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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 24, 2021 15:23:32 GMT -5
As I stated before and not that it matters that much because the Pats are not a contending team right now but. With A Ravens loss today the best record in the AFC is 5-2, KC will have the same record as NE and the majority of the AFC is within 1 game of .500 or worse. Lots of parity this year. If the Pats can get healthy and continue to improve they could be in the playoffs, BIG IFS!! Imagine if they beat Miami and were 4-3… haunting loss LOL.... OK OK |
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Post by jmei on Oct 24, 2021 16:11:44 GMT -5
This felt like Josh McDaniels’ “f*** you, I still got it” game.
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Post by cdj on Oct 24, 2021 21:30:55 GMT -5
The remaining schedule looks to be brutal. We shall see. If they end up in the playoffs they are bonafide contenders. I don’t see it but I’ll certainly hope for it
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Post by texs31 on Oct 25, 2021 9:43:28 GMT -5
Jonathan Jones out for the season following shoulder surgery today.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 25, 2021 11:52:36 GMT -5
Jonathan Jones out for the season following shoulder surgery today. Sucks Wade has been hurt |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 25, 2021 12:01:37 GMT -5
I'm not the biggest Jonathan Jones fan, for a crazy fast guy he gets killed by speed a lot. Yet damn, our depth is so bad that's a huge loss. Bethel just isn't good, Bryant has major speed limitations and Wade has yet to play and is dealing with a concussion. That's a major issue going forward.
The Patriots are better than the Jets. There's just different levels of bad teams and the Jets are at the lowest level. I mean they made Bolden look good because they just didn't cover him all game. I guess maybe that's the point with Bolden. Teams don't fear him, so they leave him wide open and gets big chunks of the easiest yards any RB in the league will.
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Post by mobaz on Oct 25, 2021 13:11:52 GMT -5
Coming into the season with Mills as the #2 was a mistake, and now it's exacerbating the depth issue.
An easy system fit is JMac, on a short money deal with Miami. He's losing snaps every week for the Dolphins; not sure if he's lost a step too much or what. And I don't know whether this Pats team is far enough along to invest further in.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 25, 2021 13:13:14 GMT -5
Coming into the season with Mills as the #2 was a mistake, and now it's exacerbating the depth issue. An easy system fit is JMac, on a short money deal with Miami. He's losing snaps every week for the Dolphins; not sure if he's lost a step too much or what. And I don't know whether this Pats team is far enough along to invest further in. JMac going on IR and may need surgery per Rap |
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Post by mobaz on Oct 25, 2021 13:20:58 GMT -5
Coming into the season with Mills as the #2 was a mistake, and now it's exacerbating the depth issue. An easy system fit is JMac, on a short money deal with Miami. He's losing snaps every week for the Dolphins; not sure if he's lost a step too much or what. And I don't know whether this Pats team is far enough along to invest further in. JMac going on IR and may need surgery per Rap Yeah great timing by me. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 25, 2021 15:12:09 GMT -5
I'm not the biggest Jonathan Jones fan, for a crazy fast guy he gets killed by speed a lot. Yet damn, our depth is so bad that's a huge loss. Bethel just isn't good, Bryant has major speed limitations and Wade has yet to play and is dealing with a concussion. That's a major issue going forward. The Patriots are better than the Jets. There's just different levels of bad teams and the Jets are at the lowest level. I mean they made Bolden look good because they just didn't cover him all game. I guess maybe that's the point with Bolden. Teams don't fear him, so they leave him wide open and gets big chunks of the easiest yards any RB in the league will. It’s funny, because he’s one of the best slot corners in the league. That’s a difficult position. Guys are always getting beat there, you have no sideline to help you. It’s brutal to play. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 25, 2021 16:05:52 GMT -5
I'm not the biggest Jonathan Jones fan, for a crazy fast guy he gets killed by speed a lot. Yet damn, our depth is so bad that's a huge loss. Bethel just isn't good, Bryant has major speed limitations and Wade has yet to play and is dealing with a concussion. That's a major issue going forward. The Patriots are better than the Jets. There's just different levels of bad teams and the Jets are at the lowest level. I mean they made Bolden look good because they just didn't cover him all game. I guess maybe that's the point with Bolden. Teams don't fear him, so they leave him wide open and gets big chunks of the easiest yards any RB in the league will. It’s funny, because he’s one of the best slot corners in the league. That’s a difficult position. Guys are always getting beat there, you have no sideline to help you. It’s brutal to play. By what standards? His 50.7 PFF grade? I think all defensive backs have a difficult task in pass coverage now a days. He's not a bad player, yet I certainly don't see him as a top slot corner, more like middle of the pack. |
