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Post by remmartin34 on Aug 10, 2023 12:46:16 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Aug 10, 2023 12:49:38 GMT -5
I wonder if Binelas has figured something out? The July numbers especially look legit, with just a 23% K rate. (But he's been terrible the last two weeks with irregular playing time; is he dinged up?) |
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Post by bojacksoxfan on Aug 10, 2023 12:51:07 GMT -5
BA is not impressed by Bradley Blalock. They have him #24 in their updated Brewers Top 30 with a very pedestrian grade of 40/High.
That wouldn’t rate in the Sox Top 30 and suggests he was pretty unlikely to have been considered for the 40 man this winter. I don’t know much about the Brewers roster situation, but that grade makes him iffy at best to make their weaker 40 man.
As is so often the case, the angst about losing a fringy prospect in the rule 5 draft was likely misplaced with respect to Blalock.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 10, 2023 13:39:41 GMT -5
I presume you're referring to BA and not the Chad Jennings article linked in your post? I don't think Alex does the midyear updates, fwiw. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 10, 2023 13:43:24 GMT -5
I presume you're referring to BA and not the Chad Jennings article linked in your post? I don't think Alex does the midyear updates, fwiw. Yes, BA. I'd be surprised if Alex just did a once a year thing. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 10, 2023 13:46:05 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what MLB has to say. I wouldn't have thought this a year ago but MLB seems to be more in tune (more current) with the Red Sox organization than BA.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Aug 10, 2023 14:14:42 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what MLB has to say. I wouldn't have thought this a year ago but MLB seems to be more in tune (more current) with the Red Sox organization than BA. Eh, they’re clearly low on Rafaela, but otherwise BA’s list looks pretty much fine? Meanwhile, when Callis last showed up on the SP pod a few weeks ago he seemed unfairly down on the system as a whole. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 10, 2023 14:23:59 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what MLB has to say. I wouldn't have thought this a year ago but MLB seems to be more in tune (more current) with the Red Sox organization than BA. Eh, they’re clearly low on Rafaela, but otherwise BA’s list looks pretty much fine? Meanwhile, when Callis last showed up on the SP pod a few weeks ago he seemed unfairly down on the system as a whole. Yeah I'm not super sure what that original statement is based on outside of the dude's obsession with Rafaela. |
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 10, 2023 14:49:12 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Rafaela's Double-A OPS did the exact same thing until he rebounded in June this year:
June '22: .921
July '22: .868
August '22: .751
Sept '22: .712
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April '23: .745
May '23: .635
June '23: .923
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Post by remmartin34 on Aug 10, 2023 14:53:19 GMT -5
Which dude's obsession with Rafaela?
Obviously I'm biased, but I have felt for years that a majority of prospect ranking lists undervalue Red Sox prospects, in the aggregate. FanGraphs obviously has a methodology that is somewhat more favorable to the Red Sox system, and thus has them ranked #3. But there are plenty of "experts" out there that still rank the Red Sox system somewhere between 15th-20th in the league, which is just crazy to me
And BA not having Rafaela at least as a fringe top-100 prospect (i.e. #92) at this stage, after what he's done over the course of a two month stretch now between his last couple weeks in Portland, and a 33 game sample in Worcester... You can throw as many chase rate metrics at me as you want, there's no way he shouldn't be on that list ahead of some of the names I see on there.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 10, 2023 15:35:52 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Aug 10, 2023 15:45:41 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what MLB has to say. I wouldn't have thought this a year ago but MLB seems to be more in tune (more current) with the Red Sox organization than BA. Eh, they’re clearly low on Rafaela, but otherwise BA’s list looks pretty much fine? Meanwhile, when Callis last showed up on the SP pod a few weeks ago he seemed unfairly down on the system as a whole. Why is that unfair? He and Law are not believers. Just their opinion (until they're proven wrong, or right, when guys get to MLB). |
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Post by remmartin34 on Aug 10, 2023 15:54:19 GMT -5
Eh, they’re clearly low on Rafaela, but otherwise BA’s list looks pretty much fine? Meanwhile, when Callis last showed up on the SP pod a few weeks ago he seemed unfairly down on the system as a whole. Why is that unfair? He and Law are not believers. Just their opinion (until they're proven wrong, or right, when guys get to MLB). Law ranked him 48th out of his top 60 prospects. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 10, 2023 15:58:02 GMT -5
