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Post by philarhody on Aug 1, 2022 13:41:43 GMT -5
Please clarify your question. Or logic problem. Or whatever is happening here. I find this very disingenuous. I'd like to think you could easily figure out that 10$ is a simple typo for 10% considering the rest of the sentence and that % AND $ are a key apart of the keyboard but you would rather utilize any chance you get to attempt to belittle. Be better than that and answer the question, If someone is 90% right because you can knit pick 10% doesn't change their point. I thought you were told to stop this non-sense already??I do not think Jimmy Butler is better than Kevin Durant. And I do not think the statement that Jimmy Butler is better than Kevin Durant is 90% right, or even half right. Does that make sense to you? |
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Post by philarhody on Aug 1, 2022 13:42:37 GMT -5
Bruno Caboclo gets a camp deal !!! He’s like 4 more years away from being 4 years away !!! |
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Post by cdj on Aug 1, 2022 14:42:19 GMT -5
I remember Bruno. He dominated the Brazilian league lol
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Post by texs31 on Aug 1, 2022 19:23:20 GMT -5
Noah Vonleh signing with Cs. Looks like a camp deal?
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 1, 2022 20:48:19 GMT -5
I find this very disingenuous. I'd like to think you could easily figure out that 10$ is a simple typo for 10% considering the rest of the sentence and that % AND $ are a key apart of the keyboard but you would rather utilize any chance you get to attempt to belittle. Be better than that and answer the question, If someone is 90% right because you can knit pick 10% doesn't change their point. I thought you were told to stop this non-sense already??I do not think Jimmy Butler is better than Kevin Durant. And I do not think the statement that Jimmy Butler is better than Kevin Durant is 90% right, or even half right. Does that make sense to you? By your own assessment would that not have beem the 10% part of his point, a clear tangent to make his point. Wether or not you disagree with that small supporting point is irrelvent to the bigger point. |
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Post by texs31 on Aug 1, 2022 21:11:41 GMT -5
Not an X 10 for Vonleh so looks like Vet min
Per Keith Smith
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 2, 2022 5:27:47 GMT -5
A few scattered thoughts: - I’m not particularly concerned about Durant’s 2022 playoffs. He was playing the best defensive team in the league with multiple options to throw at him on every play, coming off an unreasonable regular season workload, on a team with major culture/vibe issues, with zero help from his teammates and in a small sample size. You can’t consider the playoffs in isolation; when viewed together with his regular season, I don’t see any real issues. I think Durant is still a top 10 player in the league and one who is especially lethal in the playoffs given his ability to get a ~50% jump shot off against anyone at any time. - I’m less optimistic about this current core than most of you. I don’t see them as a top three team in the league at the moment (I have the Warriors, Bucks and Clippers ahead of them and the Suns, 76ers and Nuggets in the same tier) and I don’t see them as a perennial title contender as currently constructed. The second half of last season was great fun but it does not erase the issues seen in the first half. Development isn’t linear and you can’t assume that Tatum and Brown take another step forward, especially since the steps get harder from here on up (going from All-Star to best player on a championship team is particularly challenging). Durant has already shown he can do that, which is not something that should be easily dismissed. - I think Durant ages well. His size and shooting ability give him a high floor in terms of being able to play more PF and C as he gets older and still being able to get off his shot and adding a ton of value as a shot-up shooter (a la Dirk). He doesn’t need to get to the rim to shoot a high percentage and he still draws a lot of fouls. His lack of ball dominance makes him a perfect fit for an ascending Tatum. Injuries are a definite risk, though. - Durant is an underrated defender with tons of length and versatility. A Tatum/Durant/R. Williams frontcourt with Smart and Brogdon in the backcourt is a long, switchy, versatile lineup. - Trading for Durant increases the odds that you win one title but probably decreases the odds that you win multiple titles. That’s a tradeoff I’m willing to make. - With all that said, I’m not willing to give up Smart and I’m only willing to give up one or two near-term picks/swaps. No team can match Brown as an anchor piece in a trade and it’s a close enough call that I’m not giving up the pieces necessary to maximize title odds in the near term (Smart) or giving up the entire future (picks in 2025 and beyond). - Whether they trade for Durant or not, Rob Williams is the difference between a perennial title contender and merely a good team. If he stays healthy, he has an All-Star level impact on this team. This is just for sports conversation sake. I’ll start by saying some of these phrases we all use aren’t perfect but you said Durant has proven he can be the best player on a Championship team. And my question is, has he really done this? He joined a champion and continued to win with them. So sure, I guess he was the best player on that team, maybe, but Prime Steph Curry was on those teams and they had already won. So do we give Durant that distinction on technicality? Put it this way, he’s never “lead” a team to the promised land. |
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Post by jmei on Aug 2, 2022 5:49:01 GMT -5
All that other stuff is narrative. I’m not particularly concerned whether he drove the bus or was a passenger or whatever. What is fact is that he was the best player on a championship team.
