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Patriots 2022 Offseason Thread
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Post by philarhody on Aug 29, 2022 21:55:58 GMT -5
The Patriots have had some of the best beat reporters in the world since this whole dynasty began. Some of those same beat reporters have been consistent in their reporting of how bad the offense has looked this preseason. I therefore have very low expectations for the 2022/2023 Patriots. Mac Jones looked Nathan Peterman-horrible in that Raiders game. I am concerned that we will all be pining for the Celtics come October.
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Post by cdj on Aug 29, 2022 22:57:00 GMT -5
The Patriots have had some of the best beat reporters in the world since this whole dynasty began. Some of those same beat reporters have been consistent in their reporting of how bad the offense has looked this preseason. I therefore have very low expectations for the 2022/2023 Patriots. Mac Jones looked Nathan Peterman-horrible in that Raiders game. I am concerned that we will all be pining for the Celtics come October. He threw one bad pass. Comparing him to Peterman is absurd. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 30, 2022 7:12:39 GMT -5
The Patriots have had some of the best beat reporters in the world since this whole dynasty began. Some of those same beat reporters have been consistent in their reporting of how bad the offense has looked this preseason. I therefore have very low expectations for the 2022/2023 Patriots. Mac Jones looked Nathan Peterman-horrible in that Raiders game. I am concerned that we will all be pining for the Celtics come October. He threw one bad pass. Comparing him to Peterman is absurd. He literally just did what I was complaining about, gotta take it to extreme levels because then it's a story that gets clicks and views. Bill literally just said the bar is 5-6 games into the season. I didn't see this much negative with Cam Newton in 2020 and he wasn't close to good. |
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Post by costpet on Aug 30, 2022 10:01:12 GMT -5
I think Mac does not trust his line to protect him for long, so if he sees someone charging to take his head off, he scrambles to avoid it, even through that rusher might have been picked up. Brady always trusted his line. If someone came in, he'd just stepped up to avoid the rush and fired a strike to his receiver. Mac hasn't got to that level yet because he doesn't have Brady's line to protect him. Once the line is straightened out, if ever, then you'll see a different Mac Jones.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 30, 2022 10:58:57 GMT -5
- Asiasi has been informed that he will be released, per Reiss.
- Mitchell informed of his release, per Reiss.
- Harvey Langi released, per Reiss.
- Drew Desjarlais and Kevin Harris (Daniels and Pelissaro)
- Arlington Hambright, per Rapsheet.
- Anderson, Bethel and Taylor, per Yates
- Wieland, Hammond, Pharms, McGrone
- Nixon and Humphrey
- Russey
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Post by congusgambler33 on Aug 30, 2022 13:13:01 GMT -5
I just can't wrap my head around Matt Patricia being the Offensive coordinator. Seeing him on the sidelines with the clipboard checking out offensive plays to come up with blows my mind. I wasn't aware that being a defensive coordinator to an offensive coordinator was interchangeable. Please enlighten me.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 30, 2022 13:25:39 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the terms you are using (though, seemingly, an argument in semantics) are what makes the idea seem so absurd.
- They are NOT interchangeable, of course. NOBODY believes or is saying that.
- He got his start with NE on the offensive line AND he was a head coach (so, presumably, he was a signficant part of the offensive gameplan - especially given the reports of how much he was trying to be the micro-manager that BB is).
- And, of course, technically he's not the OC (again, that may seem like semantics). Bill is.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 30, 2022 14:08:56 GMT -5
For me the huge difference for Patriots versus other teams is what we ask them to do. Normally an offensive Coordinator brings in a system, not here. There's the Patriots playbook, it's about how you want to use it. Just like every year Bill determines what we'll do within those playbooks and they have everything.
So the real question to ask, is MP smart enough to work with Bill picking out right plays, helping guys learn them, making adjustments? He knows how to adjust a D versus an offense, it's just the reverse.
Focus has been on making the offense more vertical, more big plays. That's what we need no? He's not inserting a triple option offense. It takes time and will look bad before it looks good.
MP first two years DL coach Amherst College, next 3 years graduate offensive assistant at Syracuse, first year patriots offensive coaching assistant, next year assistant coach offensive line, then named LB coach. First eight years as a coach he spent 5 on offense and 3 on D. Nevermind his head coaching experience, where he hired offensive coordinators and worked with them.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 30, 2022 15:28:17 GMT -5
Still waiting on more announcements as NE is down to 62 players but looks like Bledsoe and Mitchell have made the team per the local beat.
