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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 24, 2022 15:36:59 GMT -5
Casas playing great Bogaerts leads the league in hitting Judge stuck on 60 #13 draft slot
I guess I'm now a resident of Losertown, because I can't complain about this series.
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Post by shagworthy on Sept 24, 2022 15:37:00 GMT -5
and on queue Dalbec Dalbec’s the final out. I am done with the Bobby D experiment.
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Post by station13 on Sept 24, 2022 15:37:07 GMT -5
Letting dalbec hit is a crime. Let JDM hit for him
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 24, 2022 15:37:28 GMT -5
They should walk casas for dalbec What I win??
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 24, 2022 15:37:32 GMT -5
Like the whole season, that was anticlimactic.
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Post by benzinger on Sept 24, 2022 15:40:13 GMT -5
There's Mr. Clutch. That's the thing about Verdugo. Sort of like Bloom, he's not as great as his supporters say he is nor is he as bad as his detractors say he is. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. It’s almost as if you are describing a league average player.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 24, 2022 15:40:49 GMT -5
Casas playing great Bogaerts leads the league in hitting Judge stuck on 60 #13 draft slot I guess I'm now a resident of Losertown, because I can't complain about this series. Don't you find their inability to hit with men in scoring position approaching hilarity? I've now come to expect disappointment (sounds like a line from Princess Bride)
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 24, 2022 15:41:10 GMT -5
Like the whole season, that was anticlimactic. And Micro-cosmic!
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Post by radiohix on Sept 24, 2022 15:42:40 GMT -5
Casas has a 96 wRC+ despite a .071 BABIP 🤣 It’s now a 101 wRC+. Hitters’ plate discipline should be the major requirement when shopping in this offseason FA market. Enough of the Trevor Story types!
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Post by incandenza on Sept 24, 2022 15:42:59 GMT -5
There's Mr. Clutch. That's the thing about Verdugo. Sort of like Bloom, he's not as great as his supporters say he is nor is he as bad as his detractors say he is. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. It’s almost as if you are describing a league average player. "Verdugo is a league average player" is exactly what his supporters say...
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 24, 2022 15:43:49 GMT -5
Casas will be a significant improvement to next year's team at first base We all really hope you are right. The 162 game grind separates the men from the boys.
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 24, 2022 15:46:51 GMT -5
Casas playing great Bogaerts leads the league in hitting Judge stuck on 60 #13 draft slot I guess I'm now a resident of Losertown, because I can't complain about this series. Not really I think the majority here realized early on this team besides having more than their share of injuries was a deeply flawed roster. I lived 43 years thinking I would die before the curse of the Bambino was broken. Four chips in 14 years has changed my perspective a lot.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 24, 2022 15:48:51 GMT -5
Casas has a 96 wRC+ despite a .071 BABIP 🤣 101 wRC+ now... officially above average!
I don't think it's crazy to hope that he, Bello, and Sale can combine for like 8 WAR next season. That improvement alone would put them right into the heart of a playoff race.
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 24, 2022 16:01:12 GMT -5
Casas has a 96 wRC+ despite a .071 BABIP 🤣 101 wRC+ now... officially above average!
I don't think it's crazy to hope that he, Bello, and Sale can combine for like 8 WAR next season. That improvement alone would put them right into the heart of a playoff race.
I am not complaining about the Sale trade because he helped win a chip and DD sent the right player in the deal. If it had been Raffy instead of Moncada there would be groaning here on a daily basis. I do have to ask though, has Sale done anything for this team since cork screwing Machado into the ground to close the 2018 WS? In other words counting on him to be healthy even when he supposedly is, but never turns to be?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 24, 2022 16:03:17 GMT -5
There's Mr. Clutch. That's the thing about Verdugo. Sort of like Bloom, he's not as great as his supporters say he is nor is he as bad as his detractors say he is. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. It’s almost as if you are describing a league average player. Yup. Probably a bit above average, but not tremendously so. Still on a sad sack team like this, he's among the least of their issues.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 24, 2022 16:06:20 GMT -5
Casas came unto this series with a .441 OPS.
He's .375 / .643 / 1.125 in this series (3/8, 6 BB, 2 HR).
His expected BABIP coming into this game was .211. Which sucks, but is still way better than .074. It's 3.7 base hits of bad karma, ignoring batted ball type and direction.
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Post by radiohix on Sept 24, 2022 16:15:49 GMT -5
The kid is a hitting psychopath lmao Extend him already Chaim!
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 24, 2022 20:27:15 GMT -5
Casas has a 96 wRC+ despite a .071 BABIP 🤣 101 wRC+ now... officially above average!
I don't think it's crazy to hope that he, Bello, and Sale can combine for like 8 WAR next season. That improvement alone would put them right into the heart of a playoff race.