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 2, 2022 9:35:50 GMT -5
Noah Vonleh signing with Cs. Looks like a camp deal? The year he got drafted I liked his write up and I wanted us to draft him, shows you how much I know. At least they get a look at him. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 2, 2022 10:49:43 GMT -5
Noah Vonleh signing with Cs. Looks like a camp deal? The year he got drafted I liked his write up and I wanted us to draft him, shows you how much I know. At least they get a look at him. Yeah still remember my draft process, got down to Smart, Randle and Vonleh. Vonleh was the raw swing for the fences guy, so I eliminated him, then struggled between Smart and Randle, picking Smart because of his ability to get FT, which reports said could be an issue in the NBA. All these years later he's still the that upside guy. Showed flashed back with Knicks. Legit NBA athlete, he just never fully developed. Spent the year in China, showing improved 3 point shooting, along with a ton of blocks and steals. So I'm interested to see him now, sometimes a guy like him just needs a year overseas playing a bigger role. More excited about Vonleh than Kornet. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 4, 2022 18:50:10 GMT -5
came here to say I prefer Vonleh to Kornet after looking into the signing
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Post by nomar on Aug 8, 2022 15:21:24 GMT -5
Idk who else is following this Murray vs Banchero beef today but this made me spit out my coffee
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Post by philarhody on Aug 8, 2022 18:41:56 GMT -5
Idk who else is following this Murray vs Banchero beef today but this made me spit out my coffee This is a bizarre insult.. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 11, 2022 10:05:14 GMT -5
So the Nets actually asked for Brown and Tatum for KD. How do you make that call and act serious? I would hope Stevens just hung up on them.
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Post by mobaz on Aug 11, 2022 10:12:12 GMT -5
So the Nets actually asked for Brown and Tatum for KD. How do you make that call and act serious? I would hope Stevens just hung up on them. Hope Brad countered with Horford, Derrick White, Grant Williams and a pick swap for KD. Same vibe. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 11, 2022 12:25:14 GMT -5
So the Nets actually asked for Brown and Tatum for KD. How do you make that call and act serious? I would hope Stevens just hung up on them. Literally would never answer a phone call from them again. They’re not a serious organization. |
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Post by seamus on Aug 11, 2022 12:42:15 GMT -5
If I was Stevens, I'd just put the phone down and let Brooklyn ramble as much as they'd like so they can leak that trade talks are happening. I think they're mostly trying to get Toronto to up its offer, and the Raptors ultimately paying a higher price for KD would be a good thing for the Celtics.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 11, 2022 14:20:20 GMT -5
I have serious doubts whether that was a legitimate ask. Again, there are so many conversations that, without context, could be reported as "an offer" or "an ask" and not be a lie.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 12, 2022 7:06:40 GMT -5
Literally would never answer a phone call from them again. They’re not a serious organization. This. Absolutely this. If there ever was a conversation that started with "I think Brown and Tatum are good value for old ass KD", then I'm just never bothering with them again. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 12, 2022 7:32:47 GMT -5
The reports are from legit sources and match other reports. Asked for Tatum and Brown, then went to Brown, Smart and tons of picks.
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Post by cdj on Aug 12, 2022 19:24:24 GMT -5
Kinda understand KD giving a “Marks or me” ultimatum now, Marks is clearly braindead.
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 13, 2022 10:57:32 GMT -5
I want to win a title with these two kids. To me it means more. If I could get a wish is to have Timelord the healthiest year ever.
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Post by philarhody on Aug 15, 2022 21:06:24 GMT -5
Why are we so insulted that Sean Marks would start off negotiations with a stupid, one sided trade proposal? We are acting like someone called our child ugly. Can you imagine Brad Stevens saying “don’t you ever, EVER call this phone again, you brain dead son of a bitch.”
Setting an unrealistic anchor is not uncommon in negotiations in all fields. No need to take it personal.
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Post by cdj on Aug 15, 2022 21:26:09 GMT -5
Why are we so insulted that Sean Marks would start off negotiations with a stupid, one sided trade proposal? We are acting like someone called our child ugly. Can you imagine Brad Stevens saying “don’t you ever, EVER call this phone again, you brain dead son of a bitch.” Setting an unrealistic anchor is not uncommon in negotiations in all fields. No need to take it personal. Because we have a finite amount of time on this planet and I had to waste 15 seconds of it reading about Sean Marks braindead initial request, I resent him for that. He deserves every bit of name-calling he gets from Celtics fans for such stupidity, it’s weird to suggest he doesn’t. |
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 19, 2022 12:16:32 GMT -5
This is the first real season I am pumped to watch nba. I am pleasantly surprised about our G.M. I wish Danny could of ran this team in tandem because Ainge has a good eye for drafting. It’s hard to get good players where the Celtics draft. Timelord was suppose to be a lottery pick , I remember that draft Danny didn’t hesitate to take him around 25, 25 or 27.
The only one I didn’t want was Marcus Smart , we never get good lottery slots. I didn’t know about Jaylen Brown. I loved how he played the Marcus Fultz pick masterstroke.
Don’t forget the 76ERS had like 4 straight top picks. Basketball is so friggin hard to succeed.
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