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Post by Guidas on Oct 24, 2022 11:08:02 GMT -5
Nothing better to start a Monday morning than a full bowl of Yankee fan angst.
I wonder if they've fired Hal Steinbrenner yet?
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Oct 24, 2022 11:24:43 GMT -5
First team in MLB history to lose 5 straight LCS appearances ... and haven't won a best-of-7 series in 13 years.
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Post by costpet on Oct 24, 2022 11:45:07 GMT -5
Setting records for losing.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Oct 24, 2022 12:28:39 GMT -5
Bright notes on the World Series front is that Vaz is going back again and Trey Mancini will be getting his first taste of the big show after wallowing around with the Baltimore Orioles for all their inept years. Good for him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 14:35:24 GMT -5
Per Spotrac (and with some estimates from MLBTradeRumors Arb estimates list), I'm guessing Yankees have like ~180-190 mil in payroll tied up already for next year? That is... before factoring the potential cost of resigning Judge, Rizzo (or another 1B), and a LF and whatever else they might need. They also would likely be entering their second year over the CBT next year if they do that... under an owner that supported lowering the luxury tax level. Yankee fans' best & most realistic course of action right now might be to use the occult to raise George Steinbrenner from the depths of Hell, in the hope that he fires Boone/Cashman and spends to infinity
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Post by ematz1423 on Oct 24, 2022 14:56:32 GMT -5
Per Spotrac (and with some estimates from MLBTradeRumors Arb estimates list), I'm guessing Yankees have like ~180-190 mil in payroll tied up already for next year? That is... before factoring the potential cost of resigning Judge, Rizzo (or another 1B), and a LF and whatever else they might need. They also would likely be entering their second year over the CBT next year if they do that... under an owner that supported lowering the luxury tax level. Yankee fans' best & most realistic course of action right now might be to use the occult to raise George Steinbrenner from the depths of Hell, in the hope that he fires Boone/Cashman and spends to infinity I've been thinking something similar on these lines. They don't have much payroll flexibility and they'd basically be left with none should they pony up for Judge (which I think they do). It kind of seems to me the Yankees have two avenues, re-sign Judge and basically run back the same team as this year minus their impending FAs. Or take the Judge money and try and spread that around to other positions to deepen their roster. Now they do have some potential studs coming up from the minors especially at SS which is a big need but as know prospects are never a sure thing. Unless some team absolutely bails them out and takes on a guy like Stanton or LeMehiu it's hard to see the Yankees putting out a better team than they did this year. I'll also add the probable regression to the mean for Judge. He put up an all time great season, maybe he'll do it again but if I was a betting man I'd say he puts up something closer to a 7 WAR season than the 11 he put up this year. Obviously still one of the best players in baseball but I don't think it's a great bet to say he'll be the MVP again. I'll be keeping my eye on the Yanks this offseason as I'm sure everyone else will but I will be most interested when it comes to them to see if the current Steinbrenner will open up his checkbook like his father used to or if he doesn't want to add to the payroll in any meaningful way and is content to just be a playoff caliber team that is a tier below world series caliber.
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Post by radiohix on Oct 24, 2022 15:31:56 GMT -5
Per Spotrac (and with some estimates from MLBTradeRumors Arb estimates list), I'm guessing Yankees have like ~180-190 mil in payroll tied up already for next year? That is... before factoring the potential cost of resigning Judge, Rizzo (or another 1B), and a LF and whatever else they might need. They also would likely be entering their second year over the CBT next year if they do that... under an owner that supported lowering the luxury tax level. Yankee fans' best & most realistic course of action right now might be to use the occult to raise George Steinbrenner from the depths of Hell, in the hope that he fires Boone/Cashman and spends to infinity They’ve also dealt all their farm system depth in the last two years in pursuit of that ring 😂 I really hope they sign Judge to a monster 10 years contract tbh
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Post by iakovos11 on Oct 24, 2022 16:21:17 GMT -5
Not a sports writer, but . . . . . this is hilarious
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 24, 2022 19:48:34 GMT -5
Not a sports writer, but . . . . . this is hilarious No thank you.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Oct 25, 2022 15:28:27 GMT -5
Remember this when it’s March again and the Yankees are “the best team in the league” once again. Not if they lose Aaron Judge. The media does not care! They will still call MFY the best in the AL, and the MFY fans (and some on this site) will still believe it.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 25, 2022 18:05:33 GMT -5
