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Post by wcp3 on Mar 5, 2023 22:40:01 GMT -5
Why is Grant playing and Derrick White isn’t? Because Mazzulla is lost with his rotations. He’s over complicated them all season, and now none of the bench players have a clue what their role is. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 5, 2023 22:41:59 GMT -5
Where is the pace in the Celtics game? So much time wasted dragging the ball up the court so often. Tatum proved he can drive and score when he wants. But he doesn't seem to want to enough.
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Post by ianrs on Mar 5, 2023 22:44:04 GMT -5
Embarrassing loss from a lost team and lost coach. Spent most of both OT settling for iso pullups.
And I'm sorry but when Brogdon and Timelord are out its INEXCUSABLE that White is getting less than 35 minutes a game, nevermind in a 2 OT game.
No drive and getting out muscled and outhustled by the likes of Josh Hart and Quentin Grimes. Embarrassing.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 5, 2023 22:44:28 GMT -5
Why didn't Tatum just drive to the basket? Another richly deserved loss - once they were up, they let up. Through the rest of the game, they couldn't get over the hump. This team has some issues that need cleaning up.
Big gap right now between the Bruins, who always play hard every game, and the Celtics, who play hard when they want to and blow big leads.
538 odds - Bruins are 35% chance to win it all - Celtics down to 15% with Denver and the Bucks ahead of them.
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Post by philarhody on Mar 5, 2023 22:48:43 GMT -5
Two major issues with this team.
1. Lack of focus/killer instinct/consistency that we’ve talked about for 4 years now.
2. Clueless offense that continues to be run THROUGH Jayson and Jaylen and not FOR Jayson and Jaylen. Those guys are continually put in positions where they are dribbling the shit out of the ball and being asked to play-make, which has nothing to do with their strengths.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 5, 2023 22:50:54 GMT -5
NESN has it right in the game post they just put up.
".It’s rather strange, but the Celtics are having major issues protecting double-digit leads.
After blowing a 28-point advantage to the Brooklyn Nets, Boston seemed well positioned to get back into the win column against the Knicks. The Celtics took a 14-point lead with 6:27 left after a Grant Williams 3-pointer.
But then the Celtics, as they have become prone to doing, took their foot off the gas pedal and the Knicks came storming back. And New York didn’t even have its best player in Jalen Brunson, who was out with a foot injury.
Boston mounted a furious rally on its own, but that’s a very dangerous game to play as they found out. The Celtics forced overtime, but it really shouldn’t have got to that point. They couldn’t take care of business in regulation when they had the chance and it cost them."
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 5, 2023 22:56:56 GMT -5
When this team gets leads, they stop playing with any pace. And when they stop playing with pace, the ball stops moving and they settle for isos or contested 3s.
Scal talked about this a lot tonight, and he was spot on. Pushing the ball doesn’t just refer to fast breaks - it’s about catching the defense off guard just enough where they’re a half-step behind in their rotations the entire possession. More often than not, that tends to result in better ball movement and cleaner shots.
The Celts do that more consistently when White is in the game, and not coincidentally, they end up with better shots as a result.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 5, 2023 23:08:19 GMT -5
last thought before I head to bed - where is the bench? DNP for Griffin, Kornet and Pritchard - 20 and 12 ineffective minutes from Hauser and Muscala, Grant has 9 points in 44 minutes, picked up 5 fouls, 1 for 5 in threes.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 5, 2023 23:09:15 GMT -5
This game was the one that got me worried for their execution down the stretch. They need to get better options than "heavily contested hail mary" or they're getting bounced in the playoffs.
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Post by ianrs on Mar 5, 2023 23:15:21 GMT -5
Aside from all the issues everyone mentioned;
We have 7 of the next 8 games on the road including at Cleveland tomorrow, and we're probably going to get BODIED by them without Timelord, Horford, and Brogdon after 2OT on a back to back. March is not looking good.
What made us great last year was playmaking through Smart and Timelord. Have seen very little and WAY too much Tatum and Brown hero ball.
