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Post by cdj on Apr 28, 2021 20:37:57 GMT -5
Glad the Sox won, but wow that's a tough loss for DeGrom. He’s used to it Barnes is something else so far They’re winning games they don’t win in down years
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Post by manfred on Apr 28, 2021 20:38:37 GMT -5
Courageous last stand by the Mets. Embarrassing.
30 Ks in that game. Partly a product of pitching, but still some brutal hitting from a bunch of guys on both sides. A lot of hopeless at bats.
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Post by nomar on Apr 28, 2021 20:38:43 GMT -5
Huge series. Two wins, one against the best pitcher on the planet, and both with the offense nearly comatose.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 28, 2021 20:40:16 GMT -5
Cora just put Renfroe in the 3 spot which just batted. Barnes batting 9th
Bizarro
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Post by costpet on Apr 28, 2021 20:51:36 GMT -5
31 k’s between both teams or 57%.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 28, 2021 20:57:40 GMT -5
Franchy. Expect him in the starting lineup on Tues in Buffalo
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 28, 2021 21:06:08 GMT -5
And we have 15 prospects ranked higher than Whitlock.
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 28, 2021 21:08:53 GMT -5
This guy
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Post by jkfer98 on Apr 28, 2021 21:09:17 GMT -5
16-9 with the next 11 games against Texas, Detroit, and Baltimore. Nice opportunity to build on our division lead.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 28, 2021 21:22:09 GMT -5
I am not 100% sold on Pivetta (as fully reliable... I’m sold as capable backender)... but man if I were in the Phillies org I’d be drinking heavily. My Phillies friend is right now texting me about how Pivetta is not as good as he looks and is a big baby. Bloom and coaches seem to have allowed the”baby” to mature quite nicely...
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 28, 2021 21:23:08 GMT -5
I’m not sure throwing Franchy to the lions against May is going to help him straighten out. Cordero’s OPS now at .489.....
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 28, 2021 21:25:20 GMT -5
Courageous last stand by the Mets. Embarrassing. 30 Ks in that game. Partly a product of pitching, but still some brutal hitting from a bunch of guys on both sides. A lot of hopeless at bats. However, going into this series the Red Sox were leading the AL in both BA and runs scored.
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Post by jkfer98 on Apr 28, 2021 21:26:31 GMT -5
16-9 with the next 11 games against Texas, Detroit, and Baltimore. Nice opportunity to build on our division lead. going off of this and the conversations in here about Franchy, give him these next 11 games against some of the weaker teams in the AL and re-evaluate after that.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 28, 2021 21:33:48 GMT -5
The Mets have chased breaking pitches the past two days that were not close. Their lineup might heat up, but right now they are woeful. I hope they are blazing hot when they play the Yankees!
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 28, 2021 21:39:51 GMT -5
16-9 with the next 11 games against Texas, Detroit, and Baltimore. Nice opportunity to build on our division lead. going off of this and the conversations in here about Franchy, give him these next 11 games against some of the weaker teams in the AL and re-evaluate after that. ...or let Santana have his try and let Cordero figure things out in AAA.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 28, 2021 21:42:15 GMT -5
And we have 15 prospects ranked higher than Whitlock. Not for long.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 28, 2021 21:58:53 GMT -5
If someone told me the Red Sox would score a total of 3 runs combined in the two games against the Mets I would have guessed they lost both games.
Whether it is the new deader baseball, the weather, or the pitching things are certainly going well for Red Sox pitching!
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Post by Jimmy on Apr 28, 2021 22:06:59 GMT -5
Just me or does JDM seem to have a ton of trouble with the slider away breaking off the plate? Some terrible swings on that the last dozen or so games.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 28, 2021 22:19:24 GMT -5
Well, he's not the only one. Eckersley went on and on about the pitches batters were chasing. I'm wondering if the modified baseball isn't breaking violently, fooling players. Time for a dip in the big data, maybe? What's the difference in aggregated pitch type movement this year compared to past years?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 28, 2021 22:50:18 GMT -5
FWIW, MLB hitters entering tonight: .232/.309/.390
For comparison, MLB hitters in April 2016 (picked only because it's 5 years ago): .249/.319/.405
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 28, 2021 22:56:17 GMT -5
Nice series. Great 2 wins! Let's wake the bats up now ans tear of 8 of the next 10
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 28, 2021 23:13:32 GMT -5
Nice series. Great 2 wins! Let's wake the bats up now ans tear of 8 of the next 10 Amazingly as sleepy as the Red Sox bats look, they were leading the league in both BA and runs this morning when I looked! The new ball is making a lot of pitchers look like Pedro Martinez..... With lowers scoring games I would guess that games are much shorter...at least it is good for the “pace of the game” “problem”....
