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Post by cdj on Jan 29, 2023 2:08:26 GMT -5
Didn’t deserve to win playing the 3rd the way they did
Oh well. They look tired. Much needed break soon
Hopefully Frederic is ok
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Post by GyIantosca on Jan 29, 2023 16:02:46 GMT -5
I agree too much playmaking and not enough shooting. It bite them in the azz. Looks like one more D would be nice.
This is a crazy road trip. I mean there hitting all the tough teams at once.
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Post by cdj on Jan 29, 2023 18:16:27 GMT -5
Yeah they just need the break
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 19:39:43 GMT -5
First slump of the year but hope they snap out of it next game.
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Post by tizzle on Jan 30, 2023 18:41:57 GMT -5
Bad week. Team hit their first downturn and no Horvat is off the market.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 30, 2023 20:29:29 GMT -5
Did Horvat really make as much sense as everyone was saying?
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Post by cdj on Jan 30, 2023 22:37:16 GMT -5
Not at that price he didn’t
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Post by texs31 on Jan 30, 2023 22:53:07 GMT -5
To me the larger concern was that the price only gets you Horvat for the rest of the year.
To extend him, you'd need to move more money to have the room.
So if JDB + Lysell + 1st is the comp, and you extend Pasta at 11 and Horvat at 8, you have to move another 3-5M dollar player to be able to fill out the roster.
BTW - if you don't think JDB is the comp and you're talking Fredric, the cap math next offseason is even worse.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jan 31, 2023 11:18:42 GMT -5
If anything I really want another defenseman. Because of Carlo concussions and the smaller defenseman get worn down in playoff hockey. It always happens we play a team that has a jackass on there team and they take out one or 2 of our defense. I’m exaggerating but we get my point.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 31, 2023 11:39:43 GMT -5
If anything I really want another defenseman. Because of Carlo concussions and the smaller defenseman get worn down in playoff hockey. It always happens we play a team that has a jackass on there team and they take out one or 2 of our defense. I’m exaggerating but we get my point. I'd like Luke Schenn on D and, maybe, Max Domi up front. |
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Post by GyIantosca on Jan 31, 2023 12:34:29 GMT -5
Texs31, what do you think of the kid in Arizona that’s on the market ? The defenseman
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Post by texs31 on Jan 31, 2023 12:47:37 GMT -5
Texs31, what do you think of the kid in Arizona that’s on the market ? The defenseman Very good player with term (2 more years after this) so the haul will be significant. I just don't think we'd be able to compete with other offers as I'm sure there will be teams with better prospects/picks to offer up. Also, not sure that's where we need to improve unless you're looking to move a LHD out separately. RHD to protect against a Carlo injury (Clifton could tick up to his role so a 3rd pair guy should be sufficient). I think a forward who could play anywhere from 2nd-4th lines and on the wing or up the middle would be great too. |
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Post by cdj on Jan 31, 2023 13:06:33 GMT -5
Chychrun’s injury history concerns me. He’s on a great deal though
Schenn is also my deadline target. Cheap, won’t cost a massive amount, rugged vet defenseman with cup experience. Maybe Bortuzzo in STL
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Post by tizzle on Jan 31, 2023 14:19:08 GMT -5
To me the larger concern was that the price only gets you Horvat for the rest of the year. To extend him, you'd need to move more money to have the room. So if JDB + Lysell + 1st is the comp, and you extend Pasta at 11 and Horvat at 8, you have to move another 3-5M dollar player to be able to fill out the roster. BTW - if you don't think JDB is the comp and you're talking Fredric, the cap math next offseason is even worse. The problem is, unless you're rebuilding next year or Bergeron and Krejci both come back for peanuts, you have to find that money for a C somehow anyway. You can't roll out Coyle and a couple of Haula types as your Cs and think you're contending for anything. And no, I wouldn't trade DeBrusk in that deal. Lysell is a higher ranked prospect than Raty. Their 1st will be higher, but it also has the potential to not convey this year. So for DeBrusk to be the comp, Beauvillier would have to be at least close to a comp for DeBrusk. JDB has 30 points in 36 games this year while Beauviller's career high is 39. DeBrusk's career low is 35, save the Covid year. They are both signed for 1 more year at almost the exact same money and Jake is only 1 year older. Don't see those two as a comp at all. I never really thought we would get Horvat anyway. Just discussion. |
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Post by texs31 on Jan 31, 2023 14:27:29 GMT -5
I have an example of what I'm talking about that I'll flush out in a moment but, on Lysell, not everyone is an agreement on that.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 31, 2023 15:22:35 GMT -5
If you were to add Horvat now, it would cost you JDB/Lysell/1st (that's what the consensus seems to be - if you believe that it's wrong, pretend they would throw in Schenn - either way, that asset group is what would've gone to VAN). Then you need to move out another player (Grz or Carlo?) this offseason to have the room to extend him
If you were to add Horvat (or comparable FA, though not sure there is one) this offseason, you're still probably clearing out a JDB and another core player but you still have the 1st and Lysell (who would likely fill out a spot in the Top 9 vacated by JDB).
