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7/15-7/18 Red Sox @ Yankees Thread
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2021 9:42:13 GMT -5
How to tell the SP forum contingent is engaged - 6th page in a gameday thread with no games yet.
Love it.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2021 9:43:00 GMT -5
ed Sox manager Alex Cora told reporters that Tanner Houck is likely to start Wednesday against the Blue Jays. Houck will be a bullpen option for the series against the Yankees, and then will likely take the hill against Toronto for that series. The right-hander has a 12/1 K/BB ratio in 10 1/3 innings with the Red Sox with a 4.35 ERA, but missed time with a flexor muscle injury when he was sent down to Triple-A Worcester. Houck offers some streaming potential, but the Blue Jays lineup would be a risky time to use him in fantasy formats. SOURCE: Chris Cotillo on Twitter IMO keeping Houck as a starter is good for both him and the rest of the rotation. The Red Sox need to see if he is a viable option for both the playoffs and the rotation for next year. Apparently the plan is up in the air with the postponement. If they have a doubleheader this weekend, you'd obviously want Houck to start one game.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 16, 2021 10:08:35 GMT -5
IMO keeping Houck as a starter is good for both him and the rest of the rotation. The Red Sox need to see if he is a viable option for both the playoffs and the rotation for next year. Apparently the plan is up in the air with the postponement. If they have a doubleheader this weekend, you'd obviously want Houck to start one game. Speaking about up in the air do we even know if they are playing today? There isn't any real reason not to right, I mean it is up to the Yanks to field a team.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 16, 2021 10:09:18 GMT -5
What effect will a positive Covid test have on the availability of the Yankee players diagnosed? Will they automatically be put on IL?...If so, is there minimum time they would be out?
Will the Yankee situation with 6 guys testing positive...threaten playing games this weekend? Who makes that determination?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 16, 2021 10:29:09 GMT -5
What effect will a positive Covid test have on the availability of the Yankee players diagnosed? Will they automatically be put on IL?...If so, is there minimum time they would be out? Will the Yankee situation with 6 guys testing positive...threaten playing games this weekend? Who makes that determination? Here's the link to the MLB protocol for dealing with the virus.
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Post by benzinger on Jul 16, 2021 10:31:06 GMT -5
What effect will a positive Covid test have on the availability of the Yankee players diagnosed? Will they automatically be put on IL?...If so, is there minimum time they would be out? Will the Yankee situation with 6 guys testing positive...threaten playing games this weekend? Who makes that determination? Here's the link to the MLB protocol for dealing with the virus. • Individuals who test positive will be required to isolate for a minimum of 10 days, receive appropriate care and monitoring from the Club medical staff, and be cleared by the Joint Committee and the individual’s team physician, following a mandatory cardiac evaluation and a determination that the individual no longer presents a risk of infection to others.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 16, 2021 10:32:38 GMT -5
Do we think the game gets played today?
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Post by incandenza on Jul 16, 2021 10:43:08 GMT -5
Here's the link to the MLB protocol for dealing with the virus. • Individuals who test positive will be required to isolate for a minimum of 10 days, receive appropriate care and monitoring from the Club medical staff, and be cleared by the Joint Committee and the individual’s team physician, following a mandatory cardiac evaluation and a determination that the individual no longer presents a risk of infection to others. So no Judge, Urshela, or Loaisiga for the next 10 days? Well shoot, that's almost too unfortunate for them - I want them to think they're in the hunt just enough that they don't sell off at the trade deadline.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 16, 2021 10:49:23 GMT -5
There are Sox players being tested as well.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 16, 2021 10:53:01 GMT -5
There are Sox players being tested as well. Makes sense. You'd hate to see someone like ERod catch it again and have a worse outcome than before. I think people forget just how deadly this virus can be. Especially with compromised immune system. As much as I want to see the Sox/Yankees duke it out this weekend this is much more serious.
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Jul 16, 2021 10:56:07 GMT -5
There are Sox players being tested as well. Unfortunately I think the odds are high that 1 or more of the Sox all stars test positive. Assuming this is the delta variant.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 16, 2021 10:58:27 GMT -5
So...
- Vaccinated players can obviously get covid, and can infect others, but the viral load is a lot lower (from everything I've read). - A vaccinated player infecting multiple other vaccinated players seems especially unlikely.