Eh, they’re clearly low on Rafaela, but otherwise BA’s list looks pretty much fine? Meanwhile, when Callis last showed up on the SP pod a few weeks ago he seemed unfairly down on the system as a whole. Why is that unfair? He and Law are not believers. Just their opinion (until they're proven wrong, or right, when guys get to MLB). I think part of it was because it was tacked onto the end of the podcast and so they didn’t get a chance to really dive into it as much but it felt to me like Callis cited Mata and someone else (Paulino?) having struggles as a reason the system was down, without much else in the way of explanation. Now those guys have certainly seen their stocks fall this year but I also think the ascension of guys like Anthony and Perales offset that while the uptick in interesting low minors arms and general progression across the system have the system on an upward trajectory. I certainly respect Callis’ opinion on these things I just don’t think it was a very well fleshed out case, which it’s hard to expect it to be in that context. |
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Post by Guidas on Aug 10, 2023 16:16:00 GMT -5
Why is that unfair? He and Law are not believers. Just their opinion (until they're proven wrong, or right, when guys get to MLB). Law ranked him 48th out of his top 60 prospects. Oh, I thought you meant on the system in general. I think Law/The Athletic has them at 20th in the league. Couldn't remember where Callis personally had them. Apologies. |
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Post by evanstonredsox on Aug 10, 2023 16:37:15 GMT -5
Kinda funny that the Yankees have a bottom 5 farm according to fangraphs and 7 top 100 on BA
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Post by Guidas on Aug 10, 2023 17:06:08 GMT -5
Kinda funny that the Yankees have a bottom 5 farm according to fangraphs and 7 top 100 on BA Trust the science! |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 10, 2023 20:12:31 GMT -5
Updated MLB Pipeline list: 1. Mayer 2. Anthony 3. Rafaela 4. Teel 5. Bleis 6. Yorke 7. Romero 8. Zanetello 9. Gonzalez 10. Perales 11. Bonaci 12. Jordan 13. Cespedes 14. Anderson 15. Hickey 16. Bastardo 17. Abreu 18. Drohan 19. Hamilton 20. Meidroth 21. Paulino 22. Monegro 23. Mata 24. Walter 25. Johanfran Garcia 26. Brannon 27. Rogers 28. Franklin Arias 29. Cutter Coffey 30. Castro www.mlb.com/prospects/redsox/ |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 10, 2023 20:13:38 GMT -5
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Post by jimoh on Aug 10, 2023 20:19:24 GMT -5
17-YO DSL SS Franklin Arias at 28 is interesting.
0.355 0.427 0.455 0.882
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 10, 2023 20:24:14 GMT -5
17-YO DSL SS Franklin Arias at 28 is interesting. 0.355 0.427 0.455 0.882 As we always say, the last few spots on a list can sometimes go to guys who might not be there if the list were longer. We have Arias at 45. Second highest bonus and having a good year. I get wanting to have him on there somewhere ahead of, say, a AA reliever. |
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Post by jimoh on Aug 10, 2023 20:32:01 GMT -5
17-YO DSL SS Franklin Arias at 28 is interesting. 0.355 0.427 0.455 0.882 As we always say, the last few spots on a list can sometimes go to guys who might not be there if the list were longer. We have Arias at 45. Second highest bonus and having a good year. I get wanting to have him on there somewhere ahead of, say, a AA reliever. thanks I remember times when y’all have said that Here is what The Athletic said Romero said when they signed him (I have not quoted the whole $ write up ) Romero: “He is uber-athletic and really smooth defensively. He’s going to have a plus arm and has already put on a lot of good weight since we’ve started seeing him. He’s a five-tool upside player. He’s one of the best defenders in the class and he’s got offensive upside with surprising pop for his size […]” theathletic.com/4105016/2023/01/19/red-sox-international-free-agents/ |
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Post by pappyman99 on Aug 10, 2023 20:37:50 GMT -5
Not to enflame here but Jordan’s ranking on mlb at 12 makes way more sense to me than his ranking on here
I think they did a good job with our top 20
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Post by fenwaydouble on Aug 10, 2023 20:49:36 GMT -5
Red flags or no, I really don’t think leaving Rafaela off a top 100 list is justifiable at this point. The guy is a 70+ defender at a premium position with a 1.000 OPS in AAA. The floor alone has to put him on the back end of the list.
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Aug 10, 2023 21:17:50 GMT -5
As we always say, the last few spots on a list can sometimes go to guys who might not be there if the list were longer. We have Arias at 45. Second highest bonus and having a good year. I get wanting to have him on there somewhere ahead of, say, a AA reliever. thanks I remember times when y’all have said that Here is what The Athletic said Romero said when they signed him (I have not quoted the whole $ write up ) Romero: “He is uber-athletic and really smooth defensively. He’s going to have a plus arm and has already put on a lot of good weight since we’ve started seeing him. He’s a five-tool upside player. He’s one of the best defenders in the class and he’s got offensive upside with surprising pop for his size […]” theathletic.com/4105016/2023/01/19/red-sox-international-free-agents/"Surprising pop for his size" should be the new motto for this site |
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