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Post by cdj on Jul 3, 2022 9:49:15 GMT -5
I’ve looked into what pacers fans think about his defense. He tends to have problems with athletic guards but is actually pretty good when he gets switched onto wings. I wouldn’t look at him as a total liability on that end but he isn’t really a great athlete and that limits how his defense plays at this level edit: looks like philarhody got there before me lol They’ll absolutely be able to play him late in games imo, you just need a good guard defender with him to take the other teams more athletic guard. Fortunately they have Smart and White for that. Gallinari obviously isn’t a good defender, he’ll probably get cooked by athletic wings but can probably hold up ok against 4’s and small ball 5’s Offensively the team took some major steps, and I think that our biggest issue was a consistent scoring threat outside of the big 2. We now got a couple people who can fill it up a bit off the bench Is he better than Kanter? as Kanter only really was in the rotation for a short period of time due mainly to his D as his offense was fine. I’m better than Kanter on D, Gallinari is too |
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Post by texs31 on Jul 3, 2022 9:59:06 GMT -5
Good points above (and I think RJP suggested it earlier). While I wouldn't expect a pure addition into the TPE, it could be used as a mechanism in a trade where some salary goes out as well.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 3, 2022 10:16:50 GMT -5
Yesterday I was very excited about our acquisitions....Brogdon was reported as a two way player, excellent passer..a star...Celtics declared early favorites for a 2023 championship, Brad a trade meister. After reading this page, my dauber is down... If ppl were reporting him as a star that’s a little silly. You don’t get stars for a protected first and fodder. He’s a good basketball player though. They got a lot better yesterday What I was referring to in addition to similar articles... www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/malcolm-brogdon-highlights-watch-new-celtics-stars-best-2021-22-moments |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 3, 2022 10:59:27 GMT -5
In Basketball center is like combining SS and CF in baseball. No position can add or take away more defensive value. No matter how bad any player is, they can't reach Kanters level unless they play center. Even Gallinari at center in our D is likely better than Kanter. Stevens knew what Imes D was going to be, there's zero reasons he should have signed him.
It's like signing Kornet right now. Why? No one is talking about given the two other moves. You need center help, yet Kornet gives you bad D and bad offense. He's not even a good veteran for leadership which has at least some value. Maximize your roster spots with either win now players for a championship run or younger upside guys for the future. Kornet is neither, I wouldn't waste a two way contract if he was eligible.
3 roster spots, Hauser is getting a new deal per reports, so it's really two spots. You have to get another center, you're all in on a championship run with a massive tax bill. Too bad Myles Turner doesn't fit in that trade exception. He'd actually be worth the crazy tax cost as about the best Robert Williams insurance available. Davison likely get two way contract. Kabengele is a good candidate to get a two way or regular roster spot. I expect a monster summer league after what he did in G-league. You could use an athletic wing defender.
Yet I agree highly unlikely you use exception now, Brogdon was like using $10 million of it to get a Crowder type guy. You added like 17 million after you account for filling out the roster. It would need to be a slam dunk type move. Pick up assets like a first to help another trade, very good young player or a veteran like Turner who's high impact. Could change a playoff series type guy. Just massive tax costs now after moves already made.
As a few have mentioned trading Pritchard could certainly make sense for a Zeke type player. At the same time doesn't White need to be considered? You have to come up with so rather creative small ball lineups to get Smart, Brogdon and White the minutes their salaries warrant. Already talk about Brogdon being traded at deadline if it doesn't workout.
