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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 30, 2022 21:56:02 GMT -5
Even without Bodiger and Palmer, MASN broadcasts are much more informative and researched than NESN broadcasts. Barnes SSS (sans sticky stuff) is a major overpay. On the plus side, Dalbec might have figured out the best way for him to reach base. The sticky ban does not line up with Barnes's drop off the cliff. Pitching in both ends of a double-header last August (and then the next day to boot) does, almost perfectly.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 30, 2022 21:56:47 GMT -5
Keep wasting Nate's great pitching. this team reeks!!
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Post by prospectlove on Apr 30, 2022 21:59:28 GMT -5
From get go I’ve felt we have a ton of holes. Bullpen. Dalbec. Bradley. All major black holes. Add in the hitters struggling and poor situational hitting. Hopefully Duran and casas can help. ( not for this year either). But then we have other issues cropping up next year. Euvaldi will be gone Jd. Xander. Probably catcher. Could be a few years before we are always contenders again
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 30, 2022 22:10:59 GMT -5
To me the mortal sin of this game (and a couple others thus far) is not being able to get the ghost runner in from second. I'm starting to think that they need to sacrifice him over when they're on the road and at least have a better shot at the one run, then try for another on top of that afterwards.
Heck, you might even get the opposing pitcher to airmail third base on the bunt and then you've got a guy on second again with no outs and the ghost runner in.
I think you have to consider it, particularly for a team mired in a terrible scoring slump and in games where the offense has shown no signs of life in the first nine innings.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 30, 2022 22:15:08 GMT -5
The minor affiliate have forgotten how to win also. Only Worcester has a winning record and its 12-11, Greenville has 10 game losing streak. It is catching.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Apr 30, 2022 22:16:31 GMT -5
If only this team had a right fielder that could hit better than .156
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 30, 2022 22:20:26 GMT -5
Disagree. The biggest issue has been the offense, and it's almost the same team finished 5th in MLB in runs scored last year. wRC+ difference 2021 vs. 2022:
Bogaerts: +39 Bradley (NEW ADDITION): +10
Martinez: +10 Devers: -13 Verdugo: -25 Vazquez: -30 Story (NEW ADDITION): -32
Hernandez: -37
Arroyo: -66 Dalbec: -77 Plawecki: -122 Shaw: -178
Was Bloom supposed to anticipate almost every player on the team simultaneously starting the season like garbage?
Bradley has improved only because he was so godawful last year. Arroyo is a 26th man at best who NEVER walks. Vazquez stunk last year, so there was no reason to expect him to be good. And there is no depth at Triple-A (I know Casas is a great prospect, but you can't bring him up until he's ready). Refsnyder is not good, and they must think so little of him they picked up a guy the Giants waived and added him immediately in his place. Arroyo had a 102 OPS+ last year over 181 PA with solid defense at 2B. Seems more than reasonable as a middle infield backup / occasional RF backup. You can also more than live with 75 OPS+ from your starting catcher. There are very few catchers in baseball who perform on both sides of the ball, and none of them available on the FA market last year iirc. Bradley was acquired more for the prospects than for himself, and those prospects are both off to flying starts. Binelas has a .992 OPS in Greenville and Hamilton has a .908 OPS in Portland. I agree there's a hole in RF, but if the rest of the offense was performing near their career average levels Bradley's weak bat would be much less glaring.
I thought Refsynder looked good on both sides of the ball in the limited time he was up with the club and he's been raking at AAA (.551 OBP, 8/9 K/BB), so I was surprised he got sent down. I'd be perfectly comfortable with him coming back up once Davis inevitably gets DFA'd. Casas will likely be up in a month or two. I don't think anyone expected going into the year that Dalbec would be such a black hole at 1B that we'd be itching for Casas after only a month.
The bullpen's already being tested in terms of depth because of Sale's and Taylor's injuries and because Houck and Crawford are antivax. It should be less of an issue once Taylor, Sale, and Paxton come back, and there actually is some bullpen depth in the minors: Bazardo, Schreiber (looked good in Toronto), Kelly, German (especially later in the year). Danish even looked great in his first outing before looking terrible his next time out, albeit in a tough spot. It's just hard to shuttle tons of these guys through the ML bullpen when they're not already on the 40 man. Doing so before it's really necessary increases the risk of losing someone useful for nothing to waivers.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 30, 2022 22:28:03 GMT -5
Hate to say it but it seems to me Bloom's inability to bolster the team is coming to haunt him.
I mean his trademark is to be able to build the fringes of the roster better than his counterparts yet the Sox bench is worthless, the lineup is not particularly deep and their bullpen is putrid.
You'd think he can identify a potential high leverage closer/reliever among all those arms out there but he has yet to identify that guy and as a result they have yet to replace Barnes since he went south and it's showing with all these demoralizing walkoff losses and blown leads. Beyond the 27th and 28th spots on the roster there's a lot of deadwood doing nothing. Even the JBJ trade...by itself it might be a really good deal down the road but to help this team he needed a RF replacement for 2021 Renfroe and he didn't get that guy. He didn't even get a platoon guy for JBJ, not that he should be starting anyways. I guess Story is the lineup replacement but a lot more expensive and a downgrade from the potential loss of X.
