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Red Sox vs. Astros 2021 ALCS Gameday Thread
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Post by benzinger on Oct 14, 2021 8:36:38 GMT -5
While we're waiting, some inspiration: Random note: 4 different pitchers each got 1 ER for Papi's slam (Jose Veras, Smyly, Al Albuqueruqe, and Benoit.) I wonder how many times that's happened?? Won't happen again soon with the 3 pitcher rule. Historical moment with the historically bad call from Dave O’Brien to match.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 14, 2021 8:39:03 GMT -5
I wonder if this will be the first playoff round where the broadcasters and national media aren't palpably rooting for the Red Sox' opponent? They come in as the undersogs and are putting together kind of a nice phoenix rising narrative, while the Astros still have a whiff of that trash can stink about them... There will always be a lot of national media guys pretty openly rooting against Boston, a lot of them come from California and New York.
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Post by benzinger on Oct 14, 2021 8:47:59 GMT -5
I’m not saying I don’t follow the NL as closely as I used to, but I hadn’t heard of the guy starting for SF tonight until a few days ago.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 14, 2021 9:03:28 GMT -5
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Post by aznpopsical on Oct 14, 2021 9:17:43 GMT -5
There’s an interesting article on the athletic saying Eovaldi may have helped gotten Sale back on track by spotting a couple of mechanical issues with his delivery, I guess we’ll see
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 14, 2021 9:19:45 GMT -5
While we're waiting, some inspiration: Random note: 4 different pitchers each got 1 ER for Papi's slam (Jose Veras, Smyly, Al Albuqueruqe, and Benoit.) I wonder how many times that's happened?? Won't happen again soon with the 3 pitcher rule. Historical moment with the historically bad call from Dave O’Brien to match. You'll find a way to sprinkle in something negative about literally anything won't you? Good lord, man. Just let people enjoy stuff.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 14, 2021 9:25:50 GMT -5
Historical moment with the historically bad call from Dave O’Brien to match. You'll find a way to sprinkle in something negative about literally anything won't you? Good lord, man. Just let people enjoy stuff. To benzinger's credit, this time he is totally right. OB literally never stops talking the whole time Ortiz is running the bases. A good announcer would allow some silence so the TV folks can hear the screaming fans. It is a better audio experience that way.
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Post by Coreno on Oct 14, 2021 9:34:38 GMT -5
You'll find a way to sprinkle in something negative about literally anything won't you? Good lord, man. Just let people enjoy stuff. To benzinger's credit, this time he is totally right. OB literally never stops talking the whole time Ortiz is running the bases. A good announcer would allow some silence so the TV folks can hear the screaming fans. It is a better audio experience that way. That was the radio call overlayed over the video. He was much better on radio.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 14, 2021 10:05:52 GMT -5
There’s an interesting article on the athletic saying Eovaldi may have helped gotten Sale back on track by spotting a couple of mechanical issues with his delivery, I guess we’ll see I mean does this team not have coaches, or what is the deal exactly?
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Post by benzinger on Oct 14, 2021 10:07:47 GMT -5
Historical moment with the historically bad call from Dave O’Brien to match. You'll find a way to sprinkle in something negative about literally anything won't you? Good lord, man. Just let people enjoy stuff. Oh jeez. Cry me a river. I didn’t think there were any DOB fans out there. I guess I found one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 14, 2021 10:21:54 GMT -5
You'll find a way to sprinkle in something negative about literally anything won't you? Good lord, man. Just let people enjoy stuff. Oh jeez. Cry me a river. I didn’t think there were any DOB fans out there. I guess I found one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not. I just can't imagine watching that video and having my reaction be "I need to go post about how bad Dave O'Brien's radio call sounds layered over the video" rather than just, y'know, enjoying the memory.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 14, 2021 10:27:15 GMT -5
I wonder if this will be the first playoff round where the broadcasters and national media aren't palpably rooting for the Red Sox' opponent? They come in as the undersogs and are putting together kind of a nice phoenix rising narrative, while the Astros still have a whiff of that trash can stink about them... There will always be a lot of national media guys pretty openly rooting against Boston, a lot of them come from California and New York. It is wild to me that people listened to John Smoltz in that series and thought he was rooting against Boston. He very clearly prefers the Red Sox approach of higher batting average, fewer strikeouts, better lineup balance, and more defined roles for starting pitcher, and I don't think it would've been possible for him to make that more obvious without openly rooting for the team. He was far more complementary of Cora than Cash throughout the week. Arozarena love affair aside (which is pretty legitimate!) he very, very clearly favored the Red Sox brand of baseball. Fans get their point of view skewed during the season from watching broadcasts that are from that teams' perspective and it makes them think that all national broadcasters are rooting against them, but I think this was the most obviously pro-Sox I'd ever heard a national announcer over the course of a series. There's a lot to criticize with Smoltz's work, but an anti-Sox bias seems pretty far off the mark.