That would be four each for Bello and Casas, right? Obvious (though good-natured) sarcasm, but I'm done waiting for Chris Sale to contribute during his contract. Anything he gives us in '23 or '24 is an unexpected bonus, IMO.
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Post by manfred on Sept 25, 2022 9:09:53 GMT -5
If *it* happens, just don’t be Bello. That’s all I ask.
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Post by sarasoxer on Sept 25, 2022 9:14:52 GMT -5
It’s almost as if you are describing a league average player. "Verdugo is a league average player" is exactly what his supporters say... He might be league average...but what does that say about the rest of the lineup sans Bogey and Devers??
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 25, 2022 10:58:10 GMT -5
"Verdugo is a league average player" is exactly what his supporters say... He might be league average...but what does that say about the rest of the lineup sans Bogey and Devers?? Exactly what you think it says about the rest of the lineup sans Bogey and Devers
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 25, 2022 11:11:31 GMT -5
Casas has a 96 wRC+ despite a .071 BABIP 🤣 101 wRC+ now... officially above average! I don't think it's crazy to hope that he, Bello, and Sale can combine for like 8 WAR next season. That improvement alone would put them right into the heart of a playoff race.
At this point I think it's crazy to expect any real contributions from Sale. I'm starting to suspect that Sale will constantly be injured and when not injured will not be anything near the quality of pitcher we loved to watch. I wouldnt be surprised if he got hit hard. I do agree on potential big upgrades from Casas and Bello, but I also expect struggles that young players adjusting to the league go through, but in all, I do see them as huge upgrades, but they need plenty of other upgrades and their bullpen can't suck like it did most of this year. And when talking about improvements and being back in the pennant race, don't forget that other teams won't be sitting on the sidelines. They will improve themselves, too. It's not like if you get a certain WAR upgrade, boom you're in. Other teams will be vying to do the same. Hell, the Orioles might beat that alone as they integrate young players and as Rutschman potentially takes a leap forward and that doesn't factor in the money they have to spend. The Sox have a lot of work to do this offseason. If they are to close the gap they'll mostly have to do it with players outside the system this offseason and the tricky part will be trying to do what Tampa does with their pen, find an army of surprisingly effective relievers and somehow have more on standby so that these winnable games this years pen let slip away goes the other way in 2023, and I have no idea how you quantify that, but as Bloom is aware of, he needs to fix the pen.
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 25, 2022 11:19:15 GMT -5
101 wRC+ now... officially above average! I don't think it's crazy to hope that he, Bello, and Sale can combine for like 8 WAR next season. That improvement alone would put them right into the heart of a playoff race.
At this point I think it's crazy to expect any real contributions from Sale. I'm starting to suspect that Sale will constantly be injured and when not injured will not be anything near the quality of pitcher we loved to watch. I wouldnt be surprised if he got hit hard. I do agree on potential big upgrades from Casas and Bello, but I also expect struggles that young players adjusting to the league go through, but in all, I do see them as huge upgrades, but they need plenty of other upgrades and their bullpen can't suck like it did most of this year. And when talking about improvements and being back in the pennant race, don't forget that other teams won't be sitting on the sidelines. They will improve themselves, too. It's not like if you get a certain WAR upgrade, boom you're in. Other teams will be vying to do the same. Hell, the Orioles might beat that alone as they integrate young players and as Rutschman potentially takes a leap forward and that doesn't factor in the money they have to spend. The Sox have a lot of work to do this offseason. If they are to close the gap they'll mostly have to do it with players outside the system this offseason and the tricky part will be trying to do what Tampa does with their pen, find an army of surprisingly effective relievers and somehow have more on standby so that these winnable games this years pen let slip away goes the other way in 2023, and I have no idea how you quantify that, but as Bloom is aware of, he needs to fix the pen. I can't really disagree with you about sale however I'm cautiously optimistic on him. He was showing good stuff in his limited time this year and the injuries that knocked him out for the season were fluke things with a broken pinky on a comebacker and he broke his non throwing wrist supposedly riding a bike. Those aren't any injuries that should really limit him going forward. His throwing arm should be very fresh coming into next season. On the flipside he's been injured for 3 years straight now so everything i said could easily go out the window 2 spring training starts into the year as he's definitely fragile.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 25, 2022 11:37:39 GMT -5
I'm not counting on *that* much from Sale. But I would take the over on like 60 IP and 1.5 WAR.
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 25, 2022 11:49:57 GMT -5
I'm not counting on *that* much from Sale. But I would take the over on like 60 IP and 1.5 WAR. Unless someone tells me there's some long term problem associated with the rib thing, or that his pinkie/wrist is an issue going forward, then I'm thinking of him the same as I did coming into the season - a guy that successfully came back from TJ surgery and should be more or less fine.
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