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Post by philarhody on Oct 28, 2021 1:26:02 GMT -5
Also, can we talk about how freaking good Mac Jones is? I know several of us had been calling this from the predraft process (take a bow for those of you who did your homework). But he’s having one of the great rookie qb seasons of all time with a bunch of 3 and 4 receivers and a middling offensive line. His tape was great, yet he didn't look like this. He's been hit more in one game than his whole college career. The fact he can play this way is so crazy impressive because we've only seen a little of what he did in College like that 75 yard bomb to Bourne. He looks like Ian Book did at Notre Dame, yet you know he can go deep unlike Book. They are just starting to open up the playbook, like things are just going to keep improving. I don't know if I agree with describing the talent around him that way. Yeah he lacks an elite #1 type guy, yet the talent as a whole is rather good. He has more offensive talent than Brady did for years. That depth is really helping him as he doesn't have to force anything to one or two guys. Just spread it around to the open players. Add one elite guy like Chase Claypool and you'd be in the conversation of one of the most talented offenses not named Tampa Bay. I don’t know what to say about Mac having rather good talent around him this season. Other than no. At least not now. His weapons aren’t really doing much after the catch unless somethings blocked for them, and forget about 50-50 balls. Brady had one season that I can recall in which his offense was this bad, 2006. His backs were Dillon and Faulk, his tight ends were Watson and Graham, his wideouts were Troy Brown, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney. His line was better (just trust me). I think Brady’s weapons were better that year. Feel free to respond, I won’t any further :-) |
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Post by mobaz on Oct 28, 2021 8:16:25 GMT -5
His tape was great, yet he didn't look like this. He's been hit more in one game than his whole college career. The fact he can play this way is so crazy impressive because we've only seen a little of what he did in College like that 75 yard bomb to Bourne. He looks like Ian Book did at Notre Dame, yet you know he can go deep unlike Book. They are just starting to open up the playbook, like things are just going to keep improving. I don't know if I agree with describing the talent around him that way. Yeah he lacks an elite #1 type guy, yet the talent as a whole is rather good. He has more offensive talent than Brady did for years. That depth is really helping him as he doesn't have to force anything to one or two guys. Just spread it around to the open players. Add one elite guy like Chase Claypool and you'd be in the conversation of one of the most talented offenses not named Tampa Bay. I don’t know what to say about Mac having rather good talent around him this season. Other than no. At least not now. His weapons aren’t really doing much after the catch unless somethings blocked for them, and forget about 50-50 balls. Brady had one season that I can recall in which his offense was this bad, 2006. His backs were Dillon and Faulk, his tight ends were Watson and Graham, his wideouts were Troy Brown, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney. His line was better (just trust me). I think Brady’s weapons were better that year. Feel free to respond, I won’t any further :-) I mean, you only need to go back to 2019 to find a season where Brady had much worse weapons than this. Edelman > Myers and White > not White, but after that the #3/4/5/6 options and the running back are far far superior to 2019 (which was so bad as to drive Brady away). I'd rather have a clear #1 WR but a wide set of #2/3 options fits decently well with Mac's skills too. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 28, 2021 12:00:17 GMT -5
His tape was great, yet he didn't look like this. He's been hit more in one game than his whole college career. The fact he can play this way is so crazy impressive because we've only seen a little of what he did in College like that 75 yard bomb to Bourne. He looks like Ian Book did at Notre Dame, yet you know he can go deep unlike Book. They are just starting to open up the playbook, like things are just going to keep improving. I don't know if I agree with describing the talent around him that way. Yeah he lacks an elite #1 type guy, yet the talent as a whole is rather good. He has more offensive talent than Brady did for years. That depth is really helping him as he doesn't have to force anything to one or two guys. Just spread it around to the open players. Add one elite guy like Chase Claypool and you'd be in the conversation of one of the most talented offenses not named Tampa Bay. I don’t know what to say about Mac having rather good talent around him this season. Other than no. At least not now. His weapons aren’t really doing much after the catch unless somethings blocked for them, and forget about 50-50 balls. Brady had one season that I can recall in which his offense was this bad, 2006. His backs were Dillon and Faulk, his tight ends were Watson and Graham, his wideouts were Troy Brown, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney. His line was better (just trust me). I think Brady’s weapons were better that year. Feel free to respond, I won’t any further :-) 2001 you had Smith at RB, Brown and Patten at WR and Wiggins at TE. Brady had bad weapons till 2007, go look it up. Those were the days Bill would run it three straight times and punt multiple times a game. We won on the back of the D and Brady making magical plays when we needed them. It's why he averaged 24.5 TDs per season before 2007, then 50 when he got elite weapons. |
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Post by mobaz on Oct 28, 2021 13:39:12 GMT -5
I'm getting a little tired of JC Jackson talking like he's prime Revis Island. Glad he's confident, but he's not THAT good himself and our team isn't there yet either.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 28, 2021 14:53:26 GMT -5
JC Jackson is allowing QBs to have a rating of 64.7 as the top CB. Gilmore in 2018 was 73.9 and in 2020 it was 75.7. He's doing darn well, especially considering he's already faced the Bucs and Cowboys with their darn good passing attacks. The issue isn't him. He's doing that without a CB like him on the other side and a defensive that isn't getting the same level of pressure that 2019 team did.
