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Post by jimed14 on Jun 6, 2022 15:48:49 GMT -5
I've never understood why they have voluntary workouts if you aren't allowed to choose whether to show up at them or not. You can choose to not show up if you’re good enough or have leverage Wynn doesn’t fall into either of those categories. Unless this is his way of saying he wants out- in which case this is probably effective! Then don't call it voluntary because it's clearly not.
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Post by cdj on Jun 6, 2022 16:08:29 GMT -5
You can choose to not show up if you’re good enough or have leverage Wynn doesn’t fall into either of those categories. Unless this is his way of saying he wants out- in which case this is probably effective! Then don't call it voluntary because it's clearly not. It’s technically voluntary, it’s not like he’s getting fined for this or anything. It just reflects poorly on him given his situation
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Post by texs31 on Jun 6, 2022 20:54:37 GMT -5
That we never consider the possibility that there is a very good reason he was absent and the Pats were 100% behind it is fascinating to me.
We have 0 idea and yet, somehow, are 100% sure it's just the player being am idiot.
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Post by cdj on Jun 6, 2022 22:20:39 GMT -5
That we never consider the possibility that there is a very good reason he was absent and the Pats were 100% behind it is fascinating to me. We have 0 idea and yet, somehow, are 100% sure it's just the player being am idiot. That’s fair, either way it puts him at a disadvantage as Brown is now getting reps at LT and building chemistry with their 1st round pick
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Post by texs31 on Jun 7, 2022 6:04:08 GMT -5
And don't get me wrong, I used WE for a reason. It was my first reaction as well. Then I remembered all the things I DON'T know.
I also wonder if we went there bc of how we've felt about the player/pick all along.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 7, 2022 12:49:49 GMT -5
So Brown played LT with Wynn at RT during this first mandatory session, per Phil Perry (and others).
EDIT - And per Mark Daniels, even when Brown was missing at the start of practice, Cajuste was at LT with Wynn at RT.
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Post by cdj on Jun 7, 2022 17:37:24 GMT -5
So Brown played LT with Wynn at RT during this first mandatory session, per Phil Perry (and others). EDIT - And per Mark Daniels, even when Brown was missing at the start of practice, Cajuste was at LT with Wynn at RT. That’s fascinating
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Post by texs31 on Jun 7, 2022 20:55:02 GMT -5
So I did subsequently read that they did this in Brown's previous stint so MAYBE it's nothing. They could also be trying to figure out who fits best where when there is an injury. So, for example, if Herron (who, per reports, fits best at RT) is your #3 and Brown is out, it makes sense to go Wynn/Herron (LT/RT). But, if Cajuste is #3 and he fits best at LT, you might go Cajuste/Wynn (assuming Wynn adjusts to RT).
OR, this IS something. As you say, could be fascinating.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 8, 2022 16:37:15 GMT -5
I wanted to see if this was just Bill trying things out, getting guys experience at all positions. Yet Wynn says he was talked to about it prior to showing up. Not something you do if this is only for experience and depth. At minimum they are legit thinking about it or have already done it.
Tre Nixon put two straight good practices together, highlight catches both practices.
Seen Jack Jones as most impressive rookie so far.
It's interesting so far.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 8, 2022 21:06:36 GMT -5
Wynne answers were a bit weird on it. When asked if he was told ahead of time, he said "you might say that". He was then asked if he thought it was bc he missed the voluntary days and he said "you'll have to ask Coach".
Maybe looking for something where there isn't (in his comments, I mean) but just came off odd.
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Post by mobaz on Jun 9, 2022 7:51:18 GMT -5
Wynne answers were a bit weird on it. When asked if he was told ahead of time, he said "you might say that". He was then asked if he thought it was bc he missed the voluntary days and he said "you'll have to ask Coach". Maybe looking for something where there isn't (in his comments, I mean) but just came off odd. I'm a positive dude, I'll keep it at face value (BB saying they always work on depth or flexibility or something like that). But under the hood, I won't be surprised with anything with Wynn from LT to RT to bench to trade. Calling it all a puff of smoke and nothing more till like the 3rd week of real camp.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 9, 2022 10:57:00 GMT -5
So I did subsequently read that they did this in Brown's previous stint so MAYBE it's nothing. They could also be trying to figure out who fits best where when there is an injury. So, for example, if Herron (who, per reports, fits best at RT) is your #3 and Brown is out, it makes sense to go Wynn/Herron (LT/RT). But, if Cajuste is #3 and he fits best at LT, you might go Cajuste/Wynn (assuming Wynn adjusts to RT). OR, this IS something. As you say, could be fascinating. I forgot to ask, who reports Herron fits better at RT?