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Post by cdj on Oct 26, 2021 9:44:15 GMT -5
He had been a top slot corner in the past iirc
Either way it’s a big loss as the drop off from him to Bryant/Williams/Wade/Bethel is significant
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 26, 2021 11:19:25 GMT -5
Rumors Andy Isabella could be traded and if I'm the Patriots I'd certainly go offer Harry. He's like your typical Patriots slot WR.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 26, 2021 11:51:37 GMT -5
Did you know…
- if Pats didn’t give away the Miami game, they’d be in a playoff position right now, and…
- if Folk didn’t hit the upright, but instead was 6 inches right, they’d be first in the AFC right now.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 26, 2021 11:57:21 GMT -5
Did you know… - if Pats didn’t give away the Miami game, they’d be in a playoff position right now, and… - if Folk didn’t hit the upright, but instead was 6 inches right, they’d be first in the AFC right now. I think you've mentioned that Dolphins loss more than a few times🤣 |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 26, 2021 12:10:55 GMT -5
Did you know… - if Pats didn’t give away the Miami game, they’d be in a playoff position right now, and… - if Folk didn’t hit the upright, but instead was 6 inches right, they’d be first in the AFC right now. I think you've mentioned that Dolphins loss more than a few times🤣 Only 10 more weeks to go lol |
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Post by philarhody on Oct 27, 2021 0:15:20 GMT -5
Rumors Andy Isabella could be traded and if I'm the Patriots I'd certainly go offer Harry. He's like your typical Patriots slot WR. You’re right. He is white, undersized and from a small school. But his three cone was kind of slow and I wonder if he lacks shiftiness for the slot. I really want to see them go after a perimeter guy who can win 50-50 balls. It would be nice if Mac had one guy who he didn’t have to be perfect with all the time. Things didn’t really open up for Brady until he had Moss, and then he continued performing at an elite level with Gronk. They haven’t had that kind of specimen since. It’s not like they’re stupid. They tried filling that void with Harry. Every all time great quarterback has had dominant receiving threat(s) who make(s) his life easier. New England’s number one priority needs to be finding that for Mac. |
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Post by philarhody on Oct 27, 2021 0:26:30 GMT -5
Also, can we talk about how freaking good Mac Jones is? I know several of us had been calling this from the predraft process (take a bow for those of you who did your homework). But he’s having one of the great rookie qb seasons of all time with a bunch of 3 and 4 receivers and a middling offensive line.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 27, 2021 10:50:31 GMT -5
Rumors Andy Isabella could be traded and if I'm the Patriots I'd certainly go offer Harry. He's like your typical Patriots slot WR. You’re right. He is white, undersized and from a small school. But his three cone was kind of slow and I wonder if he lacks shiftiness for the slot. I really want to see them go after a perimeter guy who can win 50-50 balls. It would be nice if Mac had one guy who he didn’t have to be perfect with all the time. Things didn’t really open up for Brady until he had Moss, and then he continued performing at an elite level with Gronk. They haven’t had that kind of specimen since. It’s not like they’re stupid. They tried filling that void with Harry. Every all time great quarterback has had dominant receiving threat(s) who make(s) his life easier. New England’s number one priority needs to be finding that for Mac. He'd have the best combo of speed and quickness on the team, at least in terms of testing speed. I just loved him during the draft years back and he's a UMass guy that won't cost much. Harry is basically just a run blocking WR at this point. I don't disagree, I just don't think you trade for one right now for many reasons. Best bet is to target one in the draft. Yet I wouldn't just focus on 50-50 balls either right? I'd love a Chase Claypool type guy, yet I'm not turning down a Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne or Brown type WR either. I'm a Notre Dame guy and Kevin Austin is that type of guy, yet he has speed unlike Harry. Like always Notre Dame has good not great QB play so he doesn't look like a beast he would at other places. Also our RB Williams is the receiving RB you want. Time to surround Mac Jones with plenty of talent! |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 27, 2021 11:16:48 GMT -5
Also, can we talk about how freaking good Mac Jones is? I know several of us had been calling this from the predraft process (take a bow for those of you who did your homework). But he’s having one of the great rookie qb seasons of all time with a bunch of 3 and 4 receivers and a middling offensive line. Yes we can, at times this season it has looked like he was running for his life and he has still been able to put up good numbers and outpace all other rookie Qb's. I was high on him and the more I read in the off season the more I liked him. He is doing what I thought he would do although even better than I thought this early. He does what Brady was always so great at while establishing himself as a great QB. He reads the D and knows where he should go with the ball, just takes what the D gives him without getting greedy. The combination of that and his accuracy will be his calling card just as it has been Toms, of course Tom has taken it further than that. From what I have read and seen reported, San Fran originally traded up to take Mac then changed their minds and took Trey Lance. It was quite risky but not moving up and getting Mac where he did was both very lucky and a stroke of genius by BB. Imagine the picks SF gave up and the long term effect it will have, 2 1st rd picks gone. We got lucky and I hope in 10 years we can all look back on this QB draft and laugh about getting the 5th one, but the best one. Lucky so far!! |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 27, 2021 11:17:42 GMT -5