It's time for Collins, Uche and Perkins to step up. Winovich turned into a pumpkin and is now injured. Barmore has been making plays inside, yet we need another guy to step up opposite Judon. That DL making more plays is crazy important for our secondary. QBs have been getting way too much time.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 29, 2021 12:52:49 GMT -5
 Some comic relief… if you are on Twitter and need some comic relief from a politically neutral troll. Ned is the guy to follow. |
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Post by jmei on Oct 31, 2021 15:12:16 GMT -5
On one hand, that should have been called forward progress. On the other hand, you can’t give up on that play until you hear a whistle.
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Post by jmei on Oct 31, 2021 16:01:26 GMT -5
Three shots from the one yard line and they didn’t run it once. What the ****, McDaniels?
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 31, 2021 16:03:11 GMT -5
McDaniels is soooo bad. Just a complete bozo.
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Post by philarhody on Oct 31, 2021 16:03:50 GMT -5
Why are they throwing 50/50 fades to Jakoby Myers on 4th and goal? This team can’t stop the run!
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Post by jmei on Oct 31, 2021 16:14:37 GMT -5
Once again, getting five yards a pop on the ground, let’s start throwing the ball instead!
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Post by philarhody on Oct 31, 2021 16:26:42 GMT -5
Once again, getting five yards a pop on the ground, let’s start throwing the ball instead! I’ve never understood the Mcdaniels hate. But this is puzzling. |
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Post by philarhody on Oct 31, 2021 16:28:35 GMT -5
Btw this color guy is obnoxious and totally not feeling the Patriots.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 31, 2021 16:47:05 GMT -5
Why are they throwing 50/50 fades to Jakoby Myers on 4th and goal? This team can’t stop the run! That play infuriated me. Might as well take the FG rather than that. Unless you have Brady throwing to peak Gronkowski and then it is still low odds. Tough play to make. One yard line and you throw it 3 times. I hope and think the running game will come around in the 2nd half and the Pats will win. Stevenson will make a difference. hopefully a good one. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 31, 2021 16:52:48 GMT -5
Run run run throw over the top of the LBs. Repeat.
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Post by philarhody on Oct 31, 2021 16:53:00 GMT -5
They start running to start the 2nd half and the routes open up. Funny how that works
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 31, 2021 16:57:37 GMT -5
This team can’t get out of its own way. They do all the little things to lose.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 31, 2021 17:01:46 GMT -5
Bengals looking good at 5-2 after beating the 5-1 Ravens lose to the Jets. Parity!
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Post by marrcus on Oct 31, 2021 17:10:35 GMT -5
Given away 10 pts. Still in this but it has to stop now.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 31, 2021 17:12:18 GMT -5
Fire the O-Line coach into the sun
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 31, 2021 17:13:22 GMT -5
It’d be nice if Wynn could make it through one game without a massive error.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 31, 2021 17:18:03 GMT -5
Both holding calls were the reason for the big runs, not like a guy on the other side that had no impact on the play. Still sucks, yet without them you don't get the big runs.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 31, 2021 17:20:52 GMT -5
Statistically this defense is good, but it feels like they never step up in big moments.
The Pats finally get the lead, and the defense lets the Chargers waltz right up the field.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 31, 2021 17:24:28 GMT -5
There were 2 interference calls missed against the Chargers on that last drive.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 31, 2021 17:29:50 GMT -5
Statistically this defense is good, but it feels like they never step up in big moments. The Pats finally get the lead, and the defense lets the Chargers waltz right up the field. They stepped up at the end of the 1st half twice and earlier made them punt from the endzone after 3 and out at the 5. They have been stepping up a bit. It's all about pressure, I hope they have some wrinkles to throw at them late. I think the Chargers have been getting lucky so far. |
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