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Post by cdj on Aug 30, 2022 16:32:28 GMT -5
Still waiting on more announcements as NE is down to 62 players but looks like Bledsoe and Mitchell have made the team per the local beat. Mitchell or Roberts? I saw Sam Roberts has made it, I saw Mitchell got cut |
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Post by texs31 on Aug 30, 2022 16:34:49 GMT -5
Still waiting on more announcements as NE is down to 62 players but looks like Bledsoe and Mitchell have made the team per the local beat. Mitchell or Roberts? I saw Sam Roberts has made it, I saw Mitchell got cut DaMarcus not Terrence. Terrence was listed in my tracking post above. |
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Post by texs31 on Aug 30, 2022 18:24:07 GMT -5
53-Man set
QB - Mac Jones, Hoyer, Zappe
RB - Harris, Stevenson, Strong, Montgomery*
WR - Parker, Meyers, Agholar, Bourne, Thornton*
TE - Henry, Smith
OL - Brown, Strange, Andrews, Onwenu, Wynn, Herron, Cajuste, Hines
DL - Barmore, Godchaux, Guy, Wise, Davis, Roberts
EDGE - Judon, Jennings, Uche, Mitchell
LB - Bentley, McMillan, Wilson, Tavaii
CB - Mills, Jon Jones, Bryant, Marcus Jones, Jack Jones, Wade
S - McCourty, Phillips, Dugger, Pepper, Bledsoe
P - Bailey
K - Folk
LS - Cardona
ST - Slater, Davis, Schooler
* Montgomery and Thornton will likely go on IR with the possibility of returning. That clears 2 spaces and NE will likely need another RB and WR to replace them (Taylor or Harris, Humphrey the ideal candidates?)
NE will likely also need another TE (even if Humphrey is brought back - despite BB comments he supposedly hasn't practiced with TEs at all).
Hope Ray, Hussey, Nixon and McGrone are part of the list that will get signed to PS.
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Post by cdj on Aug 30, 2022 22:34:05 GMT -5
Would like to see Sokol and/or Asiasi make it to the PS
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Post by texs31 on Aug 31, 2022 6:33:47 GMT -5
Next 2 phases of roster construction come today:
12:00PM - Teams can start building their PS with the passing of the waiver deadline (we may hear about vested vets prior since they don't have to pass through waivers)
4:00PM - Teams can move players from the 53-Man to IR, making them eligible to return after 4 games.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 31, 2022 7:36:59 GMT -5
That will be the deciding factor for me grade wise, if he can get these guys to practice squad or resign them after players go on IR. That's the most talent I've seen cut in a while.
Right now you're light on RBs as Strong did almost nothing, TEs, interior OL. Not what I want to see with a young QB
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Post by texs31 on Aug 31, 2022 11:32:16 GMT -5
- Mark Daniels reporting that McGrone cleared and will be signed to the PS.
- Asiasi was claimed by the Bengals (per transaction wire via Breer). Nobody else claimed (and Pats didn't claim anyone) so, hopefully, we'll get some of our desired targets on to the PS.
- Bill Murray to PS.
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Post by cdj on Aug 31, 2022 14:45:52 GMT -5
Looks like everybody we wanted to get to the PS got to the PS (sans Asiasi as he’s now a bengal- they have Sokol and Wydermyer on the PS for TE depth)
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Post by texs31 on Aug 31, 2022 15:18:08 GMT -5
Was a little surprised they didn't bring back Hambright. He had been picking up support for the 53 (from the locals, anyway). There was a 16th player (OL, #68) at practice that was unidentified (some speculating that it was a guy they had brought in over the weekend).
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 31, 2022 15:24:47 GMT -5
Was a little surprised they didn't bring back Hambright. He had been picking up support for the 53 (from the locals, anyway). There was a 16th player (OL, #68) at practice that was unidentified (some speculating that it was a guy they had brought in over the weekend). One of the writers conjectured he'd be added to the 53 when Thornton goes on IL. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 31, 2022 16:27:06 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised only Asiasi got claimed, it was a good group and at times teams have gone crazy claiming our guys. Guess that's the benefit of fewer Patriot coaches in NFL and McDaniels having a talent roster, not rebuilding like other guys did.
Yet good job Bill, that's a darn good practice squad and very good depth.
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 31, 2022 19:36:56 GMT -5
Everyone that got cut pretty much made the practice squad. So let’s see if they can button up this offense till the first game. They pretty much turned over the defense. The safeties are stacked. I like that he going young at corner. Going young at linebacker is good but it’s a hard position to get right away. But BB had to flip over the LB’S.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Aug 31, 2022 22:34:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the terms you are using (though, seemingly, an argument in semantics) are what makes the idea seem so absurd. - They are NOT interchangeable, of course. NOBODY believes or is saying that. - He got his start with NE on the offensive line AND he was a head coach (so, presumably, he was a signficant part of the offensive gameplan - especially given the reports of how much he was trying to be the micro-manager that BB is). - And, of course, technically he's not the OC (again, that may seem like semantics). Bill is. thanks for the explanation that he has been back and forth as far as defense and offense..I have been enlightened. |
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Post by texs31 on Sept 1, 2022 9:50:02 GMT -5
Pats signing Lynn Bowden to PS, per Yates
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Post by cdj on Sept 1, 2022 10:15:13 GMT -5
Pats signing Lynn Bowden to PS, per Yates Spicy Loved him coming out but I’ve never seen a player given up on so quickly by another org after being drafted |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 1, 2022 12:22:23 GMT -5
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