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Post by manfred on Oct 14, 2021 10:41:05 GMT -5
There will always be a lot of national media guys pretty openly rooting against Boston, a lot of them come from California and New York. It is wild to me that people listened to John Smoltz in that series and thought he was rooting against Boston. He very clearly prefers the Red Sox approach of higher batting average, fewer strikeouts, better lineup balance, and more defined roles for starting pitcher, and I don't think it would've been possible for him to make that more obvious without openly rooting for the team. He was far more complementary of Cora than Cash throughout the week. Arozarena love affair aside (which is pretty legitimate!) he very, very clearly favored the Red Sox brand of baseball. Fans get their point of view skewed during the season from watching broadcasts that are from that teams' perspective and it makes them think that all national broadcasters are rooting against them, but I think this was the most obviously pro-Sox I'd ever heard a national announcer over the course of a series. There's a lot to criticize with Smoltz's work, but an anti-Sox bias seems pretty far off the mark. I generally try not to make claims about bias because… I’m so biased! If the announcers aren’t openly drooling over the Red Sox, it could easily seem hostile in my delirium. Close calls? Better be on my side! Now… I’ll complain about *bad* announcing. Don’t bore me! But bias? I check myself, first.
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Post by cdj on Oct 14, 2021 10:50:50 GMT -5
There will always be a lot of national media guys pretty openly rooting against Boston, a lot of them come from California and New York. It is wild to me that people listened to John Smoltz in that series and thought he was rooting against Boston. He very clearly prefers the Red Sox approach of higher batting average, fewer strikeouts, better lineup balance, and more defined roles for starting pitcher, and I don't think it would've been possible for him to make that more obvious without openly rooting for the team. He was far more complementary of Cora than Cash throughout the week. Arozarena love affair aside (which is pretty legitimate!) he very, very clearly favored the Red Sox brand of baseball. Fans get their point of view skewed during the season from watching broadcasts that are from that teams' perspective and it makes them think that all national broadcasters are rooting against them, but I think this was the most obviously pro-Sox I'd ever heard a national announcer over the course of a series. There's a lot to criticize with Smoltz's work, but an anti-Sox bias seems pretty far off the mark. I don’t think he was against the Sox I just think he’s a moron Exhibit A: “right……..there” Exhibit B: he ironed a shirt that was on his torso (he says no but that’s what somebody who ironed a shirt on his torso would say and that didn’t come out of nowhere!)
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 14, 2021 10:51:50 GMT -5
Smoltz is frustrating because he's so unnecessarily curmudgeonly about the modern game but he's also one of the few announcers to offer actual insight and merited criticism.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 14, 2021 12:02:54 GMT -5
I actually like Dave O’Brien better than Orsillo or Eckersley. Orsillo talked too much about his personal life and Eckersley is just too negative and cheesy sometimes.
Joe Castig is my favorite though.
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Post by cdj on Oct 14, 2021 12:27:41 GMT -5
Mikey Monaco is the GOAT
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Post by cdj on Oct 14, 2021 12:36:55 GMT -5
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 14, 2021 13:05:48 GMT -5
To benzinger's credit, this time he is totally right. OB literally never stops talking the whole time Ortiz is running the bases. A good announcer would allow some silence so the TV folks can hear the screaming fans. It is a better audio experience that way. That was the radio call overlayed over the video. He was much better on radio. didn't know that, Thanks. However, LOL, even if it is the radio call, isn't it better to have the listener hear the pandemonium in the stadium, even for 2 seconds. The call overlay shows he didn't stop talkin for the whole time Ortiz rounded the bases. Besides, how many times to you need to repeat the name David Ortiz. I think people know who he is. Ha. I am benzinger on this, it was a bad call that has to suffer ill repute.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 14, 2021 13:11:23 GMT -5
John Smoltz knows all about pitchers and pitching. When he is broadcasting, i am in school.
I think there is a bias against him because he was really good at what he did and he probably hasn't put much homework into learning advanced stats.
Will likely upset some people, but when I am watching a HOF'er pitcher announce, i would rather learn more about the nuances / mindset of pitching then I would some advanced stat. He freely criticizes things he did wrong when playing.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 14, 2021 13:14:16 GMT -5
That was the radio call overlayed over the video. He was much better on radio. didn't know that, Thanks. However, LOL, even if it is the radio call, isn't it better to have the listener hear the pandemonium in the stadium, even for 2 seconds. The call overlay shows he didn't stop talkin for the whole time Ortiz rounded the bases. Besides, how many times to you need to repeat the name David Ortiz. I think people know who he is. Ha. I am benzinger on this, it was a bad call that has to suffer ill repute. I like it as a radio call. It's nonsense to say 'David Ortiz' that many times, but it's a euphoric moment - he ought to be spouting a bit of nonsense! And then immediately after that he gives a nice fluid description of the play, something he's always been good at (though it's a skill better suited to radio than TV), which is why I've never strongly disliked him as a play-by-play guy.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 14, 2021 13:15:08 GMT -5
John Smoltz knows all about pitchers and pitching. When he is broadcasting, i am in school. I think there is a bias from saber guys because he was really good at what he did. And he isn't going to win any favors with some of his political takes. May I be blessed to never learn about any of his political takes...
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 14, 2021 13:17:37 GMT -5
John Smoltz knows all about pitchers and pitching. When he is broadcasting, i am in school. I think there is a bias from saber guys because he was really good at what he did. And he isn't going to win any favors with some of his political takes. May I be blessed to never learn about any of his political takes... Yeah..he has said some stuff i wouldn't sign off on, IIRC.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 14, 2021 13:22:11 GMT -5
I guess I’m in the minority but people with political takes I disagree with annoys me far less than when they gush and overhype players on the Yankees.
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Post by kjkramer on Oct 14, 2021 13:27:04 GMT -5
Lol the podcast was up by the time you posted this. I am embarrassingly saw that and listened to the podcast. I can be an idiot sometimes. Lol
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