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Post by mobaz on Jun 9, 2022 13:15:52 GMT -5
Talk after practice about Jacobi Meyer seeking a longer term extension. I feel like the floor would need to be Chark/Gage/MVS 3x$10. Could he end up in the Samuel/Davis 4x$12.5 range? I wouldn't want to pay him either, but those are going rates. Should be some discount if they do it before he signs RFA.
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Post by mobaz on Jun 10, 2022 6:37:26 GMT -5
Talk after practice about Jacobi Meyer seeking a longer term extension. I feel like the floor would need to be Chark/Gage/MVS 3x$10. Could he end up in the Samuel/Davis 4x$12.5 range? I wouldn't want to pay him either, but those are going rates. Should be some discount if they do it before he signs RFA. Now Renfrow gets 2x$16m extension. Better and more successful receiver but Meyers won't come cheap!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 10, 2022 10:36:22 GMT -5
So many teams are going to have buyers remorse and there has to be a market correction. Meyers is a 3rd or 4th WR on a contending team. It's just crazy a top QB and WR current market value is almost 80 million, the NFL cap isn't even 220 million. Teams got extra money after the low Covid cap season and just went crazy. Yet that can't be the long-term market.
I did find it interesting that reports has Tre Nixon at the slot position, yet running crazy deep routes. Not something we've seen much of over the years.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 10, 2022 20:38:59 GMT -5
I would not pay that much for Myers. Let him go.
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Post by cdj on Jun 11, 2022 11:38:22 GMT -5
Yeah we can’t pay significant money to Meyers, as much as I like him and his story
If Nixon is looking as good as he sounds I wonder if they move him (Jakobi). I think Bourne and Parker were probably gonna get more volume anyway
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 12, 2022 14:16:13 GMT -5
I love depth, yet if Nixon takes off, that makes Thornton WR#6? I don't like that, he needs more time than that.
If you won't resign Meyers or Agholor, is it better to keep them to help Mac for a year or have him build up chemistry with guys that will be here for years?
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Post by mobaz on Jun 12, 2022 16:58:05 GMT -5
I love depth, yet if Nixon takes off, that makes Thornton WR#6? I don't like that, he needs more time than that. If you won't resign Meyers or Agholor, is it better to keep them to help Mac for a year or have him build up chemistry with guys that will be here for years? Kind of what I was getting at with bringing up Meyers contract. I would not be shocked if he's not on the team by October. We somehow ended up a little TOO deep at receiver. I still probably carry everyone into the season unless Nixon really forces himself onto the 54.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 14, 2022 8:31:05 GMT -5
Meyers finally signed his tender
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Post by texs31 on Jun 22, 2022 11:25:31 GMT -5
According to Adam Caplan, Strange is signing his contract today so we should hear about a move or 2 to clear space.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 24, 2022 10:15:40 GMT -5
Pats restructured Andrew's and created 2M of cap space. Have enough to formalize the remaining pick signings (which are now complete).
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 26, 2022 14:17:14 GMT -5
So I didn't understand why Cleveland traded for Watson and now it looks like he's going to get at least a full season suspension, if not longer. How dumb of any team to trade for him.
Browns just made the playoffs, just beat their biggest rival in the playoffs, so trade all future draft capital for a serial rapist, pissing off your very well-liked QB that you won't get crap for now and handcuff your cap for years while begging Cleveland for a $1B stadium.
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Post by cdj on Jun 26, 2022 17:43:18 GMT -5
Browns gonna Browns
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 26, 2022 17:45:50 GMT -5
Imagine how mad you would be if it were your team that did that. That's so infuriating. I'd probably quit being a fan. It would be like the Red Sox trading half their top 10 prospects for Felipe Vazquez and then paying him $300M.
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