- Whoever the Yankees "patient zero" is, then, is probably an unvaccinated player. - We know most but not all of the 6 infected Yankees were vaccinated. - We know that Cortez, Loaisiga, and Peralta are all vaccinated. - So we can infer that either 1 or 2 of Judge, Higashioka, and Urshela are not vaccinated. - So the patient zero is probably one of those three.
Imagine if it's Judge and he just Johnny Appleseeded covid to all the all stars in the AL...
(Incidentally, apparently JDM had covid last October, so he should have some immunity, even if he's not vaccinated.)
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Post by benzinger on Jul 16, 2021 11:08:02 GMT -5
There are Sox players being tested as well. Unfortunately I think the odds are high that 1 or more of the Sox all stars test positive. Assuming this is the delta variant. Wouldn’t we know by now? It only takes about 45 minutes to get test results.
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Post by manfred on Jul 16, 2021 11:08:57 GMT -5
So...
- Vaccinated players can obviously get covid, and can infect others, but the viral load is a lot lower (from everything I've read). - A vaccinated player infecting multiple other vaccinated players seems especially unlikely.
- Whoever the Yankees "patient zero" is, then, is probably an unvaccinated player. - We know most but not all of the 6 infected Yankees were vaccinated. - We know that Cortez, Loaisiga, and Peralta are all vaccinated. - So we can infer that either 1 or 2 of Judge, Higashioka, and Urshela are not vaccinated. - So the patient zero is probably one of those three.
Imagine if it's Judge and he just Johnny Appleseeded covid to all the all stars in the AL...
(Incidentally, apparently JDM had covid last October, so he should have some immunity, even if he's not vaccinated.)
I don’t see much reason to speculate. Whatever. The main thing is… I hope everyone gets through this undamaged. We saw with ERod that even a “mild” case can do lasting harm. I want to beat the Yankees on the field, which means I want them on the field, healthy, full strength.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 16, 2021 11:10:15 GMT -5
So...
- Vaccinated players can obviously get covid, and can infect others, but the viral load is a lot lower (from everything I've read). - A vaccinated player infecting multiple other vaccinated players seems especially unlikely.
- Whoever the Yankees "patient zero" is, then, is probably an unvaccinated player. - We know most but not all of the 6 infected Yankees were vaccinated. - We know that Cortez, Loaisiga, and Peralta are all vaccinated. - So we can infer that either 1 or 2 of Judge, Higashioka, and Urshela are not vaccinated. - So the patient zero is probably one of those three.
Imagine if it's Judge and he just Johnny Appleseeded covid to all the all stars in the AL...
(Incidentally, apparently JDM had covid last October, so he should have some immunity, even if he's not vaccinated.)
It seems like "vaccinated" is becoming too vague a word, as the J&J vaccine is not nearly as effective as the two-dose mRNA vaccines, based on the follow-up studies. According to what Cashman has said, it sounds like the MFYs mostly got the J&J vaccine, probably because it is one jab and they figured they wouldn't have to wait for a second jab for all their people to be "vaccinated" Makes you wonder how prevalent that plan was around the league...
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 16, 2021 11:16:50 GMT -5
All the Yankees cases are confirmed positive, including the 3 pitchers, Urshela, Higgy and Judge, per Passan
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Post by incandenza on Jul 16, 2021 11:18:38 GMT -5
So...
- Vaccinated players can obviously get covid, and can infect others, but the viral load is a lot lower (from everything I've read). - A vaccinated player infecting multiple other vaccinated players seems especially unlikely.
- Whoever the Yankees "patient zero" is, then, is probably an unvaccinated player. - We know most but not all of the 6 infected Yankees were vaccinated. - We know that Cortez, Loaisiga, and Peralta are all vaccinated. - So we can infer that either 1 or 2 of Judge, Higashioka, and Urshela are not vaccinated. - So the patient zero is probably one of those three.
Imagine if it's Judge and he just Johnny Appleseeded covid to all the all stars in the AL...
(Incidentally, apparently JDM had covid last October, so he should have some immunity, even if he's not vaccinated.)
I don’t see much reason to speculate. Whatever. The main thing is… I hope everyone gets through this undamaged. We saw with ERod that even a “mild” case can do lasting harm. I want to beat the Yankees on the field, which means I want them on the field, healthy, full strength. They should do a study to see if an inflated BABIP is a symptom of long covid...
