr 25, 2021 16:08:59 GMT -5
Since July 1, 2019, in 430 PAs, Renfroe is batting a cool .171/.258/.350. What are the odds that he makes it through the season in Boston? I'm thinking about 30%? Problem right now is franchy is worse. And Renfroe a better fielder and more versatile so it’s ??
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 25, 2021 16:10:41 GMT -5
.506 OPS for Renfroe before this at bat. If it were his slugging percentage, it would be awesome, but unfortunately it is not.....
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Post by soxinsf on Apr 25, 2021 16:12:23 GMT -5
Since July 1, 2019, in 430 PAs, Renfroe is batting a cool .171/.258/.350. What are the odds that he makes it through the season in Boston? I'm thinking about 30%? Problem right now is franchy is worse. And Renfroe a better fielder and more versatile so it’s ?? The obvious answer is Duran. How soon can he come up and still save a year of eligibility?
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Post by incandenza on Apr 25, 2021 16:27:37 GMT -5
Problem right now is franchy is worse. And Renfroe a better fielder and more versatile so it’s ?? The obvious answer is Duran. How soon can he come up and still save a year of eligibility? I had been skeptical of counting on Duran to come up and be productive right away, but the bar to surpass Hunchy Rendero is awfully low at the moment.
ADD: You know, it's not like Renfroe's been a complete disaster against lefties. The BA is ugly, but .188/.278/.438 (before today) is actually good for a 98 wRC+. It's playable, especially with his good defense. He just can't ever be allowed to hit against righties.
Naturally, two-thirds of his PAs this season have come against righties...
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Post by wildsox on Apr 25, 2021 16:30:42 GMT -5
Problem right now is franchy is worse. And Renfroe a better fielder and more versatile so it’s ?? The obvious answer is Duran. How soon can he come up and still save a year of eligibility? Really the only answer at this point. Chavis and Santana both have warts similar to Franchy and Renfroe
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Post by johnsilver52 on Apr 25, 2021 16:39:52 GMT -5
The obvious answer is Duran. How soon can he come up and still save a year of eligibility? Really the only answer at this point. Chavis and Santana both have warts similar to Franchy and Renfroe Neither could do worse at this point and pretty sure Santana has an opt out. He's almost got to get a chance at the expense of 1 of those named.
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Post by soxinsf on Apr 25, 2021 17:03:48 GMT -5
The obvious answer is Duran. How soon can he come up and still save a year of eligibility? Really the only answer at this point. Chavis and Santana both have warts similar to Franchy and Renfroe We certainly don’t know what Duran will do when he comes up but could he really be worse the Franchy? Or hit worse than Renfroe? And he is hopefully the future. They aren’t, and should only be on the team if they start contributing. I would rather see potential than never wozzers.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 25, 2021 17:19:15 GMT -5
Really the only answer at this point. Chavis and Santana both have warts similar to Franchy and Renfroe We certainly don’t know what Duran will do when he comes up but could he really be worse the Franchy? Or hit worse than Renfroe? And he is hopefully the future. They aren’t, and should only be on the team if they start contributing. I would rather see potential than never wozzers. I would anticipate we saw Santana before we see Duran. I'm high on what Duran can bring to the table but some ABs against some AAA pitching would be helpful. I don't think he has any ABs against actual AAA pitching. Santana has had some success in the majors. In 2019 he was effective. Last year he was injured so it was a wasted season, so I won't hold that against Santana. We know Santana has a terrible BB/K ratio, which isn't that different from Renfroe, Cordero, and Hernandez. But unlike Renfroe and Cordero he has had some track record of being decent in the past couple of years. I think he should get the next shot at helping out. They could also give Marwin Gonzalez more regular turns in LF instead of playing all over the place, but my first choice at this point would be Santana. I would like Duran to get a month or so against AAA pitching to see if he can handle it. I think he can, but I think the Sox need to see it rather than just throw him into the fire. Maybe he hits AAA pitching well enough to give the Red Sox a reason to think that he can lead off as I, like many others here, think Hernandez is badly miscast as the leadoff hitter. But until he gets some AAA numbers it's hard to know that. I would say send Cordero down. He's not a major leaguer at this point. He needs to play regularly but also needs to do something different whether it's a different approach or something mechanical, but what he's doing can't work. He can't whiff 30 plus % of the time and expect to succeed and if he can't hit lefties at all and is whiffing too much against righties.... All I know is he can't be the LF. Now with Verdugo possibly injured and perhaps headed to the IL, my guess is he stays in Boston. But at this point I'd give Santana his ABs in LF or do some kind of platoon with him and Gonzalez and if Arroyo is healthy enough, simply give Arroyo the every day 2nd base job unless he plays his way out of it. Eventually though, they can send down Cordero and let him get right. I know the shortened spring training was of no help to him, but at this point he should be sitting and working with the hitting coaches and apply whatever tweaks they make in AAA when their season starts. And eventually when it's time to add Duran, then they can get rid of the 14th pitcher of the staff (send down Taylor).
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 25, 2021 17:23:30 GMT -5
Well, it was a win. Wasn't pretty. The bats did nothing all weekend, but fortunately Seattle gift wrapped them the game in the first inning by refusing to throw anything that resembled a strike, so much so that even aggressive hitters were easily laying off those pitches. E-Rod was solid. As were Ottavino and Barnes.
It's a shame the Sox could only go 5-5 during their longest homestand of the year. There are worse ways to cool off after a 9 game winning streak so I guess you accept treading water. If Verdugo does indeed go on the IL, then they'll have to tread some more water hopefully, because they don't usually play well against the Mets or in Texas.
The hope is they can tread enough water to stay in first place, although I would anticipate at least 2 of TB, NYY, or Toronto get hot, and hopefully the Sox get some of their problems straightened out and get hot again.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 25, 2021 18:29:18 GMT -5
Santana will be activated this week Brewer to 60-day or Taylor waived Edit: see tweet on left border. Maybe in early May
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