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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 16, 2023 10:14:11 GMT -5
Jay Scrubb gets a 2-way deal Scrubb is 'seasoned'. He surely exhibited offensive capacity. He has good quickness, can drive to the hoop and has range while exhibiting a smooth stroke. I'm no judge of course, but I wondered if, being a lefty, he could effectively go to his right. I can see him being a terror in the G league and hopefully a help to us. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 16, 2023 11:23:31 GMT -5
www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/s/scrubja01d.htmlWhat I like is the rebounds, assists, steals and blocks. It's really about his 3 point shooting. Great athlete, came from a prep school not a major college, so he needed time to adjust. Last game the finally played the SF from Hungary and he did well minus the TOs. Wish we got to see him for 5 games.
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Post by philarhody on Jul 17, 2023 12:54:47 GMT -5
Every year the fan base gets excited about players with some modicum of summer league success and zero high end NBA traits. In years past that player was Jordan Mickey. Last year it was Kabengele. This year it is Jay Scrubb. None of these guys are worth thinking about as NBA players.
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Post by cdj on Jul 17, 2023 13:08:11 GMT -5
You’re throwing around the term “excited” quite liberally
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 17, 2023 14:03:12 GMT -5
You’re throwing around the term “excited” quite liberally In Boston some would have you believe if you're not down on the players all the time you're doing it all wrong. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 17, 2023 14:15:31 GMT -5
I'd say Scrubb absolutely has NBA high end traits, 6'6" SG with 6'10" wingspan and reported 40" vertical. His problem on a team like the Celtics is that what he does best, score isn't really needed. He needs to focus on D, team basketball, rebounding and hitting his open 3 point shots. If he does that he has a decent shot at maybe becoming a rotational player in time. Hardest thing in Basketball is star players in College learning to be role players in the NBA.
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Post by cdj on Jul 17, 2023 16:26:22 GMT -5
Spurs waiving Lamar Stevens. That’s a guy I wouldn’t mind picking up. He’s a consistent 3 pt shot away from becoming a valuable player. As is he’s a good defender.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 18, 2023 11:33:12 GMT -5
We are about 3.4 million from 2nd tax level, we have two non guaranteed contracts worth about 4.5 million, not fully guaranteed till 1/10/2024 and that 6 plus million trade exception.
Just my two cents, yet could they likely wait to see about a trade before making anymore moves?
Guys like Bey and Cole Anthony fit in that salary range and it will be interesting if those teams want to pay those players. Hawks are up against tax line and Magic have 18 PGs.
I like some of these guys, I just feel we need a bigger splash type player. Trades get much harder next year.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 18, 2023 11:47:17 GMT -5
Who is the 2nd non-guaranteed besides Champagnie?
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Post by bg23 on Jul 18, 2023 12:09:39 GMT -5
Who is the 2nd non-guaranteed besides Champagnie? Luke Kornet is non-guaranteed I believe, although there is nearly no chance they waive him. |
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Post by texs31 on Jul 18, 2023 12:12:38 GMT -5
Gah. There it is. Spotrac's notes have it but the table doesn't. Thanks!
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Post by texs31 on Jul 18, 2023 12:25:32 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 18, 2023 17:21:08 GMT -5
Well stratch that, Thanks Texas for pointing that out. If they want to use most of that trade exception and not go over next tax line, they should cut Champagnie and maybe give him a two way deal. That would give you till January 10th to work out a trade and give you around 5.5 million.
Then again, if they don't care, spend away.
Yeah Kornet might be unlikely to be cut now, that shouldn't be the case though. If you can't play playoff minutes and are a matchup big in regular season, your spot shouldn't be that secure. Especially when you aren't a young player with upside.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 19, 2023 11:22:26 GMT -5
Just saw a retweet from BRobb saying that Banton's deal is only guaranteed this year for 200K right now (jumps up to 1M if he makes it to Opening Night).
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 19, 2023 13:17:15 GMT -5
If money isn't an issue, I still kinda love Terance Davis. Physical shooter and with no Smart or Grant that's not a bad thing. Career corner 3 point percentage of 42.2%. He rebounds, gives you assists, steals and even some blocks. To reach his peak efficiency he likely needs to shoot less, cut the TOs and foul less. At the same time he's a player who would need to earn playoff minutes, back end of bench guy.
I hope they totally change the offense, until they do why not bring in a 3 and D combo guard? Unlike Smart he's actually a very good shooter.
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Post by jmei on Jul 25, 2023 10:08:17 GMT -5
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 25, 2023 10:52:26 GMT -5
I’m happy for him but is he going to learn to dribble with his left hand. I hope this gives him motivation to correct this. If it was me and it never would be me . I would work on this.
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Post by philarhody on Jul 25, 2023 11:21:09 GMT -5
I’m happy for him but is he going to learn to dribble with his left hand. I hope this gives him motivation to correct this. If it was me and it never would be me . I would work on this. Yeah, ball handling is not really a soft skill. Depending on hand size and arm length proportion, it’s very difficult to go from a bad ball handler to a good one. The best case for Jaylen is that he settles into an overpriced play finisher, which would reflect the Celtics bringing in Brogdon and White over the past couple seasons. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 25, 2023 11:43:34 GMT -5
Good stuff, Brown is an elite player. As a fan of any sport, there’s nothing better than having stability on being a title contender. Boston is a title contender as long as the trio of Tatum, Brown and The Porzingod are in town, and they should all be here for a while. Don’t overthink this bros, this is a good thing!
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Post by philarhody on Jul 25, 2023 14:11:39 GMT -5
It’s a very bad contract for a good player.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 25, 2023 14:24:52 GMT -5
It’s a very bad contract for a good player. That player leaves and you need to rebuild. This ain’t moneyball, you need to secure your core players. |
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Post by cdj on Jul 25, 2023 14:37:42 GMT -5
It’s a very standard contract for a very good player
You don’t make an All-NBA team by being merely “good” ftr. Plenty of good players in the league
You can argue max vs Supermax until you’re blue in the face but with the contracts being handed out it was clear he was getting the Supermax. This locks him up through his prime and if it doesn’t work out we can always move him out and change the mix. We know that the floor for these guys should be the ECF. Ceiling remains to be seen. I think they have enough talent to win it, will just depend on luck and mindset.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 25, 2023 15:08:41 GMT -5
I'm sorry, there's no way you're ECF floor for that whole contract given the new CBA. Next year you are over with a first round pick, bunch of open roster spots still. Only veteran minimum deals, no buyout guys over minimum. Real choice about paying Pritchard given tax amount. Only equal trades. Year two of that deal and you are in a world of hurt paying White, while paying or replacing Horford and Brogdon with massive tax implications.
Old system, it was easy and yeah your floor would be very high. New system means either our owner pays like crazy, like Warriors crazy for way less money or you have to become great at drafting guys to fill out depth. Something the Jays have had a ton of their entire careers. It's just not easy developing young talent while going for a championship.
You already got the first results from this extension, which was letting Grant Williams leave.
I just hope they locked it in at this year cap and not 35% of next years, that would be something.
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Post by jmei on Jul 25, 2023 15:11:13 GMT -5
We all just need to reset expectations. With the new TV deal coming in 2025 (just one year into Brown's new deal), $60M AAV deals are going to be the new normal for star-level players.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 25, 2023 15:32:29 GMT -5
New TV money is capped at 10% yearly increases in cap levels. There won't be some huge spike like Warriors got to sign KD. It will be gradual at max 10% per year, so there won't be some massive shift in contracts in one year.
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