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4/12-4/15 Red Sox vs. Rays Series Thread
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Post by jmei on Apr 13, 2013 15:30:08 GMT -5
And there's one of the downsides of pinch running for your elite defensive catcher.
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 13, 2013 15:34:20 GMT -5
Great win.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 13, 2013 15:38:20 GMT -5
I was against the Victorino acquisition but I have very little bad so say about him so far during this short-sample spring.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 13, 2013 15:40:38 GMT -5
And there's one of the downsides of pinch running for your elite defensive catcher. And I thought Madden was GENIUS!!1!!ONE! Great win. Outside of Hanrahan, we have a truly remarkable pitching staff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2013 15:45:40 GMT -5
Great win, but I still do not trust Hanrahan at all. He can't even find the strike zone right now. At least for a while, until Hanrahan gets his confidence back, I would go with one of Uehara, Tazawa, or Bailey to close. Also, I was upset at first about acquiring Victorino because of a down year last year, but he is looking right now like a very good acquisition. Also, When will Bard, Breslow, and Morales be back in Boston?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 13, 2013 15:48:51 GMT -5
Great win, but I still do not trust Hanrahan at all. He can't even find the strike zone right now. ...Or ever, really.
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Post by theolearyfactor on Apr 13, 2013 15:54:06 GMT -5
Classic five man infield.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 13, 2013 16:39:53 GMT -5
Couple of takeaways from today's game...
Uhera and Bailey are the most effective relievers on the team. Given that Uhera probably can't go everyday, it is time to give the closer role to Bailey. Hanrahan should be relegated to the 5th/6th inning role to see if he can get his sh*t together. He is as bad as Gagme back in 2007.
Red Sox were fortunate to be playing the Rays who have no offensive punch. They need to get Myers up in the next couple of weeks to give them another bat.
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Post by danr on Apr 13, 2013 16:45:25 GMT -5
The starting lineup of the Rays is worse than the Yankees. With Toronto losing Reyes, the Orioles appear to have the best one, and the Sox might well be number two. This is the weakest hitting AL East in memory, maybe ever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2013 17:19:14 GMT -5
On another note....does Escobar stop working if the game lasts more than nine innings? First he has a lazy play on the high throw clanking off his glove. On the next batter he's throwing to 1st base as the winning run trots home. Was he paying attention to the game? At times this past offseason I thought that Escobar would be a nice cheap solution to the team's short stop issues. After that display, I am glad they didn't get him.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 13, 2013 17:36:45 GMT -5
The starting lineup of the Rays is worse than the Yankees. With Toronto losing Reyes, the Orioles appear to have the best one, and the Sox might well be number two. This is the weakest hitting AL East in memory, maybe ever. For all the talk about how smart the Rays are, they've been pretty terrible when it comes to building a competent offense. It's like, I know Jose Molina helps your pitching staff with his framing and all, but you know what else might help your pitching staff? A five run lead.
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Post by jmei on Apr 13, 2013 17:44:40 GMT -5
Not to be forgotten: Jon Lester, again proving his detractors wrong. He's now faced the three division rivals most prognosticators believe to be the top competition in the division, pitching opposite C.C. Sabathia, R.A. Dickey, and David Price, all Cy Young winners, and the Red Sox have come out on top in each game. Yeah, the Yankee and Ray offenses are far from terrifying, but an 18/3 K/BB and 1.42 ERA is damn impressive nonetheless.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 13, 2013 18:11:03 GMT -5
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Post by GyIantosca on Apr 13, 2013 19:45:18 GMT -5
Good strong win after those 2 tough losses. I think we can agree we probably lose this game today if it was last year.
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Post by marrcus on Apr 13, 2013 21:31:27 GMT -5
~ I question whether old Manager Francona would have taken Hanrahan out today? Maybe he would have if he thought he was going to get booed. But Tito may have gone with him ..... to another loss. Farrell's better.
~ The press really wants a Iglesias controversy. I don't see one.
~ In a DH league you feel it when you don't have an effective one. I hope Papi gets it together. But I don't feel good about him either as a hitter or baserunner. Hope to be proven wrong.
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Post by mainesox on Apr 14, 2013 2:18:40 GMT -5
I think Farrell deserves credit, not only for the quick trigger finger, but also for putting Hanrahan back in there today, and doing it with the intention of having the short leash on him.