Also, can we talk about how freaking good Mac Jones is? I know several of us had been calling this from the predraft process (take a bow for those of you who did your homework). But he’s having one of the great rookie qb seasons of all time with a bunch of 3 and 4 receivers and a middling offensive line. His tape was great, yet he didn't look like this. He's been hit more in one game than his whole college career. The fact he can play this way is so crazy impressive because we've only seen a little of what he did in College like that 75 yard bomb to Bourne. He looks like Ian Book did at Notre Dame, yet you know he can go deep unlike Book. They are just starting to open up the playbook, like things are just going to keep improving. I don't know if I agree with describing the talent around him that way. Yeah he lacks an elite #1 type guy, yet the talent as a whole is rather good. He has more offensive talent than Brady did for years. That depth is really helping him as he doesn't have to force anything to one or two guys. Just spread it around to the open players. Add one elite guy like Chase Claypool and you'd be in the conversation of one of the most talented offenses not named Tampa Bay. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 27, 2021 11:19:35 GMT -5
Also, can we talk about how freaking good Mac Jones is? I know several of us had been calling this from the predraft process (take a bow for those of you who did your homework). But he’s having one of the great rookie qb seasons of all time with a bunch of 3 and 4 receivers and a middling offensive line. His tape was great, yet he didn't look like this. He's been hit more in one game than his whole college career. The fact he can play this way is so crazy impressive because we've only seen a little of what he did in College like that 75 yard bomb to Bourne. He looks like Ian Book did at Notre Dame, yet you know he can go deep unlike Book. They are just starting to open up the playbook, like things are just going to keep improving. I don't know if I agree with describing the talent around him that way. Yeah he lacks an elite #1 type guy, yet the talent as a whole is rather good. He has more offensive talent than Brady did for years. That depth is really helping him as he doesn't have to force anything to one or two guys. Just spread it around to the open players. Add one elite guy like Chase Claypool and you'd be in the conversation of one of the most talented offenses not named Tampa Bay. You’ve mentioned Claypool more than I’ve mentioned that Miami loss… by the way - haunting loss 😅😂 |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 27, 2021 13:23:27 GMT -5
His tape was great, yet he didn't look like this. He's been hit more in one game than his whole college career. The fact he can play this way is so crazy impressive because we've only seen a little of what he did in College like that 75 yard bomb to Bourne. He looks like Ian Book did at Notre Dame, yet you know he can go deep unlike Book. They are just starting to open up the playbook, like things are just going to keep improving. I don't know if I agree with describing the talent around him that way. Yeah he lacks an elite #1 type guy, yet the talent as a whole is rather good. He has more offensive talent than Brady did for years. That depth is really helping him as he doesn't have to force anything to one or two guys. Just spread it around to the open players. Add one elite guy like Chase Claypool and you'd be in the conversation of one of the most talented offenses not named Tampa Bay. You’ve mentioned Claypool more than I’ve mentioned that Miami loss… by the way - haunting loss 😅😂 I'm not complaining about not picking him though, he's just the perfect example of what a big play WR for our system looks like. He can do many different things, he's not a one trick pony type WR. Heck he's even a monster blocking on running plays. He can be a big time 50-50 ball guy, while also running almost every route in our system. He could play slot WR for us, he did a bunch of that at Notre Dame. I'm sorry if you don't agree, he's just the best most recent example of guys I target in the draft. The fact he was a second round pick plays into this also. |
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Post by texs31 on Oct 27, 2021 15:07:00 GMT -5
Per various reports,
Patriots signed LB Calvin Munson to their 53 and DBs Davante Bausby and Brian Poole to the PS.
However, headed into today, they had 2 spots on 53 and only 1 on PS.
So either another PS player is getting cut (which would still leave 1 open 53 spot) or someone is getting "promoted" (Ferentz maybe. Believe hes out of gameday elevations)
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 27, 2021 23:39:55 GMT -5
I know Brian Pooles numbers have been up and down. Yet he was rather good last year. He's the type of veteran I can see Bill helping.
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