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Post by cdj on Mar 6, 2023 0:42:29 GMT -5
They beat the defending champs (who have the best player in the league) on the road in a game 7, I think people pick and choose what they want to count as “adversity” to make this argument. Very sports radio. Can you explain what you mean? Every team has faced adversity. I’m saying the Celtics respond poorly to it. It’s pretty straight forward- I’m saying people cherry pick things to push a narrative and completely dismiss anything that doesn’t fit that narrative |
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Post by cdj on Mar 6, 2023 10:18:17 GMT -5
Grant Williams botching the last play is peak Grant. He should not be on the court when trying to score on a final possession. That price tag is coming doooooown
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 6, 2023 11:30:03 GMT -5
Grant Williams botching the last play is peak Grant. He should not be on the court when trying to score on a final possession. That price tag is coming doooooown His regression this year has made zero sense to me. I can understand the offensive issues if his confidence is down, but he’s declined as a defender back to where he can’t stay in front of anyone without fouling. Brogdon and White are obviously their key bench pieces, but they’ll need Grant in certain matchups if they play Philly or Milwaukee. |
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Post by scottysmalls on Mar 6, 2023 11:53:38 GMT -5
Not going to overreact too much, but my number one worry right now is Mazzula decision making. The team just looks much better when White is out there, I don't understand how you play Grant over him in crunch time right now (even though the net rating with Williams instead of White was better). I also don't know that he has the presence to push them back on the right path when they get off of it.
Also I just saw a stat showing Tatum is 3-35 for his career on OT 3 pointers which is pretty wild.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 6, 2023 13:52:35 GMT -5
With Robert Williams out and no one that can come close to what he does. Yeah I go back to the starting lineup to start the year, insert White back into the starting lineup.
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Post by cdj on Mar 6, 2023 16:54:32 GMT -5
Grant Williams botching the last play is peak Grant. He should not be on the court when trying to score on a final possession. That price tag is coming doooooown His regression this year has made zero sense to me. I can understand the offensive issues if his confidence is down, but he’s declined as a defender back to where he can’t stay in front of anyone without fouling. Brogdon and White are obviously their key bench pieces, but they’ll need Grant in certain matchups if they play Philly or Milwaukee. He kept getting switched onto Quickley and the entire building knows he wants to go right and he still couldn’t take that option away. No excuse for him to be on the court over White in crunch time. |
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Post by cdj on Mar 6, 2023 18:00:37 GMT -5
He’s learned!
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 6, 2023 18:13:49 GMT -5
Let’s hope so! Doris Burke spent a lot of time talking to Mazzulla and raved about how self-criticism and introspective he is. Young coaches can get better just like young players, and he seems to have the willingness to improve. We’ll see if he follows through with it, but this is a good sign. |
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Post by cdj on Mar 6, 2023 20:12:11 GMT -5
Liking the ball movement in the first half
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Post by ianrs on Mar 6, 2023 20:23:07 GMT -5
Mazzulla called a timeout after a 4-0 Cavs run to start the 3rd!
Glad to see that.
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 6, 2023 21:28:47 GMT -5
NBA refs should not be reviewing their own calls. They’re clearly not capable of being objective when they do.
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Post by ianrs on Mar 6, 2023 21:30:15 GMT -5
Grant Williams would miss both of those after the bozo foul to gift the Cavs the tie. Lmfao.
Joke.
Dudes not a rotation NBA player right now.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 6, 2023 21:30:26 GMT -5
I've got nothing.
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Post by ianrs on Mar 6, 2023 21:44:01 GMT -5
Bozo team right now. EXTREMELY reminiscent of the first half of last season where we couldn't get out of our own way. Embarrassing.
Its obvious we lost real coaching chops in Ime and Hardy as well.
Pretty disgusted honestly. Out muscled and outhustled by another scrub, Lamar Stevens. Joke.
Oh and as a bonus, Smart back to hero ball idiocy. Great.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 6, 2023 21:48:29 GMT -5
Smart is -8, 4 of 17. He is not the one to be taking Tatum's shots. Grant's missed FTs. overall, team missed 7.
Mostly, another loss after a double digit lead. Outscored 40-22 in the 4th and OT.
Lastly - 3 overtime losses to the Cavs.
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