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 14, 2013 3:32:02 GMT -5
The team actually looks like they want to play, and enjoy playing baseball. Now maybe last year's team didn't have that because the got off to such a poor start, but plenty of other teams have rotten years and still at least appear to somewhat enjoy playing.
My guess is it's partly because they aren't losing like last year, and partly because of the guys they added/subtracted.
Either way, at least for the most part, this should be a mildly entertaining ball club throughout the season at worst
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 14, 2013 7:26:41 GMT -5
I think Farrell deserves credit, not only for the quick trigger finger, but also for putting Hanrahan back in there today, and doing it with the intention of having the short leash on him. Agree, and I agree with striking with him as long as you are ready to do the same. This team is better if he can be an effective 9th inning guy. I do believe in the closer by committee theory but it doesn't necessarily work in practice.part of what is best about it is using your best guys in the 7th or 8th when often times its an even closer game and more dangerous batters are up. With Bailey, Koji and Tazawa this pen has 3 top notch guys. Hanrahan should be good enough once he straightens himself out a bit. Keep the course. When Breslow and Morales are ready, I wonder who goes...
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 14, 2013 9:22:28 GMT -5
When Breslow and Morales are ready, I wonder who goes... . Aceves, I hope
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Post by dd on Apr 14, 2013 9:25:49 GMT -5
Credit to Farrell for having a quick trigger finger there. I don't think I can remember the last time a Boston manager pulled a closer before the save was actually blown. I like it a lot!
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Post by larrycook on Apr 14, 2013 9:45:16 GMT -5
When Breslow and Morales are ready, I wonder who goes... . Aceves, I hope Or do the Sox send Hanrahan to the DL with a phantom injury so he can straighten out his mechanics a bit.
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Post by danr on Apr 14, 2013 11:01:23 GMT -5
WEEI says Bailey replacing Hanranhan as closer temporarily because Hanrahan has a hammie problem.
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Post by danr on Apr 14, 2013 11:54:29 GMT -5
The starting lineup of the Rays is worse than the Yankees. With Toronto losing Reyes, the Orioles appear to have the best one, and the Sox might well be number two. This is the weakest hitting AL East in memory, maybe ever. I have to correct myself. Looking at the team batting in today's NY Times, I see that the Yankees are the best-hitting team in the AL East, at .275. with the Orioles second, at .270 and the Sox third at .265. The Yankees are second to Oakland in HRs, 15 to Oakland's 19. The Yankees also are second to Oakland in runs scored, 54 to 70. Oakland, with a BA of .282 is second to Detroit, at .306. Tampa has only 4 HRs and a team BA of .227, second to last place Seattle at .221, but Seattle has 15 HRs and 48 runs scored. The AL Central looks to be the weakest in hitting so far, except for Detroit, which while having the top BA, has only 6 HRs.
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Post by jmei on Apr 14, 2013 12:27:47 GMT -5
The starting lineup of the Rays is worse than the Yankees. With Toronto losing Reyes, the Orioles appear to have the best one, and the Sox might well be number two. This is the weakest hitting AL East in memory, maybe ever. I have to correct myself. Looking at the team batting in today's NY Times, I see that the Yankees are the best-hitting team in the AL East, at .275. with the Orioles second, at .270 and the Sox third at .265. The Yankees are second to Oakland in HRs, 15 to Oakland's 19. The Yankees also are second to Oakland in runs scored, 54 to 70. Oakland, with a BA of .282 is second to Detroit, at .306. Tampa has only 4 HRs and a team BA of .227, second to last place Seattle at .221, but Seattle has 15 HRs and 48 runs scored. The AL Central looks to be the weakest in hitting so far, except for Detroit, which while having the top BA, has only 6 HRs. Here's a list of the AL teams, sorted by wRC+ (which adjusts for park effects). The Yankees are second (only behind the Oakland As, of all teams), with the Orioles 4th and the Red Sox 7th. Tampa Bay is last in the AL, with a cumulative .221/.295/.306 batting line.
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 14, 2013 13:37:41 GMT -5
Napoli hits a lot of balls that look like flyouts, but just keep carrying. He can really rake when he's going good.
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