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Post by cdj on Jul 16, 2022 21:06:35 GMT -5
Impressive game from Begarin
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Post by texs31 on Jul 16, 2022 22:06:41 GMT -5
Kabengele gets the 2 way.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 17, 2022 3:22:08 GMT -5
Impressive game from Begarin For the life of me i will never understand why the Celtics wouldn’t drop a couple hundred grand on giving him a personal coach to live near him to just work on his game. His ability is off the charts just raw, but it seems like he’s a hard worker. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 17, 2022 11:08:04 GMT -5
www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/juhann-begarin-1.htmlHe's playing in the top French League, one of the better ones in the world. As you can see still needs work. So I wouldn't be pushing him to join the euro league just yet. Can a team do that with a player not under contract? Has it ever been done before? I actually prefer he learns the European way of playing Basketball, it's exactly what he needs. I prefer the top French league to the G league. Players won't come and go, it's more about team play and chemistry. That's the value of international picks, they can develop overseas with good coaching. It's more skill than athlete over there. Perfect for very raw great athletes. I would love to send Davison overseas for a few years.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 17, 2022 15:42:52 GMT -5
I wouldn't laugh at the Jazz, it's really something we should be looking at. They went all in for years, didn't develop any young talent and are now rebuilding because they really had no other options. Brad needs to stop trading first round picks or get really good at finding young players other ways. Langford and Nesmith are gone, Pritchard is buried so deep on the bench he likely can't even get minutes. Just like the Jazz with Mitchell, who's going to be around with Tatum and Brown hit their primes? You'd feel better if you could pencil Robert Williams in for the 6 plus years. He's improving, yet still a question mark going forward. Don't get me wrong I'm excited for the next few years. Yet Stevens better be careful the way he's going. He's in danger of taking a roster that was too young and making it too old. Umass I was actually laughing at dealing with the Knicks. I like Danny he has a good draft eye. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 18, 2022 8:31:38 GMT -5
www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/juhann-begarin-1.htmlHe's playing in the top French League, one of the better ones in the world. As you can see still needs work. So I wouldn't be pushing him to join the euro league just yet. Can a team do that with a player not under contract? Has it ever been done before? I actually prefer he learns the European way of playing Basketball, it's exactly what he needs. I prefer the top French league to the G league. Players won't come and go, it's more about team play and chemistry. That's the value of international picks, they can develop overseas with good coaching. It's more skill than athlete over there. Perfect for very raw great athletes. I would love to send Davison overseas for a few years. I honestly am not sure, if it’d be allowed but it should be. I like him developing there, but it’d be nice to get a personal coach to work on handle and shooting. They should have Pritchard teach all these guys his daily routine and ask them all to do it. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 18, 2022 10:08:25 GMT -5
Haywards TPE expires today so it’s possible we get a significant move by the team. It’s likely we get nothing, but if it’s happening it’s today.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 19, 2022 5:40:24 GMT -5
Looks like the Celtics are higher on Kornet than the rest of us. Combining Brads comments from last week, with their lack of adding someone thru the TPE, The only other options are much smaller TPEs, that not much fits into and vet minimum deals.
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Post by cdj on Jul 19, 2022 6:21:19 GMT -5
I don’t think they wanted to pay the millions in penalties if they used that exception
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Post by texs31 on Jul 19, 2022 7:07:55 GMT -5
A big that they were going to be looking at would likely move into the Daniel Theis role (a guy who can play regular minutes for a stretch but then might also DNP on given nights when Al and both Williams' are healthy/rested).
Is there a guy out there that would've a) made sense in that role; b) required the large tpe and c) warranted the increased tax bill?
Cause I can't think of one.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 19, 2022 11:04:36 GMT -5
If the Celtics are hiring specialists to help players, let's focus in Brown, Tatum, Williams, Smart, etc. If you don't like the coaching on a foreign team, have him switch teams. I like that his team had guys from the US. Yet that's just my two cents.
The comments about Kornet are either just what a GM does or we should be worried. Kornet has never shown he can be the third big on a championship team, nevermind one with injury concerns and an older player. If he's that guy why wasn't he used during last years playoffs? Besides garbage time he wasn't.
There are tons of players that fit our need. Worth the tax money? Almost no one. Yet they did that to themselves. PG or combo guard whatever you want to call it was our deepest position. I truly believe Pritchard could start for a bunch of teams. He's now 4th on the depth chart and likely struggles for minutes. That's because you added White and Brogdon which make combined almost 40 million.
I'm not upset they didn't use the exception, they added the salary I wanted them too. You don't go crazy with the tax for the type of players teams want to unload. Derrick Favors is a perfect addition, he's not worth the crazy tax though. You likely chase him when he's bought out. Even Myles Turner, the best Robert Williams insurance available isn't worth the crazy tax and he's a guy you could legit start playoff games, play 30 minutes and anchor your D.
You could solve all your problems by playing smaller, which the roster is built to do. Otherwise you likely should use the first half of the year to determine which PG you move. White is a crazy expensive bench piece when he's not even your 6th man anymore. Pritchard is just too good to not get any minutes.