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 28, 2021 23:16:11 GMT -5
People will look at this stretch of Pivetta and say "BABIP luck," but he had 2.0 expected hits tonight, or a .250 BABIP. de Grom was 4.5 xHits, which is .321.
The Sox had 4 hard-hit balls off of de Grom with xBA of .500+ . Pivetta allowed none.
The Sox had all 5 of the batted balls with EV > 100.0, adding to 2.8 xHits, but made 4 outs thereby -- Devers' rocket in between the two doubles in the 2nd was 109.3, and Marwin's GDP to end the 7th was second hardest-hit at 104.7 (but just a .330 xBA), while Verdugo ended the 4th with Devers on second with 100.2, .540 xBA, but hit right at the shifted Lindor.
Whitlock had an xBABIP of .130 on an average EV of 72.9. But his K/W ratio has plummeted from 14.00 to 8.50.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 28, 2021 23:28:22 GMT -5
That may have been even a more impressive win than the previous night. DeGrom showed why he is so dominating. But Pivetta had his best five and dive tonight. Whitlock was Whitlock. No drama from Ottavino tonight and Barnes was absolutely devastating again. Just enough offense and the road warriors pulled out another tough victory.
As great as Pivetta was tonight I have to wonder if he has it in him to do what Garrett Richards did the night before which is to be somebody who can pitch into the 7th inning. Even when he is unhittable Pivetta's lack of control causes his pitch count to get high very quickly so he doesn't eat up a lot of innings. You have to figure he was an his most unhittable best the past two outings. And in the previous outing he was actually at a pitch count that would have made a no-hitter a possibility until he lost control with two outs in the 6th. Tonight he was nearing 100 pitches when he was done after 5 because of the 3 walks and a HBP. Fortunately they could not hit him.
I know today's pitchers' goals are to throw as hard as possible for as long as possible and if it's 5 innings so be it, but I wonder if Pivetta can harness his control and still be good enough to not give up too many hits and still be able to stay in the game longer. I would think that's the progression they're still trying to get from him. I just wonder if he can do it. I mean what he's doing now is certainly working. A back-end starter who's really tough to hit and can give you five quality innings is a good thing, but if he can take that next step he can become more than a back-end starter.
Fortunately with Whitlock available to pitch tonight it made the 5 innings from Pivetta more than acceptable, plus it also allowed Andriese to be used in a short situation last night, and of course, it was a perfect chance to use Whitlock in a high leverage situation, so that worked out perfectly.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 29, 2021 0:53:44 GMT -5
That may have been even a more impressive win than the previous night. DeGrom showed why he is so dominating. But Pivetta had his best five and dive tonight. Whitlock was Whitlock. No drama from Ottavino tonight and Barnes was absolutely devastating again. Just enough offense and the road warriors pulled out another tough victory. As great as Pivetta was tonight I have to wonder if he has it in him to do what Garrett Richards did the night before which is to be somebody who can pitch into the 7th inning. Even when he is unhittable Pivetta's lack of control causes his pitch count to get high very quickly so he doesn't eat up a lot of innings. You have to figure he was an his most unhittable best the past two outings. And in the previous outing he was actually at a pitch count that would have made a no-hitter a possibility until he lost control with two outs in the 6th. Tonight he was nearing 100 pitches when he was done after 5 because of the 3 walks and a HBP. Fortunately they could not hit him. I know today's pitchers' goals are to throw as hard as possible for as long as possible and if it's 5 innings so be it, but I wonder if Pivetta can harness his control and still be good enough to not give up too many hits and still be able to stay in the game longer. I would think that's the progression they're still trying to get from him. I just wonder if he can do it. I mean what he's doing now is certainly working. A back-end starter who's really tough to hit and can give you five quality innings is a good thing, but if he can take that next step he can become more than a back-end starter. Fortunately with Whitlock available to pitch tonight it made the 5 innings from Pivetta more than acceptable, plus it also allowed Andriese to be used in a short situation last night, and of course, it was a perfect chance to use Whitlock in a high leverage situation, so that worked out perfectly.It was his second appearance in high-lev, but the first that was planned. They warmed him up to follow E-Rod's debut, with the Sox trailing by 1, and they took the lead while he was getting ready. Same thing, 6th and 7th with a 1-run lead.
In him and Andriese they have two guys who can routinely give you two set-up quality innings; having one guy like that is rare.
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