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Franchy Cordero, the enigma
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Post by vokuhila on Aug 30, 2021 13:28:55 GMT -5
Barring injury I think it's safe to say that Franchy's MLB season is over.
His MLB statline for the season is 136PA .189/.237/.260 .497OPS .307BABIP 5.9%BB 37.5%K 33wRC+ .222wOBA .239wxOBA -0.7fWAR
He has done well in learning 1B and he had one of the hottest streaks Worcester has seen to date.
His problem always has been the contact rate. There has been some improvement over the course of the season...but it is nowhere near an acceptable level.
Since being demoted he has a 36.8%K rate in 38PA in AAA.
At this point you have to ask: is this just it for Franchy?
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Post by manfred on Aug 30, 2021 14:22:31 GMT -5
Barring injury I think it's safe to say that Franchy's MLB season is over. His MLB statline for the season is 136PA .189/.237/.260 .497OPS .307BABIP 5.9%BB 37.5%K 33wRC+ .222wOBA .239wxOBA -0.7fWAR He has done well in learning 1B and he had one of the hottest streaks Worcester has seen to date. His problem always has been the contact rate. There has been some improvement over the course of the season...but it is nowhere near an acceptable level. Since being demoted he has a 36.8%K rate in 38PA in AAA. At this point you have to ask: is this just it for Franchy? I have never had to ask that. The guy is what he is.
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Post by jmei on Aug 30, 2021 15:38:47 GMT -5
The shine has certainly worn off, but he has an option left next year and is a legitimate MLB depth option, especially if he solidifies the ability to play 1B. Something like .230/.300/.400 (projection consensus) isn’t great, but it probably keeps you your 40-man spot, especially since he still has a little upside (will still be 27 most of next year).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 30, 2021 16:42:26 GMT -5
I think there's enough there that they'd bring him in for one more spring training at least. But he's not doing a ton to lock down the 40-man spot.
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 21, 2021 13:40:46 GMT -5
Franchy DFA’d
edit: already posted in the 40 man thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 21, 2021 13:59:40 GMT -5
Probably best to talk about the Franchy DFA here rather than in the 40 man thread.
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Post by manfred on Oct 21, 2021 15:25:19 GMT -5
Franchy, we hardly knew ye. But it was enough.
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Post by cdj on Oct 21, 2021 16:12:06 GMT -5
Farewell sweet prince
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Oct 21, 2021 20:19:48 GMT -5
Franchy, we hardly knew ye. But it was enough. Yes, we have seen enough of Franchy, but i never thought of him as the centrepiece! Benintendi may have hit nicely this year, but is he worth $9.3 million next year. If Winckowski does anything in the MLB as a starting pitcher, then the trade will be a total win imo.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 22, 2021 10:07:57 GMT -5
Very curious to see what he gets as a MLFA. I can't imagine he gets more than a minor league deal with an invite.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 22, 2021 12:08:36 GMT -5
Wait so we didn't get the next David Ortiz?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 22, 2021 12:21:14 GMT -5
Wait so we didn't get the next David Ortiz? Nope, we didn't even get the next Wily Mo Pena. At least he was productive for half a season.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Oct 22, 2021 14:09:02 GMT -5
Franchy is AAA roster filler. I would not even say organizational depth.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 22, 2021 15:01:03 GMT -5
Very curious to see what he gets as a MLFA. I can't imagine he gets more than a minor league deal with an invite. His future may lay in Japan, and that could be a good thing. He'll make good money, play regularly and get a chance to improve his plate abilities.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 22, 2021 15:21:07 GMT -5
Very curious to see what he gets as a MLFA. I can't imagine he gets more than a minor league deal with an invite. His future may lay in Japan, and that could be a good thing. He'll make good money, play regularly and get a chance to improve his plate abilities. Or Korea. Great call.
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Post by costpet on Oct 23, 2021 9:02:10 GMT -5
Or North Korea.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Oct 24, 2021 17:02:26 GMT -5
Doesn't DFA mean they're removing him from the 40-man? If he wasn't on the 40-man (wasn't he optioned off it?), then why would be it be DFA? Wouldn't it just be "released"? Talk about an enigma...
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 24, 2021 19:07:08 GMT -5
Doesn't DFA mean they're removing him from the 40-man? If he wasn't on the 40-man (wasn't he optioned off it?), then why would be it be DFA? Wouldn't it just be "released"? Talk about an enigma...
I started to type an explainer here, but MLB's is much more straightforward. www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/40-man-rosterCordero was optioned to the minor leagues from the 26-man roster, remaining on the 40-man roster. He was designated for assignment to remove him from the 40-man roster to make room for Phillips Valdez, who apparently needed to be restored from the COVID IL. Normally, a player who is designated for assignment must be placed on waivers, outrighted, or traded within 10 days. However, I believe the trading deadline restriction still applies until the end of the World Series, and a team would not be allowed to add him to its 40-man roster through a trade. If he clears waivers and is outrighted, he would become a minor league free agent.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Oct 24, 2021 19:54:23 GMT -5
Doesn't DFA mean they're removing him from the 40-man? If he wasn't on the 40-man (wasn't he optioned off it?), then why would be it be DFA? Wouldn't it just be "released"? Talk about an enigma...
I started to type an explainer here, but MLB's is much more straightforward. www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/40-man-rosterCordero was optioned to the minor leagues from the 26-man roster, remaining on the 40-man roster. He was designated for assignment to remove him from the 40-man roster to make room for Phillips Valdez, who apparently needed to be restored from the COVID IL. Normally, a player who is designated for assignment must be placed on waivers, outrighted, or traded within 10 days. However, I believe the trading deadline restriction still applies until the end of the World Series, and a team would not be allowed to add him to its 40-man roster through a trade. If he clears waivers and is outrighted, he would become a minor league free agent. I was definitely confused about whether exercising an option removed someone from the 40-man. For some reason I had Franchy already being off the 40-man. With all the covid churn, it got pretty hairy.
According to MLBTR:
"He’ll now hit outright waivers, where the league’s other 29 teams will have the opportunity to claim him. If he passes through without a claim, the Sox can retain him by sending him outright to Triple-A."
That's what I thought. I don't think we've seen the last of Franchy, unless another team claims him, in which case they'd have to give him a 40-man spot.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 24, 2021 20:46:19 GMT -5
So normally he could be outrighted and stay with the team. But because the season is over and because he is beyond six years in professional baseball. Here is the list of the Red Sox MLFA: www.soxprospects.com/mlfa.htm
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 25, 2021 13:40:00 GMT -5
Yeah I think technically he wouldn't become a free agent until 5 days after the WS but same difference.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 25, 2021 13:42:35 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Oct 25, 2021 13:49:08 GMT -5
How can I miss you if you won’t go away?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 25, 2021 13:49:31 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 25, 2021 13:53:15 GMT -5
So he's guaranteed 825k next year, but he starts next season in Worcester and he's off the 40 man roster until he gets called up?
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