Is that in poor taste? That might be in poor taste. In any case, yes, I certainly hope everyone is okay. Cashman said the players were all doing fine, and the vaccine should hopefully prevent the kind of bad symptoms that Eduardo had for those who have taken it. And hopefully the unvaccinated players will get lucky.
ADD: And more good news - no new positive tests, and the teams are expecting to play today, per Jeff Passan.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 16, 2021 11:20:59 GMT -5
So...
- Vaccinated players can obviously get covid, and can infect others, but the viral load is a lot lower (from everything I've read). - A vaccinated player infecting multiple other vaccinated players seems especially unlikely.
- Whoever the Yankees "patient zero" is, then, is probably an unvaccinated player. - We know most but not all of the 6 infected Yankees were vaccinated. - We know that Cortez, Loaisiga, and Peralta are all vaccinated. - So we can infer that either 1 or 2 of Judge, Higashioka, and Urshela are not vaccinated. - So the patient zero is probably one of those three.
Imagine if it's Judge and he just Johnny Appleseeded covid to all the all stars in the AL...
(Incidentally, apparently JDM had covid last October, so he should have some immunity, even if he's not vaccinated.)
It seems like "vaccinated" is becoming too vague a word, as the J&J vaccine is not nearly as effective as the two-dose mRNA vaccines, based on the follow-up studies. According to what Cashman has said, it sounds like the MFYs mostly got the J&J vaccine, probably because it is one jab and they figured they wouldn't have to wait for a second jab for all their people to be "vaccinated" Makes you wonder how prevalent that plan was around the league...
This is the type of nightmare scenario that could stop play for a while. Judge was an all star in this case you have to assume the 5 All Stars for the Sox either have it or at least has been exposed. Personal Health is much greater than MLB.
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Jul 16, 2021 11:26:16 GMT -5
Unfortunately I think the odds are high that 1 or more of the Sox all stars test positive. Assuming this is the delta variant. Wouldn’t we know by now? It only takes about 45 minutes to get test results. Right? It's already past noon. The absence of any official statement that the Red Sox players are in the clear and the game tonight is going to be played is foreboding. I really hope I'm wrong. Alas, I'm wish I had more warrior mentality than worrier.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 16, 2021 11:28:14 GMT -5
No, the 5 Red Sox have not been confirmed to have it or been exposed. On the contrary they’ve reported no other pending positives. So the odds are not high they have it, they are low.
They said, “not all the 5 were vaccinated” but JD is the one who is rumoured to have not been vaccinated and he already had covid.
The game is expected to be played. They’re doing a round of tests this afternoon to be cautious and I believe its lab-based which is more accurate.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 16, 2021 11:59:38 GMT -5
Time to bury the Yankees, in the race I mean of course, take 3 out of 4 and they are 10 back. Imagine the players they could sell off if put in that position.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 16, 2021 12:04:04 GMT -5
Wouldn’t we know by now? It only takes about 45 minutes to get test results. Right? It's already past noon. The absence of any official statement that the Red Sox players are in the clear and the game tonight is going to be played is foreboding. I really hope I'm wrong. Alas, I'm wish I had more warrior mentality than worrier. Honestly, whats the harm in postponing the game another day? Saving lives is greater than the game itself.
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Post by benzinger on Jul 16, 2021 12:10:43 GMT -5
Right? It's already past noon. The absence of any official statement that the Red Sox players are in the clear and the game tonight is going to be played is foreboding. I really hope I'm wrong. Alas, I'm wish I had more warrior mentality than worrier. Honestly, whats the harm in postponing the game another day? Saving lives is greater than the game itself. Lol. Because elite athletes playing a game outside are just fine. This isn’t a nursing home outbreak. Send the positive cases home for a week and play some baseball! It’s also nice that Judge and Urshela will miss just about all of the 8 games we have coming....
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 16, 2021 12:11:06 GMT -5
Time to bury the Yankees, in the race I mean of course, take 3 out of 4 and they are 10 back. Imagine the players they could sell off if put in that position. The chatter is already starting in the national media about what the MFYs could get back for Judge. My pet theory is that Cashman is floating these ideas anonymously to check the temperature of the fan base.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 16, 2021 12:12:53 GMT -5
Honestly, whats the harm in postponing the game another day? Saving lives is greater than the game itself. Lol. Because elite athletes playing a game outside are just fine. This isn’t a nursing home outbreak. Time to play some baseball. It’s also nice that Judge and Urshela will miss just about all of the 8 games we have coming.... I just hope John Kruk doesn't catch it!
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