The Wacha and Strahm moves look useful but little else has been added to help.
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Post by manfred on Apr 30, 2022 22:31:32 GMT -5
Hate to say it but it seems to me Bloom's inability to bolster the team is coming to haunt him. I mean his trademark is to be able to build the fringes of the roster better than his counterparts yet the Sox bench is worthless, the lineup is not particularly deep and their bullpen is putrid. You'd think he can identify a potential high leverage closer/reliever among all those arms out there but he has yet to identify that guy and as a result they have yet to replace Barnes since he went south and it's showing with all these demoralizing walkoff losses and blown leads. Beyond the 27th and 28th spots on the roster there's a lot of deadwood doing nothing. Even the JBJ trade...by itself it might be a really good deal down the road but to help this team he needed a RF replacement for 2021 Renfroe and he didn't get that guy. He didn't even get a platoon guy for JBJ, not that he should be starting anyways. I guess Story is the lineup replacement but a lot more expensive and a downgrade from the potential loss of X. The Wacha and Strahm moves look useful but little else has been added to help. Let’s not forget we’ve traded down in the OF three years in a row. Maybe that pays off in 3 years, but it is not helping these days.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 30, 2022 22:37:50 GMT -5
This is completely unconvincing to me -- it actually makes my point.
It says right there that the average game is called 94% accurately and is 94% consistent -- if the umps were students in your professor's cushy class, they'd average an A and he'd have to earn his money figuring out how to grade them on a curve.
So there were 133 pitches called balls or strikes (i.e. not struck by a bat) by the ump in this random sample of a game. An average ump would miss 8 pitches out of 133, in 18 half-innings -- that's less than one miss for every two half-innings. It's simply not enough to get anyone's panties in a wad over it.
Obviously, there are better umps and worse umps, so over time you cull out the worse umps, rather than throw the baby out with the bathwater and radically changing the game.
I guess my advice to those who can't bear 94% accuracy and 94% consistency from baseball umpires is to never watch football and never, ever watch basketball. Those refs will have you jumping off a tall building.
We have the technology to make that number 100% every night, though. The run score in the middle makes it very clear how much these mistakes can matter, and it's painfully clear to fans, especially on nights when the umpire is worse than normal. This is inevitably frustrating to fans, even if the bad calls even out over time. The only reason to prefer the 94% to the 100% is out of love for tradition. It's not even about the spectacle of seeing the umpire physically make the calls, because that could still happen with a computerized strike zone. It's nothing more, and nothing less, than wanting a human to make the call because that's how it has always been.
If umps were better this would not be as much of a concern, but they're not. You can't just remove the worse umps because the umpires are unionized and the union won't stand for it.
I 100% agree with you about football and - especially - about basketball. I don't watch the NBA in large part because of the refereeing. Same goes for MLS, which I used to watch a lot; penalty kick triple jeopardy, soft cards, and the as-yet disastrous implementation of VAR were eventually too frustrating in such a low-scoring game.
MLB is usually much better, especially with video replay, but it has tons of room for improvement. I think the goal should be to provide the most fair and entertaining game for fans, with less focus on the umpires and more focus on the players.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 30, 2022 22:42:09 GMT -5
Hate to say it but it seems to me Bloom's inability to bolster the team is coming to haunt him. I mean his trademark is to be able to build the fringes of the roster better than his counterparts yet the Sox bench is worthless, the lineup is not particularly deep and their bullpen is putrid. You'd think he can identify a potential high leverage closer/reliever among all those arms out there but he has yet to identify that guy and as a result they have yet to replace Barnes since he went south and it's showing with all these demoralizing walkoff losses and blown leads. Beyond the 27th and 28th spots on the roster there's a lot of deadwood doing nothing. Even the JBJ trade...by itself it might be a really good deal down the road but to help this team he needed a RF replacement for 2021 Renfroe and he didn't get that guy. He didn't even get a platoon guy for JBJ, not that he should be starting anyways. I guess Story is the lineup replacement but a lot more expensive and a downgrade from the potential loss of X. The Wacha and Strahm moves look useful but little else has been added to help. Let’s not forget we’ve traded down in the OF three years in a row. Maybe that pays off in 3 years, but it is not helping these days. The bigger concern to me is not having guys pushing their way up to replace guys. The Sox weren't giving Mookie 365 million and and Benintendi had accomplished very little over the past 3 years and the Sox brought back the one who was an easy decision to let walk. But where are the outfield prospects? Duran still has a shot but if he can't force his way up and establish himself with the gaping hole in RF then when will he? Who else is there? Miguel Bleis? He's many years a way, so who knows? Same with Cedanne? Slim pickings in the OF over the next few years. Rice/Lynn/Evan's it's not.