IF you trade for a guy, he's almost certainly making less than 8M (just not that many guys making that much) so you'll still be out Lysell and the 1st, but you probably only need to get rid of 1 player not 2.
Of course, the easiest thing to do would be to bring back and PB/DK on similar structures as this year and buy yourself more time (more draftees to help in trades or fill in vacated spots, development of prospects, expiring contracts).
But there is a cost to doing it now vs this offseason and I don't think it's worth it.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Feb 1, 2023 0:09:22 GMT -5
Not at that price he didn’t in many ways he was the best fit for a team going for it. And if they could resign him, help bridge the gap should both Bergeron and Krejci retire after this season. I understand the limited amount we have under the salary cap would have made a trade difficult but if we are going for it, and all in this season which I have to believe is the case with both players previously mentioned as serious candidates to retire if we don't win the cup and even more so if we do win the cup. We'd lose two top centers in one off season, so there would be a glaring hole to fill. They could allways agree to an extension when the timing was right. Two guys that remain on the radar and are easier fits regarding the cap are Ivan Barbarshev of the Blues who provides size and versatility at the LW/C positions and can help with scoring depth to and he helped eliminate the B's with 2 goals and 1 assist in the controversial game 7 the last Stanley Cup the B's played in, another one is Max Domi of the Blackhawks for all the same basic reasons as Ivan, and he too has playoff experience. These two players should not cost as much Horvat did either. |
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Post by texs31 on Feb 1, 2023 7:26:57 GMT -5
Was talking to a buddy of mine and, I have to admit, there is a big caveat to what I've opined above. If they know they can't keep going as is and are planning on trading away much of this team, then maybe he'd help make the turnaround quicker.
If the hope is to keep this going, then I don't think a trade like that made sense.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 1, 2023 7:28:22 GMT -5
Texs31, what do you think of the kid in Arizona that’s on the market ? The defenseman So Friedman has been saying B's have been asking about 2 LHD, Chychrun and Gavrikov. He's pretty tied in so maybe there is something to it. Still feel as though Boston will fall short of matching the offers that are likely to be out there. |
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Post by tizzle on Feb 1, 2023 20:50:04 GMT -5
Thanks for that total BS penalty call, refs. We'll take our SH Goal. Great effort by Frederic.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Feb 1, 2023 22:53:01 GMT -5
Great response by the team. A very well-played game by the entire team, Zacha continues to sizzle along with his shots with 2 more tonight. Now we can go into the break confident the previous 3 games were just a forgotten moment when all is said and done.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 1:04:09 GMT -5
I agree Zacha was a steal in that trade he is playing really good last 30 game ever since he signed his new contract. He is playing like the 6 pick overall now. I can see him as Krejci replacement next year scoring 30 goals and 70 points.
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Post by cdj on Feb 2, 2023 11:03:18 GMT -5
Zacha playing like a $6 mill player since his extension
Great win. Would prefer Greer to not drop them with good fighters lol
Lauko looked good
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Feb 14, 2023 23:41:10 GMT -5
Yet another great win! Hall, Zacha and Pasta
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Post by tizzle on Feb 15, 2023 0:13:04 GMT -5
Yeah, not a fan of the officiating int hat game, but B's overcome. Great W.
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