Trader Danny is now Trader Stevens, he's just itching to make more trades. I'd actually be surprised if he didn't make at least one more move. Pritchard is just too good of a player to basically have no shot at real minutes without an injury. Even then it could be difficult. Jazz just landed Leandro Bolmaro, Danny loves Pritchard. Take a gamble on a 6'6" play creating euro who picked us a bunch of steals.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 3, 2022 12:51:26 GMT -5
Hauser has indeed signed...3 yrs about 6M total, per reports
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Post by cdj on Jul 3, 2022 15:07:15 GMT -5
I’ve got some pretty high hopes for Hauser. He looked athletic enough to play ok defense and he would really help us space the floor
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2022 15:09:05 GMT -5
Herro wants a max contract. hahahaha
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Post by mobaz on Jul 3, 2022 17:09:20 GMT -5
Herro wants a max contract. hahahaha Obviously didn't watch himself in the playoffs. Guessing he uses injury as an excuse, but he was awful. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2022 17:23:59 GMT -5
Herro wants a max contract. hahahaha Obviously didn't watch himself in the playoffs. Guessing he uses injury as an excuse, but he was awful. I wouldn't give max to anyone who doesn't even try on defense. |
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Post by cdj on Jul 3, 2022 18:08:29 GMT -5
Thunder waived Isaiah Roby, I’d like him for the minimum plz
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 3, 2022 20:31:43 GMT -5
Thunder waived Isaiah Roby, I’d like him for the minimum plz Amazing they just released him, absolutely perfect fit. |
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Post by cdj on Jul 3, 2022 21:51:22 GMT -5
Thunder waived Isaiah Roby, I’d like him for the minimum plz Amazing they just released him, absolutely perfect fit. Right in that Tatum age bracket too. Since he was waived we could theoretically claim him, I don’t know what the cap implications are and if we have to wait for him to clear to offer him the min Somebody may offer him decent money though, he’s a really interesting guy |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 4, 2022 7:57:07 GMT -5
Amazing they just released him, absolutely perfect fit. Right in that Tatum age bracket too. Since he was waived we could theoretically claim him, I don’t know what the cap implications are and if we have to wait for him to clear to offer him the min Somebody may offer him decent money though, he’s a really interesting guy His contract is under 2 million and if you claim him you get Bird rights no? Unless I'm missing something he's going to be claimed by multiple teams. I basically forgot about waiver wire because it's not a big thing in Basketball unlike Baseball. I just don’t understand why the Thunder released him, he was their best young player. His tape is impressive. PF/C, very good on D, with an improving offensive game. Weird offseason, teams are moving on from Kessler and him, while Kornet gets a contract. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 4, 2022 8:27:12 GMT -5
Weird offseason, teams are moving on from Kessler and him, while Kornet gets a contract. Maybe Kornet is good as a practice buddy? Like he's tall as heck, maybe he can help others use the smaller center of gravity on him to practice for guys like Gobert and Embiid? I'm really struggling to see why he's on the roster too, this is the best explanation I got. |
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Post by cdj on Jul 4, 2022 9:08:38 GMT -5
He’s on the roster because he’s a UniKorn
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Post by jmei on Jul 4, 2022 16:17:58 GMT -5
Coaches like guys who can come in and play the scheme and work hard in practice, even if they have physical or skill limitations. That sounds like Kornet in a nutshell.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 4, 2022 17:07:23 GMT -5
Thunder waived Isaiah Roby, I’d like him for the minimum plz 7'3" wingspan....50% shooter from the field...was over 40% from 3 last year, nearly a block a game in 21 minutes...something is off here. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 5, 2022 5:53:40 GMT -5
Thunder waived Isaiah Roby, I’d like him for the minimum plz 7'3" wingspan....50% shooter from the field...was over 40% from 3 last year, nearly a block a game in 21 minutes...something is off here. Likely situation is that OKC has way too many players for too few roster spots. They would have had to trade him to a team without taking anyone back which means a team needs to take him into cap space or a TPE. Maybe OKC could have found a taker for a non-asset but then you are kind of screwing the player for basically nothing and his contract wasn’t guaranteed, but would have been if they didn’t waive him when they did. That deadline, further complicated things as teams probably didn’t want to use cap space for a player like him at this stage. Remember they just drafted 3 more guys in the top 12 this year. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 5, 2022 10:03:36 GMT -5
That's the problem with the Thunders current rebuild formula, they literally have too many picks. They aren't dumping guys that have just sucked. Roby is as quick as Grant Williams, with much more overall athletic ability and a crazy wingspan. He's able to drive to the basket. Even if his 3 point shot was a fluke this year, he still looks like a rotation piece on a contender. He's also not a guy like Dort, putting up big inefficient numbers that wouldn't translate to a better team. You'd think at minimum You'd want a guy like him to help the young guys play the right way. Show them D matters.