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Post by mobaz on Jul 19, 2022 12:32:58 GMT -5
If the Celtics are hiring specialists to help players, let's focus in Brown, Tatum, Williams, Smart, etc. If you don't like the coaching on a foreign team, have him switch teams. I like that his team had guys from the US. Yet that's just my two cents. The comments about Kornet are either just what a GM does or we should be worried. Kornet has never shown he can be the third big on a championship team, nevermind one with injury concerns and an older player. If he's that guy why wasn't he used during last years playoffs? Besides garbage time he wasn't. There are tons of players that fit our need. Worth the tax money? Almost no one. Yet they did that to themselves. PG or combo guard whatever you want to call it was our deepest position. I truly believe Pritchard could start for a bunch of teams. He's now 4th on the depth chart and likely struggles for minutes. That's because you added White and Brogdon which make combined almost 40 million. I'm not upset they didn't use the exception, they added the salary I wanted them too. You don't go crazy with the tax for the type of players teams want to unload. Derrick Favors is a perfect addition, he's not worth the crazy tax though. You likely chase him when he's bought out. Even Myles Turner, the best Robert Williams insurance available isn't worth the crazy tax and he's a guy you could legit start playoff games, play 30 minutes and anchor your D. You could solve all your problems by playing smaller, which the roster is built to do. Otherwise you likely should use the first half of the year to determine which PG you move. White is a crazy expensive bench piece when he's not even your 6th man anymore. Pritchard is just too good to not get any minutes.I think this is it. Team has one too many PG and one too few big, but isn't ready to remove the depth yet. White's $17m fits a lot of guys mid season if needed, though there aren't a lot of bigs worth $17m. The worst part is not being able to limit Horford/Rob minutes early in the season, and both will need it after the longest hardest seasons ever. So either Kornet really plays 15 min a game, they use Kabengele more than intended, or they really try Gallo or Grant as small 5s at times early in the season. Or they sneak a Harrell, Dwight or Whiteside as a Min and squeeze whatever they can out of him. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 24, 2022 14:13:20 GMT -5
I'm really go crazy with these articles pumping up Kornet. You have one major weakness left. I'm 100% on WCS, yet the list of guys that make sense is rather long.
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Post by cdj on Jul 24, 2022 15:10:32 GMT -5
I'm really go crazy with these articles pumping up Kornet. You have one major weakness left. I'm 100% on WCS, yet the list of guys that make sense is rather long. Believe in the UniKorn, he’s majestic |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 24, 2022 22:35:06 GMT -5
I'm really go crazy with these articles pumping up Kornet. You have one major weakness left. I'm 100% on WCS, yet the list of guys that make sense is rather long. Believe in the UniKorn, he’s majestic He's the Green Kornet and he's just like the movie Green Hornet, he sucks. |
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Post by cdj on Jul 24, 2022 22:40:18 GMT -5
Just let him be tall and shoot 27% from 3, you’ll love it trust me. Legend says if you drink a little of his blood you live forever |
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Post by jmei on Jul 25, 2022 5:46:06 GMT -5
Woj reporting that the Celtics are still engaged with Brooklyn on KD. They can give up Brown and up to three picks and two swaps. I wouldn’t give up all of that, but am still in favor of a deal so long as KD is happy coming here.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 25, 2022 6:22:33 GMT -5
Woj reporting that the Celtics are still engaged with Brooklyn on KD. They can give up Brown and up to three picks and two swaps. I wouldn’t give up all of that, but am still in favor of a deal so long as KD is happy coming here. According to Shams, the offer was Brown, White and a pick. Brooklyn rejected that and countered with Brown, Smart, picks and potentially 1 more rotation player. |
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Post by mobaz on Jul 25, 2022 6:38:06 GMT -5
A healthy KD would hopefully not make everything such a slog so often, and we have a decent enough depth to lose 2 of our top 8, but ooff, really don't know on KD. I guess the assumption is KD's age 34-37 goes about like Lebrons, but Lebron is a once in a lifetime freak. Dirk, Duncan, Kobe all took huge steps back after 33, and Durant hasn't played a full season in 3 years.
I'm fully conflicted. I wonder if this is any indication Brad doesn't think JB is a Max-worthy Championship #2, do they think he won't sign to be a #2, or it's just due diligence on the most skilled player in the world. They certainly didn't make an offer Brooklyn couldn't refuse. There's obviously a path for this core to be good for the rest of the decade, but how often does that actually happen? GSW, San Antonio, ??
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Post by jmei on Jul 25, 2022 7:16:19 GMT -5
Woj reporting that the Celtics are still engaged with Brooklyn on KD. They can give up Brown and up to three picks and two swaps. I wouldn’t give up all of that, but am still in favor of a deal so long as KD is happy coming here. According to Shams, the offer was Brown, White and a pick. Brooklyn rejected that and countered with Brown, Smart, picks and potentially 1 more rotation player. As far as these things go, that seems like a pretty narrow bid/ask for a player of Durant’s caliber. I bet the Nets asked for all of Boston’s picks, which is going to be the biggest hurdle to work through. Feels like if both teams are motivated, they can get something done. |
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Post by cdj on Jul 25, 2022 7:26:20 GMT -5
Durant is 33, idk how I feel about this
Still very awesome at basketball at least
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Post by jmei on Jul 25, 2022 10:10:30 GMT -5
Clear that the Nets leaked the offer, by the way. (1) Stevens hasn’t leaked any of his prior moves, (2) Boston has no incentive to leak (it would only piss off Brown, which it has), while the Nets need to drum up some momentum again after a slow stretch, and (3) the Celtics offer is described with a lot of specificity but the Nets counteroffer is much more vague (generic reference to “picks” and “a rotation player”).
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 25, 2022 11:21:56 GMT -5
There's only one reason you'd trade Brown and that is if you feel you can't keep him 2 years from now. If that's the thinking here then yeah let's go nuts.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 25, 2022 11:37:57 GMT -5
There's only one reason you'd trade Brown and that is if you feel you can't keep him 2 years from now. If that's the thinking here then yeah let's go nuts. I'd offer that increasing the likelihood of winning a championship in those 2 years would be a reason (for most front offices, anyway). |
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Post by cdj on Jul 25, 2022 12:04:21 GMT -5
Seems like the Nets are simply being scumbags, i highly doubt a Durant deal happens
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