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Post by blizzards39 on Apr 30, 2022 22:47:28 GMT -5
Let’s wait Til 40 games. There are still lots of positives. But I here ya, this is hard to watch.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 30, 2022 22:49:31 GMT -5
Clutch loss tonight.
The race for a lottery pick is on!
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Post by manfred on Apr 30, 2022 22:55:28 GMT -5
Let’s not forget we’ve traded down in the OF three years in a row. Maybe that pays off in 3 years, but it is not helping these days. The bigger concern to me is not having guys pushing their way up to replace guys. The Sox weren't giving Mookie 365 million and and Benintendi had accomplished very little over the past 3 years and the Sox brought back the one who was an easy decision to let walk. But where are the outfield prospects? Duran still has a shot but if he can't force his way up and establish himself with the gaping hole in RF then when will he? Who else is there? Miguel Bleis? He's many years a way, so who knows? Same with Cedanne? Slim pickings in the OF over the next few years. Rice/Lynn/Evan's it's not. That is more what I was getting at. Not relitigating… more pointing out that there has been zero forward progress in the OF.
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Post by benzinger on Apr 30, 2022 23:22:29 GMT -5
JBJ with back to back lineouts at .780 and .710 xBA. I have a much more accurate calculation for JBJ’s xBA: It’s .200
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Post by benzinger on Apr 30, 2022 23:30:45 GMT -5
DEAD TEAM WALKING!!
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 30, 2022 23:46:17 GMT -5
It’s a shame the team couldn’t take advantage of their opportunity last year, now seems like that was the last hurrah of this core.
They had a good, and fun run though.
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 30, 2022 23:47:03 GMT -5
I Stand by my win 12+ of the next 20 statement. We are now 1-1 in those 20 games. Anything kess than 12 out of 20.... sell. Eovaldi and X will get a huge haul... thsn guys like Wacha, and the bullpen pieces
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Post by blizzards39 on May 1, 2022 0:03:23 GMT -5
We are only -5 in runs. ( jays are 0). The starting pitching has generally been real good. It’s mostly been the offence. And some real untimely errors and a couple HRs by the pen. Any hitting at all would be 2-5 more wins.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on May 1, 2022 1:56:23 GMT -5
Are we still on the Bobby thing? He’ll come around? Cause… that position becomes more courageous every game. It was so refreshing seeing Franchy in there last night, even though he went 0-4, because he did not strike out once and is not named Bobby Dalbec. I'm not ready to give up on Bobby, but I am ready to give up on Bobby starting. I want him starting against lefties and other than that backing up corner IF and sprinking in some DH time.
Bobby is going 0- everyone right now. He should be demoted until he shows any signs of turning it around. Maybe even put him in RF to see if he can be of help out there. Bobby isn't bad right now. Kyle Schwarber is bad and the difference between them is more than a half game in favor of Schwarber. Bobby might be off to a historically awful start.
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Post by taiwansox on May 1, 2022 3:22:26 GMT -5
So glad I was traveling to miss this game
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on May 1, 2022 7:24:28 GMT -5
Well, at least we have the Celtics and Bruins playoff runs as a distraction. The only thing worse than the Red Sox right now is Tony Mazz in the broadcasting crew.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 1, 2022 7:56:07 GMT -5
SOX have an awesome 11-man staff. Relegate Barnes to mop up.
Waive Arroyo, Ronaldo Option Dalbec Give us Fitz
Kiké/JBJ CF platoon Play Jaylin ...
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Post by sarasoxer on May 1, 2022 8:31:47 GMT -5
The minor affiliate have forgotten how to win also. Only Worcester has a winning record and its 12-11, Greenville has 10 game losing streak. It is catching. Yeah I've been watching our minor league performance especially after last year when we had an impressive cumulative record. This year we were up early to +17 wins. Bottom has dropped out. The Casas train has derailed (hopefully temporarily). Duran was en fuego last year but tanked in Boston. The AAA to majors gap seemed to be cavernous. What would Casas produce in a similar jump when he is Not lighting it up for the WooSox? I feel for Dalbec...Oooff. Keep your head up... Sure it's early but it looks like we have only 3 reliable offensive players in Bogey, Devers and Verdugo....for a team that historically has had an offensive calling card. Right now we are SAD. Prognosis negative, Jerry.
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Post by reasonabledoubt on May 1, 2022 8:53:05 GMT -5
If only this team had a right fielder that could hit better than .156 JBJ is JBJ. But I love how he's the lightning rod for what the problem is for this club for many of the posters here. To me you can start complaining about JBJ only AFTER the players that are EXPECTED to perform well offensively start doing so. Love the free passes Verdugo, Story, and Kiké are getting. Verdugo, after a great start, looks like last year's version. But at least he's had a few impactful games. Story and Kiké have been major disappointments thus far. If either of those two have had any real impact moments, I'm hard pressed to remember any.
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