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Post by ianrs on Feb 8, 2023 22:53:57 GMT -5
Amazing, complete team win. I hope Jaylen is okay. Glad to see Tatum not force it when he clearly didn't have anything.
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Post by cdj on Feb 8, 2023 23:07:17 GMT -5
Awesome win
Love ruining the sixers franchise
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Feb 8, 2023 23:13:49 GMT -5
Unbelievable win missing FOUR starters (well after Jaylen left the game, but he sucked before he did so lol). Brogdon and White BALLED, I love these guys. Stevens has built quite a remarkable team. Don't forget Danny built the foundation. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 8, 2023 23:16:32 GMT -5
Don't forget Danny built the foundation. I talked about 2 guys that Stevens traded for. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 8, 2023 23:44:07 GMT -5
Jaylen with a face fracture...will be out for a few
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Post by jmei on Feb 9, 2023 6:22:12 GMT -5
KD to the Suns—wow.
ADD: initial take: there’s some risk for Phoenix since Durant and Paul are older and the picks are all unprotected. But having Booker and Ayton helps mitigate that and they massively upgraded on the court. KD indicating that he wanted to go to the Suns was important, since I think the Nets would have otherwise been able to get more present talent and/or just more picks from teams like Memphis or New Orleans.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 9, 2023 7:10:52 GMT -5
KD to the Suns—wow. ADD: initial take: there’s some risk for Phoenix since Durant and Paul are older and the picks are all unprotected. But having Booker and Ayton helps mitigate that and they massively upgraded on the court. KD indicating that he wanted to go to the Suns was important, since I think the Nets would have otherwise been able to get more present talent and/or just more picks from teams like Memphis or New Orleans. Hard to get more talent from a team trying to win - the Suns finally giving up Bridges was likely the difference. Also, they got 4 first round picks plus another swap; you’re not getting more picks than that in a deal. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 9, 2023 7:12:46 GMT -5
The nets now get to rebuild without any of their own first round picks, which in a weird way helps them from tanking.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 9, 2023 7:30:35 GMT -5
Poelti traded to the Raptors… strange trade for them - they really wanted his bird rights to resign him…
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Post by mobaz on Feb 9, 2023 8:15:51 GMT -5
Road to a Championship is getting harder. The Lakers made a great trade, and could become real contenders in short order if the new pieces fit better than the old. The Suns likely move to the top of the West and Durant/Booker is in contention for best duo. Even the Knicks will be a harder matchup with Hart as a do-it-all grit and grinder.
With Brown out for a bit, Brodgon and Tatum will be leaned on harder at a time when it'd be better to be reducing their minutes. At least Grant showed some life last night after one of the lamest contract push seasons I can remember. I think you turn PP and something into an 8th or 9th man at wing or wing/big and seek a buyout for guard depth. Can't imagine Brad comes out of the day empty handed, as standing in place is falling behind right now. I'd be hesitant to send out another 1st rounder but if PP plus a 1st gets someone with similar impact to White last year or Brodgon this, I'd consider it.
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Post by mobaz on Feb 9, 2023 8:21:28 GMT -5
Poelti traded to the Raptors… strange trade for them - they really wanted his bird rights to resign him… I think they're really planning to clear out OG (seems like a good selling point) and FVF at the deadline and maybe prepping to send out Siakam between now and start of next season. I wouldn't trade Siakam, but seems like there's lots of smoke there. Achuiwa has been doing well in extended run. Still, their window is all messed up and nothing has been working while they could be peaking as an ECF contender. |
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Post by wcp3 on Feb 9, 2023 8:23:55 GMT -5
Road to a Championship is getting harder. The Lakers made a great trade, and could become real contenders in short order if the new pieces fit better than the old. The Suns likely move to the top of the West and Durant/Booker is in contention for best duo. Even the Knicks will be a harder matchup with Hart as a do-it-all grit and grinder. With Brown out for a bit, Brodgon and Tatum will be leaned on harder at a time when it'd be better to be reducing their minutes. At least Grant showed some life last night after one of the lamest contract push seasons I can remember. I think you turn PP and something into an 8th or 9th man at wing or wing/big and seek a buyout for guard depth. Can't imagine Brad comes out of the day empty handed, as standing in place is falling behind right now. I'd be hesitant to send out another 1st rounder but if PP plus a 1st gets someone with similar impact to White last year or Brodgon this, I'd consider it. I like the Lakers trade, but nah - that team still isn’t close to a contender. They could make a nice run in the postseason, but Russell just doesn’t move the needle that much. Phoenix has the talent to win it all IF they are all healthy and clicking when the playoffs roll around. That’s a scary team, but I’m glad the Nets sent KD out west. |
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Post by cdj on Feb 9, 2023 8:55:06 GMT -5
Wouldn’t mind Royce O’Neale if BK is willing to move him
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 9, 2023 9:49:53 GMT -5
How do the Lakers trade Westbrook, a first and some 2nds then get 3 starting level players? If they can make the playoffs and that's still a big if, I wouldn't want to face that team in the first round. They added everything they needed, it's unbelievable. Never seen a team with so many holes, trade maybe the worst one year contract in Basketball and get so much value.