Interesting note, Thunder payed Roby over minimum his first year. So claiming team has to use cap space or trade exception. Even though he's on a minimum deal now. I think we have a few trade exceptions and that helps eliminate a lot of teams from claiming him.
In regards to Kornet I don't see a scheme fit, which is why it makes no sense for helping you during games. He's a stretch big that hasn't been good at doing that for the last 3 years. He's not a good defender, still can't get over that Embiid game from 2 years ago. I thought Embiid was going to injury him. Hard worker, high basketball IQ, maybe a great teammate that everyone likes, has too be something like that. I don't disagree those guys can be useful, yet get a veteran that can command some respect. Someone with playoff experience that can help the younger guys like Iggy on Warriors. This team could use some good veteran leadership, maybe Gallinari and Brogdon add that I just don't know enough about them and they don't really have any playoff success. Just not the biggest fan of Smart being your best leader given some of things he says and Horford is the quite lead by example type guy.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 5, 2022 11:31:09 GMT -5
Danny was Vito. Brad is Michael. I look at Danny like he was Hyman Roth, he thought he was gonna outlive everyone even Brad Stevens (Michael). |
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 5, 2022 11:33:55 GMT -5
Herro wants a max contract. hahahaha Obviously didn't watch himself in the playoffs. Guessing he uses injury as an excuse, but he was awful. Mobaz he was watching himself on the big screen all suited up on the sideline not playing in the eastern conference finals. With shades on. Thank the lord he is the heats headache. Lol |
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Post by cdj on Jul 5, 2022 14:15:59 GMT -5
That's the problem with the Thunders current rebuild formula, they literally have too many picks. They aren't dumping guys that have just sucked. Roby is as quick as Grant Williams, with much more overall athletic ability and a crazy wingspan. He's able to drive to the basket. Even if his 3 point shot was a fluke this year, he still looks like a rotation piece on a contender. He's also not a guy like Dort, putting up big inefficient numbers that wouldn't translate to a better team. You'd think at minimum You'd want a guy like him to help the young guys play the right way. Show them D matters. Interesting note, Thunder payed Roby over minimum his first year. So claiming team has to use cap space or trade exception. Even though he's on a minimum deal now. I think we have a few trade exceptions and that helps eliminate a lot of teams from claiming him. In regards to Kornet I don't see a scheme fit, which is why it makes no sense for helping you during games. He's a stretch big that hasn't been good at doing that for the last 3 years. He's not a good defender, still can't get over that Embiid game from 2 years ago. I thought Embiid was going to injury him. Hard worker, high basketball IQ, maybe a great teammate that everyone likes, has too be something like that. I don't disagree those guys can be useful, yet get a veteran that can command some respect. Someone with playoff experience that can help the younger guys like Iggy on Warriors. This team could use some good veteran leadership, maybe Gallinari and Brogdon add that I just don't know enough about them and they don't really have any playoff success. Just not the biggest fan of Smart being your best leader given some of things he says and Horford is the quite lead by example type guy. I look at the bench mob like Groot from Guardians of the Galaxy 1. The trading of them for Brogdon was the sacrifice they made for the betterment of the team and they left a twig behind (the UniKorn) to grow back into a whole new bench mob, which will cheer us on as we once again gallivant to the finals |
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Post by texs31 on Jul 5, 2022 16:23:07 GMT -5
Spurs claim Roby. Good get.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 5, 2022 18:18:09 GMT -5
Has anyone seen a post from Voice since his heart surgery? I feel like it was before game 5 in the finals…
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 5, 2022 18:21:00 GMT -5
Has anyone seen a post from Voice since his heart surgery? I feel like it was before game 5 in the finals… Looks like that was his last post; I hope he’s alright. |
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