Not if they lose Aaron Judge. The media does not care! They will still call MFY the best in the AL, and the MFY fans (and some on this site) will still believe it. Houston is the best in the AL, but for the first half it was the Yankees. You felt the need to call me out for thinking they could sustain it for the entire year. I certainly felt it was possibility, that it could simply just be their year finally, and I don't apologize for thinking that way. I didnt think they'd keep a 120 win pace but I didnt think 110 was out of the question. Put your homerism aside for a minute if you can. The 2018 Red Sox were obviously playing over their head in 2018, and if you look at that team and think 108 wins is what they should have gotten, I dont know what to tell you, and I kept figuring it had to end at some point in 2018...and it didn't. It was just their year where everything worked out. But in 2019 they rolled out virtually the same team and had a drastically different result. As a fan I'm cool with that because that 2018 flag flies forever, but playing above their talent caught up to them finally. They were better than an 84 win team on paper, but it was just the law of averages swinging the other way. Figured it was probably the same thing for the Yankees in 2022. You know they're going to win 90 - 100 games most years because the track record shows that they do, so you figure sooner or later they'll get a year where everything locks in. Figured it was this year. Gladly that's not the case. They were mediocre in the 2nd half, brutal in July, and they were horrible against Houston. Figured they had a chance but they killed themselves defensively and they became an extremely top heavy offense and their pen became Red Sox like at times. As far as next year goes, if they lose Judge, they're in big trouble as they can't replace him, but even if they keep him they'll need to sign a Correa or a Turner, too, and I dont know that they'd spend THAT kind of money. In the AL East for 2023 at this point, Toronto needs to assert themselves against others the way they do against the Red Sox. They have the best overall talent in the division and should finish 1st with that talent although it could be a matter of a year or two before Baltimore is the team that becomes the class of the division.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 25, 2022 22:39:26 GMT -5
This is a great post...
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Post by xdmo on Oct 25, 2022 23:18:41 GMT -5
Great news! Keep the mediocrity going lol.
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Post by xdmo on Oct 26, 2022 15:06:40 GMT -5
The hits just keep on coming for the Yankees organization. Lol at least their fans are getting exposed for frauds finally.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 26, 2022 15:48:55 GMT -5
Booing Judge was really a spectacular display. Yankees fans' sense of entitlement driving away the best player they've produced in decades would really be the cherry on top of their misery sundae. I also enjoy the subtext here that no one on the team likes Donaldson.
Boone seems like kind of a subpar manager, but I do find the criticisms of Cashman pretty baffling. Much to my irritation, I think he's one of the best GMs in the game.
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 26, 2022 16:01:45 GMT -5
The hits just keep on coming for the Yankees organization. Lol at least their fans are getting exposed for frauds finally. Their fans also love pelting opposing outfielders with beer cans (Alex Verdugo and Steven Kwan). Also, never forget the Game 6 2004 ALCS A-Rod shopping bag incident where they threw a bunch of crap on the field. whenever you feel like you might not hate the MFY, just look at their fans lol
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Post by foreverred9 on Oct 26, 2022 18:41:10 GMT -5
To be fair, we're not exactly much different of a fan base. There's plenty of demons in our closet, and we can't say that we haven't thrown a bunch of crap on the field: www.espn.com/mlb/playoffs99/news/1999/1017/120217.htmlMy favorite part as a read the article is how high-and-mighty George and Torre sound, only for their fans to do the same thing 5 years later.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 26, 2022 19:44:41 GMT -5
To be fair, we're not exactly much different of a fan base. There's plenty of demons in our closet, and we can't say that we haven't thrown a bunch of crap on the field: www.espn.com/mlb/playoffs99/news/1999/1017/120217.htmlMy favorite part as a read the article is how high-and-mighty George and Torre sound, only for their fans to do the same thing 5 years later. Yeah but...Red Sox fans went ballistic, but they were right in 1999 that the umps screwed them. Yankees fans went bananas when an umpire (Joe West) changed an initial wrong call to the correct call. So unlike Yankees fans Red Sox fans were justified. Lol Kidding aside, the Red Sox fans booed Ted William's and Carl Yastrzemski. They were also pretty rough on Bob Stanley from what I can remember. Winning World Championships kind of mellowed Sox fans toward their own players. The monkey on the Yankees back is getting increasingly bigger and the patience of Yankees fans are growing thin and it's showing toward their own players.
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