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Post by nomar on Feb 9, 2023 9:50:49 GMT -5
Big price tag for the Suns to pay. They got older and I’m not sure I’d have them over Denver still.
Good move for the Nets IMO. Bridges, Claxton, Thomas, Johnson gives you some young talent with potential, you have picks again, and Simmons gets to play in a low pressure environment now to see if he can regain his status a bit.
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Post by nomar on Feb 9, 2023 9:51:42 GMT -5
How do the Lakers trade Westbrook, a first and some 2nds then get 3 starting level players? If they can make the playoffs and that's still a big if, I wouldn't want to face that team in the first round. They added everything they needed, it's unbelievable. Never seen a team with so many holes, trade maybe the worst one year contract in Basketball and get so much value. It feels like them and the Yankees get spoon fed lopsided deals (which means it’s probably in my biased head) |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 9, 2023 10:01:59 GMT -5
How do the Lakers trade Westbrook, a first and some 2nds then get 3 starting level players? If they can make the playoffs and that's still a big if, I wouldn't want to face that team in the first round. They added everything they needed, it's unbelievable. Never seen a team with so many holes, trade maybe the worst one year contract in Basketball and get so much value. It feels like them and the Yankees get spoon fed lopsided deals (which means it’s probably in my biased head) I give the Lakers an A+++++ and the Suns a C-. Feels like Danny helping Pistons get Wallace type crap. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 9, 2023 10:28:24 GMT -5
How do the Lakers trade Westbrook, a first and some 2nds then get 3 starting level players? If they can make the playoffs and that's still a big if, I wouldn't want to face that team in the first round. They added everything they needed, it's unbelievable. Never seen a team with so many holes, trade maybe the worst one year contract in Basketball and get so much value. I'm with you here bro. The Lakers are the most annoying franchise in the league, it truly feels they can get value out of absolutely nothing. 3 starters for a first round pick? There's some light protections on that pick as well, so even if they SUCK the Jazz won't get like a top 3 pick. And the 3 guys they traded for are really young as well. How the sh*t does that happen? As for Durant and the Suns, I still take the Nuggets over them because Ayton is going to get abused by Jokic. |
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Post by texs31 on Feb 9, 2023 10:44:22 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 9, 2023 10:53:38 GMT -5
It feels like them and the Yankees get spoon fed lopsided deals (which means it’s probably in my biased head) I give the Lakers an A+++++ and the Suns a C-. Feels like Danny helping Pistons get Wallace type crap. Ainge really wanted that 2027 unprotected pick. The Lakers played it right - no point in trading that pick for anything short of a star or a lot of role players. Utah had a chance to get a key asset while helping their draft position this year and clearing money off the books beyond this year. None of those guys on their own were likely getting a first and if they did it was a lower first. Getting the unprotected Laker pick in 2027 is a way better play. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 9, 2023 11:35:06 GMT -5
I give the Lakers an A+++++ and the Suns a C-. Feels like Danny helping Pistons get Wallace type crap. Ainge really wanted that 2027 unprotected pick. The Lakers played it right - no point in trading that pick for anything short of a star or a lot of role players. Utah had a chance to get a key asset while helping their draft position this year and clearing money off the books beyond this year. None of those guys on their own were likely getting a first and if they did it was a lower first. Getting the unprotected Laker pick in 2027 is a way better play. I don't blame Danny, even if all 3 were worth 3 late firsts I'd still rather that 2027 pick. He needs to gut the team and tank so his own picks are better. I'm blaming Minnesota and the rest of the league. Vanderbilt might be one of the best value players in the league given his contract and production. Half the league should have been all over him offer picks and young players. That being said it's still like the Wallace trade, good for Danny yet rest of league was like WTF. Lakers not making that trade without Vanderbilt? If I was a Jazz fan that would be my one complaint, why include him when the Lakers as desperate as they are most likely take Russell and Beasley all day long. Not often when it feels Danny left meat on the bone in a trade. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 9, 2023 11:38:53 GMT -5
Good, I'm actually happy about that. Go trade Gallinari and Jackson for Bamba. I'll take Pritchard and 2 years of Bambo over a few months of Poeltl. Yet I'm also happy Stevens isn't throwing around firsts for a pure rental who's role would be small without an injury. |
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Post by mobaz on Feb 9, 2023 11:54:17 GMT -5
Muscala coming over for 2 2nds and Justin Jackson. It's something at least! We don't have an infinite number of 2nds. But Patriot League Pride!
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Post by mobaz on Feb 9, 2023 12:06:51 GMT -5
Muscala coming over for 2 2nds and Justin Jackson. It's something at least! We don't have an infinite number of 2nds. But Patriot League Pride! Bucks traded five (5!) seconds for Jae Crowder... Maybe there are infinite number of 2nds. |
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Post by cdj on Feb 9, 2023 12:17:28 GMT -5
You can usually buy a 2nd if you want one so bad
Muscala will definitely space the floor for them, that’s for sure
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